'Deadly Conduct' warrrant issued for Deon Anderson

[CowboyMcCoy]

Considering that John Phillips was getting a significant portion of his reps toward the end of the year, I wouldn't invest in real estate in the Dallas/Ft Worth area if I were Cricket.

I don't think you're getting it. The charge, if I understand it correctly, is only a Class A misdemeanor and, at this point, also only an allegation. For all we know someone is trying to extort him, using the police as a tool to manipulate him into making some monetary settlement out of court. That's what's wrong with most citizens today, they hear something happened and there is no due process. That person is guilty.

I beg to differ. Cricket has the right to counsel and a fair trial. He can afford it and there is merely a warrant out for his arrest. No indictments, no felony charges as of yet.

You're jumping the gun... no pun intended.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Keith Davis was cut and brought back after being shot in the ***.

And after he came back he was shot again, but this time only grazed by a bullet. Yet Parcells and co. played down the issue and basically said Kieth is just unlucky... oh, and he needed to stop hanging out with thugs.

:laugh2:

I don't think it's the same as pulling a gun on some valet who thinks it's funny your car won't start.

Allegedly.

You're assuming on two accounts. Number one, that he actually pointed the gun at him. Remember, the valet had access to his car, thus its contents as well as the keys. Therefore the valet did in fact have the ability to tamper, not only with the car but also could have very well been pissed off about something and hid the gun in the bushes himself. You don't know this yet, because you can't possibly know this. Number two, you can't possibly know what the valet thought was funny. 'Tis merely hearsay.

I'm teaching class again next week at the same time and place, the school for fanatics, of course.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

So if Wade calls Jerry and says we are keeping Deon and Jerry and Stephen are in the thinking that this hurts the public perception of franchise and the best move is to cut ties with him you think Deon Anderson will still be on the team?

Public perception?

Seriously?

You do remember the likes of T.O., Mike Irvin, Eric Williams, Mark Tuinei? And many others have had run ins with the law. Normally, Jerry sticks by players if they're worth their salt, as he should.

 

[dcfanatic]

And after he came back he was shot again, but this time only grazed by a bullet. Yet Parcells and co. played down the issue and basically said Kieth is just unlucky... oh, and he needed to stop hanging out with thugs.


Allegedly.

You're assuming on two accounts. Number one, that he actually pointed the gun at him. Remember, the valet had access to his car, thus its contents as well as the keys. Therefore the valet did in fact have the ability to tamper, not only with the car but also could have very well been pissed off about something and hid the gun in the bushes himself. You don't know this yet, because you can't possibly know this. Number two, you can't possibly know what the valet thought was funny. 'Tis merely hearsay.

I'm teaching class again next week at the same time and place, the school for fanatics, of course.

The valet went into Deon Andersons car and removed the gun and put it in the bushes?

 

[dcfanatic]

Public perception?

Seriously?

You do remember the likes of T.O., Mike Irvin, Eric Williams, Mark Tuinei? And many others have had run ins with the law. Normally, Jerry sticks by players if they're worth their salt, as he should.

T.O. never had any run ins with the law teach.

Deon isn't in the same breath with those players or how much they help the team win games.

And you don't think the NFL will all over this situation?

Arenas. Burress.

These names are fresh in the minds.

Deon being suspended for conduct detrimental to the team isn't making anyone smile right now. Deon being suspended by sheriff Goodell isn't helping the Cowboys win any football games.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

The valet went into Deon Andersons car and removed the gun and put it in the bushes?

The valet had keys to his car, where the gun could have been. Perhaps an argument took place, the valet got irked and decided to frame him because he had a gun in his car.

Are you saying people never lie?

Judas Priest, if the media reports it then it must be true. Anyone with an ounce of intellect knows you're embarrassing yourself (with this kind of thinking you're "in").

:laugh2:

I repeat, embarrassing yourself.

 

[Beast_from_East]

It's getting worse and worse for Deon...

I just don't see how he survives this with his job.

The Arenas thing just dropped and the Plaxico thing is still a dark cloud on the NFL.

The last place Jerry wants to be is in the middle of some BS like this.

According to that highlighted part, Deon thought some guy was jacking around with his car so he pulled a gun on the guy and then threw the gun into some shrubs since that is where the police found the gun???

A round was chambered???



Sorry, but he has to go now. No way in hell I keep him on the team now, he pointed a loaded gun at somebody and that is just inexcusable. He could have freaking killed the guy!!!!! And what the hell is up with tossing a gun that is registered in your name into some shrubs??? Was he trying to ditch the weapon so the Police would not find it???

I have heard enough, cut this piece of **** loser tommorow Jerry.

 

[Hoofbite]

The valet had keys to his car, where the gun could have been. Perhaps an argument took place, the valet got irked and decided to frame him because he had a gun in his car.

Are you saying people never lie?

Judas Priest, if the media reports it then it must be true. Anyone with an ounce of intellect knows you're embarrassing yourself (with this kind of thinking you're "in").

:laugh2:

I repeat, I'm embarrassing myself.

FIFY.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

T.O. never had any run ins with the law teach.

O, but you were the one speaking of public perception. Can you not see where I'm going with that?

Deon isn't in the same breath with those players or how much they help the team win games.

So it depends on the caliber of the player? Again, no pun intended?

Let me ask you this. You're %100 sure he's guilty?

And you don't think the NFL will all over this situation?

The NFL will what all over this situation? I don't understand this incoherent drivel.

Arenas. Burress.

Completely different states, genius.

These names are fresh in the minds.

These players are from different states. You're not saying that someone in Texas is obligated to follow the state laws of New York are you? I know you're in New York, but I guess I thought you were smarter than most Yankees. Apparently, I thought wrong.

Deon being suspended for conduct detrimental to the team isn't making anyone smile right now. Deon being suspended by sheriff Goodell isn't helping the Cowboys win any football games.

Two words: due process. Look it up, sheriff.

You :cop:

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Gigy has merely made allegations. I guess jurisprudence is to complicated a topic to discuss on a football forum. The likes of Hoofbite and others have made up their minds. Deon is guilty, no if ands or buts.

Carry on. I was just pointing out there is no need to jump the gun. After all, I'm sure this valet is the most credible person alive. That's why he's a valet... right?

 

[Beast_from_East]

I don't think you're getting it. The charge, if I understand it correctly, is only a Class A misdemeanor and, at this point, also only an allegation. For all we know someone is trying to extort him, using the police as a tool to manipulate him into making some monetary settlement out of court. That's what's wrong with most citizens today, they hear something happened and there is no due process. That person is guilty.

I beg to differ. Cricket has the right to counsel and a fair trial. He can afford it and there is merely a warrant out for his arrest. No indictments, no felony charges as of yet.

You're jumping the gun... no pun intended.

Dude, the Police Officer on the affadavit said he found the gun in the bushes with a round chambered!!!!!

This is not some he said/ she said crap. The Police found a gun in the freaking bushes that is registered to Deon and had a round chambered. That alone is enough to cut his arse, as far as his legal preceedings go it is a different story and the Cowboys have nothing to do with that. He will get his day in court to defend himself, but that doesnt involve the Cowboys.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Dude, the Police Officer on the affadavit said he found the gun in the bushes with a round chambered!!!!!

Show me a cop who has never lied or made a mistake and I'll show you ocean front property in Arizona.

This is not some he said/ she said crap. The Police found a gun in the freaking bushes that is registered to Deon and had a round chambered. That alone is enough to cut his arse, as far as his legal preceedings go it is a different story and the Cowboys have nothing to do with that. He will get his day in court to defend himself, but that doesnt involve the Cowboys.

So if the valet had the keys and the gun was unloaded in the front, but the bullets were in the trunk and the valet had some inkling about Texas gun laws and was pissed at him, you can't see how that might make a difference?

These are allegations. Therefore, it is he said/she said crap.

The Cowboys won't cut him until they investigate that facts. You gotta give them that much as an organization. It's not illegal to carry a registered gun in your car in Texas.

And it only involves the Cowboys to the extent that the Cowboys want to be involved. Neither you nor I know that at this point. You're speculating. I'm just saying wait and see.

But you and DC fanatic can go on your parade claiming him to be guilty of the charge as well as kicking him off the team before we hear all of the facts.

Good Lord of the Rings it saddens me that people like y'all actually make up juries of 12 to decide these cases in reality. It's bad enough that you go around convicting him of the crime and kicking him off the team on a message board before you actually know anything other than what is alleged.

 

[CF74]

Not necessarily. Deadly conduct is a measly Class A misdemeanor in Texas. He may see some jail time, but nothing too substantial.

*edit. It can be a 3rd degree felony, but I don't think it is in this case.

If he didn't point or fire it at anyone, he should be OK. Texas isn't like New York in terms of gun laws.

Here is the Deadly Conduct code.

Sec. 22.05. Deadly Conduct
(a) A person commits an offense if he recklessly engages in conduct that places another in imminent danger of serious bodily injury.
(b) A person commits an offense if he knowingly discharges a firearm at or in the direction of:
(1) one or more individuals; or
(2) a habitation, building, or vehicle and is reckless as to whether the habitation, building, or vehicle is occupied.
(c) Recklessness and danger are presumed if the actor knowingly pointed a firearm at or in the direction of another whether or not the actor believed the firearm to be loaded.
(d) For purposes of this section, "building," "habitation," and "vehicle" have the meanings assigned those terms by Section 30.01.
(e) An offense under Subsection (a) is a Class A misdemeanor. An offense under Subsection (b) is a felony of the third degree.

Somebody pm peplaw..

Texas Penal Code - Section 9.04. Threats As Justifiable Force

9.04. THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE. The threat of
force is justified when the use of force is justified by this
chapter. For purposes of this section, a threat to cause death or
serious bodily injury by the production of a weapon or otherwise, as
long as the actor's purpose is limited to creating an apprehension
that he will use deadly force if necessary, does not constitute the
use of deadly force.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The valet had keys to his car, where the gun could have been. Perhaps an argument took place, the valet got irked and decided to frame him because he had a gun in his car.

Are you saying people never lie?

Judas Priest, if the media reports it then it must be true. Anyone with an ounce of intellect knows you're embarrassing yourself (with this kind of thinking you're "in").

:laugh2:

I repeat, embarrassing yourself.

Sorry, but I think DCFanatic has a good point. Trying to defend Deon with this "the valet broke into his car and planted the gun in the buses after chambering a round" is just making up crap.

I find it kinda strange that you are admonishing posters for jumping to conclusions about Deon, saying "we dont have all the facts yet", and then you turn right around and accuse the valet of not only breaking and entering Deon's vehicle, but stealing his gun, chambering a round, and planting it in the bushes for the Police to find.

You sure were quick to make up a whole bunch of charges against the valet while at the same time telling posters to not jump to conclusions about Deon. Why the double standard??? Why are you so quick to accuse the valet of breaking the law and yet admonish any posters who think Deon broke the law???

Why the double standard???

 

[CF74]

I don't think you're getting it. The charge, if I understand it correctly, is only a Class A misdemeanor and, at this point, also only an allegation. For all we know someone is trying to extort him, using the police as a tool to manipulate him into making some monetary settlement out of court. That's what's wrong with most citizens today, they hear something happened and there is no due process. That person is guilty.

I beg to differ. Cricket has the right to counsel and a fair trial. He can afford it and there is merely a warrant out for his arrest. No indictments, no felony charges as of yet.

You're jumping the gun... no pun intended.

I don't buy that. How did the valet guy know he had a gun? Did he recognize Cricket and then ransack his car? And why did Deon try to hide the gun?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Somebody pm peplaw..

Texas Penal Code - Section 9.04. Threats As Justifiable Force

9.04. THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE. The threat of
force is justified when the use of force is justified by this
chapter. For purposes of this section, a threat to cause death or
serious bodily injury by the production of a weapon or otherwise, as
long as the actor's purpose is limited to creating an apprehension
that he will use deadly force if necessary, does not constitute the
use of deadly force.

"Deadly Conduct". In some instances you may use a reasonable amount of force. For instance if you ask someone to leave your home and they won't then you may use a reasonable amount of force to "remove" them. However, I don't see how this statute is relevant. Respective to the allegations, there was no scenario involving a need to apply "threats as justifiable force". Based on the allegations, Cricket was charged properly.

But that doesn't mean he's guilty based off what some low-life valet claims.

 

[Nirvana]

Looks like a clean-cut guy to me.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Gigy has merely made allegations. I guess jurisprudence is to complicated a topic to discuss on a football forum. The likes of Hoofbite and others have made up their minds. Deon is guilty, no if ands or buts.

Carry on. I was just pointing out there is no need to jump the gun. After all, I'm sure this valet is the most credible person alive. That's why he's a valet... right?

Dude, your dribble is so contradicting it is embarrassing.

You say "there is no need to jump the gun" and then turn right around call into question the credibility of the valet. Not only have you called into question the credibility of the valet, you have also in this thread accused the valet of breaking and entering Deon's car, stealing his gun, chambering a round, and planting the gun in the bushes for the Police to find in some elaborate scheme to frame Deon. All of this was totally made up by you without one single shred of evidence, and yet you have the nerve to tell other posters to "not jump to conclusions".

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Sorry, but I think DCFanatic has a good point. Trying to defend Deon with this "the valet broke into his car and planted the gun in the buses after chambering a round" is just making up crap.

I find it kinda strange that you are admonishing posters for jumping to conclusions about Deon, saying "we dont have all the facts yet", and then you turn right around and accuse the valet of not only breaking and entering Deon's vehicle, but stealing his gun, chambering a round, and planting it in the bushes for the Police to find.

You sure were quick to make up a whole bunch of charges against the valet while at the same time telling posters to not jump to conclusions about Deon. Why the double standard??? Why are you so quick to accuse the valet of breaking the law and yet admonish any posters who think Deon broke the law???

Why the double standard???

Because it's possible. Therefore, it creates reasonable doubt. If it's just Deon's word against the valet, I hate to tell you but if he hires an attorney worth his salt, Deon will walk.

Again, the double standard creates reasonable doubt. The only thing the state has on Deon is a statement, which is generally enough to generate a warrant when it involves a gun.

Deon claims someone tampered with his car. Maybe he is an Eagle's fan and wanted to get revenge for the three sweep.

If you're going to be fair, you have to wait on the facts and you have to know he's guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. A reasonable human being ought to be able to consider the possibility that the valet may be lying for some reason, whether he's a bent out of shape fan, a money hungry valet with a crappy job or just pissed off at Deon for something he said.

The bottom line is he had Deon's keys and that creates reasonable doubt in my mind.

No one knows, from the state's affidavit, if Deon's gun was on him or in the car. If it was in the car, then it is a possibility that the valet made false claims and then hid the gun (for whatever reason).

My point is that is something the state should investigate (although it seems they're satisfied enough to generate a warrant) and that Deon's defense attorneys should point out.

At the same time, you're committing the same double standard as I. You don't believe the valet was tampering with Deon's car, do you? You only believe Deon pulled a gun on this poor puke.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Looks like a clean-cut guy to me.

YEAH!!! Give him the max!!!