Dear Wade Philips

[5Stars]

finally after 6,000+ posts I get a GOOD POST!!, man i was thinking it was hopeless you know, its such an honor, i think imma bookmark this page for memory

Actually, almost all of your posts are good...at least to me!

 

[dargonking999]

Im getting close to the devils mark i just realized that, i wonder if i just make a devilsh thread for it

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Or maybe fuzzy, the line just fell apart down the strech, cause i sure dont remember barber doing a whole heck of lot of damage after week 9 either.

Or maybe it was because the Romo -effect was in full motion

or maybe it was because our defense couldnt stop anyone for anything so we ended up running the ball maybe 4 times a game (saints come to mind)

Or Maybe its just that u look for every fact to say julius isnt a good back, and ignore the reasons why he is, and can be a better back this year.

So you really want to rehash these old arguments. He is an excellent back up to 15 carries. I have said this over and over again. Youre just mad because I dont think hes a every down back.

Barber had 85 carries for 390 yards in the second half. Thats 4.6 YPC a full yard more than Jones behind the same offensive line. This is despite having to run against goal line defenses consistently. This was also with the same offensive line that you are saying couldnt open holes for anyone.

A 3.6 YPC average which is what Jones had in the second half sucks if you 4 carries or 400. The lesser carries Jones had still sucked.

The Romo effect would have given RBs more room not less as they are paying attention to him.

Sorry Jones is the same back as he was last year as he was his rookie year. The stats are eerily similar and hes not suddenly going to change. He is what he is: an excellent change of pace type back.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No, it could not be any of that! Fig Newton knows it all...he's got it all figured out!

It cannot be a combination of things...it HAS to be Julius or nothing else, ******!

By the way, that was a good post dargonking999..!

Actually the simplest explanation is normally the right one. You coming up with these pie in the sky BS three part Julius was doomed scenarios are crap. Especially since this is what weve been getting for the last 3 years.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Most RB's dont get better after 15 carries, in fact most RB's YPC drop after 15 carries, unless they break a big one for a TD. So to say julius isnt good because he does wat almost every RB does, is just plain silly

eidt BTW i never said u were JJ hater, i was talking in General, and since you decided to take the role of a "hater" that therefore proves that you are one

the guilty always attempt to defend, even when they havent been accused

BS read the thread. I actually thought that too and that all baclks should have their carries limited. I did some research and the really good backs dont lose effectiveness. Stephen Jackson for example gets better after 15 carries. Sorry Jones just isnt elite. accept it.

hes an explosive change of pace back not a featured back.

Additionally seeing as im the most prominent player on the Jones is not god camp in this thread oyu might as well have pointed the finger at me. And me saying that proves nothing jsut like you repeating most of your drivel proves nothing.

 

[5Stars]

Actually the simplest explanation is normally the right one. You coming up with these pie in the sky BS three part Julius was doomed scenarios are crap. Especially since this is what weve been getting for the last 3 years.

Easy there, Chocolate Chip! Don't burn so hard that the next batch is no good...

A 1000 yard runner sucks...I know...

Carry on...Butter Cup!

:laugh2:

 

[dargonking999]

So you really want to rehash these old arguments. He is an excellent back up to 15 carries. I have said this over and over again. Youre just mad because I dont think hes a every down back.

Barber had 85 carries for 390 yards in the second half. Thats 4.6 YPC a full yard more than Jones behind the same offensive line. This is despite having to run against goal line defenses consistently. This was also with the same offensive line that you are saying couldnt open holes for anyone.

A 3.6 YPC average which is what Jones had in the second half sucks if you 4 carries or 400. The lesser carries Jones had still sucked.

The Romo effect would have given RBs more room not less as they are paying attention to him.

Sorry Jones is the same back as he was last year as he was his rookie year. The stats are eerily similar and hes not suddenly going to change. He is what he is: an excellent change of pace type back.

First, im not mad at what you think, i really dont care you arent the Hc.

Second i dont believe is a everydown back, i think he is wat he was at the beginning of the season, a 1st and 2nd down back.

Third When you have only 10 carries, and you break 1 or 2 of them for 10+ gains, your YPA will be high. Am i saying that barber is not a good back, no. But to say becuse his YPC are higher, and JJ's is lower it proves your right is once again silly.

Fourth, by the Romo effect i mean that instead of staying with a consistent running attack, and then passing, the coaching decided to come out throwing, throw, throw, throw, and then when all else fails, run the ball, then throw some more.

fifth, you once again missed another segement ofmy argument. When you playing from Behind, because your defense cant stop anyone, your not going to easily be able to run the ball well enough to even get a RB into a game, in order to even make plays. JJ made a career long run of 77 yards to start of the game, and because the defense starting faliling quick fast and in a hurry, the next thing you know its 42 -17

In conclusion you have the roles switch backwards, Barber is wat he is, a change of pace back, He has been one in highschool, college, and the NFL. JJ has always been the top runner, and has proven he has reason to be, when not befalled by a couple if injuries. If health was your concern then you would have merit, but its not. So therefore you dont.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Easy there, Chocolate Chip! Don't burn so hard that the next batch is no good...

A 1000 yard runner sucks...I know...

Carry on...Butter Cup!

:laugh2:

I only say he sucks in a certain role. Your just mad because i owned you in that last thread. Still stinging because you dont know wha a contractor does, grocery boy?

 

[dargonking999]

BS read the thread. I actually thought that too and that all baclks should have their carries limited. I did some research and the really good backs dont lose effectiveness. Stephen Jackson for example gets better after 15 carries. Sorry Jones just isnt elite. accept it.

hes an explosive change of pace back not a featured back.

Additionally seeing as im the most prominent player on the Jones is not god camp in this thread oyu might as well have pointed the finger at me. And me saying that proves nothing jsut like you repeating most of your drivel proves nothing.

speaking of the fact that was my first post inside of this thread, and i have yet to particpate in any of the discussions about JJ shows your further failure in actaully paying attention to facts. And showing your obvious inablity to read, i said "Most" backs dont get better after 15 carries.

You bring up STephen Jackson and im glad you did, Stephen is a better runner than Julius plain and simple. he also was in a system that was dedicted to the run the entire season like the 49ers and the Chargers, unlike our team that left the run mid-way through the season though JJ was having a career season

Seocnd point, i never once agruged that JJ is a elite back, no where in post have i said that. I have argued that JJ is a good back who has the potential to be great, if he can be the back he was in 2004, where he was carrying the ball 30+ times ripping off 150 yard games a pop.

And What you call drivel some call logic, but i guess lumpkins isnt the only thing fuzzy with you?

 

[dargonking999]

Actually the simplest explanation is normally the right one. You coming up with these pie in the sky BS three part Julius was doomed scenarios are crap. Especially since this is what weve been getting for the last 3 years.

Actaully wat you've been getting the first 2 years, is , if he can stay healthy, and get a good OL. Since his thrid he only got one of those (healthy) all year and the other only half the year, and showed wat he can do. I stand by the fact he is a good back

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

First, im not mad at what you think, i really dont care you arent the Hc.

Second i dont believe is a everydown back, i think he is wat he was at the beginning of the season, a 1st and 2nd down back.

Third When you have only 10 carries, and you break 1 or 2 of them for 10+ gains, your YPA will be high. Am i saying that barber is not a good back, no. But to say becuse his YPC are higher, and JJ's is lower it proves your right is once again silly.

Fourth, by the Romo effect i mean that instead of staying with a consistent running attack, and then passing, the coaching decided to come out throwing, throw, throw, throw, and then when all else fails, run the ball, then throw some more.

fifth, you once again missed another segement ofmy argument. When you playing from Behind, because your defense cant stop anyone, your not going to easily be able to run the ball well enough to even get a RB into a game, in order to even make plays. JJ made a career long run of 77 yards to start of the game, and because the defense starting faliling quick fast and in a hurry, the next thing you know its 42 -17

In conclusion you have the roles switch backwards, Barber is wat he is, a change of pace back, He has been one in highschool, college, and the NFL. JJ has always been the top runner, and has proven he has reason to be, when not befalled by a couple if injuries. If health was your concern then you would have merit, but its not. So therefore you dont.

My stats are wholistic i am talking about 100 carries not two your he could break a big one argument doesnt hold water because my stats include ALL OF THEM.

Also when you are playing from behind you wont rn as much but you will have an easier time when you do run because teams pass when losing and defenses defend for that. Sorry his YPC sucked it doesnt matter how much you run it if that is the case.

Actually health is my primary reason. Hes gotten hurt or worn down every season as the primary runner. He is not durable.

 

[superpunk]

Parcells ruined my sense of style.

I know wat u mean, Mr Martin. It's really a mircale that I can even stand up straight due to Parcells ruination, much less be second in the league in TDs.

lol....im demarkus ware!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actaully wat you've been getting the first 2 years, is , if he can stay healthy, and get a good OL. Since his thrid he only got one of those (healthy) all year and the other only half the year, and showed wat he can do. I stand by the fact he is a good back

if ifs and buts were candy and nuts. He hasnt stayed healthy AND palyed healthy once since coming into the league. What on Earth makes you think all of a sudden he going to do it with MORE carries next year?

And Barber smoked Jones' stats witht ath same Oline in the second half. A full friggin yard. The same oline tha was playing when Jones was kicking butt in the first half I might add. Oline stayed the same as did the coaching yet it was they that were the cause.....

You realize how utterly unscientific that is?

 

[5Stars]

I only say he sucks in a certain role. Your just mad because i owned you in that last thread. Still stinging because you dont know wha a contractor does, grocery boy?

Hey, that reminds me...does this "contractor" have a "contract" inside the NFL?

If not, he is not in the NFL...as of now.

:laugh2: Check the oven...I think your batch of cookies are REALLY starting to burn now!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Parcells ruined my sense of style.

I did it like this
I did it like that
I did it with a whiffle ball bat sooo
Im on the run
the cops got my gun
and right about now its time to have some fun

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hey, that reminds me...does this "contractor" have a "contract" inside the NFL?

If not, he is not in the NFL...as of now.

:laugh2: Check the oven...I think your batch of cookies are REALLY starting to burn now!

Like I said before that is not how contracting works because most contractors would be 'out of the business' all the time and that would be stupid.

I ran an HVAC company for two years. I know contracting. You know nothing.

 

[5Stars]

What on Earth makes you think...

Hey, speaking of Earth, did you ever figure out how the earth went from flat to round? ROUND, like a cookie?


:laugh1:

 

[dargonking999]

My stats are wholistic i am talking about 100 carries not two your he could break a big one argument doesnt hold water because my stats include ALL OF THEM.

Also when you are playing from behind you wont rn as much but you will have an easier time when you do run because teams pass when losing and defenses defend for that. Sorry his YPC sucked it doesnt matter how much you run it if that is the case.

Actually health is my primary reason. Hes gotten hurt or worn down every season as the primary runner. He is not durable.

THats exactly my point your stats include ALL OF THEM, including the big runs barber makes. you just made my point. Barber has 100 cairres over 10 games, and breaks about a 10-20 yards 2 or 3 times a game and bam, you have a big YPC. But once again, it means nothing. Barber is wat he is a change of pace back, comparing him to JJ is useless and pointless, because they have different roles, do differnt things and come in at differnt times.

The problem with your second point, is the coaching staff still has to RUN the ball, for him to have these big lanes, the whole issue was the coaching staff not RUNNING the ball.

third point health cannot be your reason, if the he was able to carry 25+ times for almost 8 straight weeks, and still performing strong at the end of the season (149 against the giants) and when given the ball 20+ times to start the season he had 6 straight 100 yard games. Then BP said i'll stop running the ball, and wat do you know, his yards go down. then he gives him the ball again in the playoff game, and wat do u now 100 yards again. THere has yet to be a season where he gets worn down. either he gets the balll or not. He gets the ball its 100+, he doesnt, its not

 

[5Stars]

I ran an HVAC company for two years. I know contracting. You know nothing.

Is that a Cookie business?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hey, speaking of Earth, did you ever figure out how the earth went from flat to round? ROUND, like a cookie?


:laugh1:

I realize that you think youre getting somewhere in this stupid line of drivel of yours but believe me there is a reason that noone other than the braintrust that is GimmeeTheBall has agreed with you or chimed in. Its becuase its stupid and go ahead and look like a fool if you want.

i got several PMs from people saying thanks for the intellectual conversation that you are trying to deride. These same people are going to think youre a moron for this as it looks like you are intimidated by the educated. But go on with your bad self if you want.