Dear Wade Philips

[superpunk]

everyone loves paul revere...

i was able to dig up some of Parcells greatest hits from a year ago, talking about Julius and his blockers. With my cursory knowledge of the innernets, it took about 15 minutes.

I need a nap.

Safe to say a little ucnertain about what you had in Julius til he came back last year? This year? Well, no I think hes a good kid, works hard, trains hard. I think hes a good running back. Part of it is durability. Second critical facotr for RB... besides vision and instinct. Not saying hes not durable. I'm a little concerned. Next Sunday will be 11 and a half games hes missed. Gotta be concerned. K he broke his shoulder, oh thats bad luck. Ankle? Oh thats bad luck. We'll get over this, not going to push it and have recurrence, be out rest of the year. Barber did good job yesterday.

I thought this was an excellent example of Parcells outlining just how he was going to stifle Julius' instincts.

Eliminating negative runs, how do you accomplish that?
They are a very strong deterant to moving the ball consistently. If you’re adding runs to loss with sacks and continually have them, the chances of being successful are minimized. I think there are 2 or 3 ways to reduce them. School your backs on knowing when the journey is over, so to speak. And not turning a bad run into a really bad run. Julius has improved on that. Your play selection can help you a little bit there. Quick hitting stuff, if you have physical ability inside. And playing to get the 3rd down yardage to get a more workable conversion rate.

What has Julius Jones shown you this year vs. last year?

His preparation is different. Much stronger this year. Much more knowledge about the peripheral things about being a running back in the NFL. You’re one of two players that has a bullseye on your chest every Sunday. You’ll have to deal with not being successful on a temporary basis, because there will be tough sledding there sometimes. You have to say I’m not going to give up yards, and I have to know how to change my running style according to where I’m at on the field. Okay, I’m in the secondary, what are the principles that I need to look out for? I teach all my backs the same things. We had a guy here named Lewis Tillman, we were playing some game against the Vikes and at the end of the game we were running the game down and he fumbled on 9 yard line. I got on him on the sideline and he reminded me that I hadn’t let him carry the ball in 3 weeks. Now, Marion fumbled on the goalline this morning so we had a little discussion about that.

I caught him talking about how he was planning on ruining Marion Barber, at the end there.

Have you seen a chemistry between Julius and the OL? Is that important?

More than knowing the players on the offensive line, A RB has to know the plays to know what guys he’s looking at. You’ll hear me say to Julius “Did you see your guard? Did you see your Fullback?” To remind him what he should be looking at as the play unfolds and exercise patience. Also, you got to teach a kid to know what he sees. He’ll see the guard, but did he know what it means? Good RB’s feel the guy in front of them and know where they are going. One time Curtis made a long TD run on a play on a great run. It looked like the play would work again in the game. So we called it again, and we blocked it perfectly. And Curtis absolutely got smacked in the mouth. Ran right into a guy. Maybe the hardest I’ve ever seen him hit. I asked him “What are you doing? “ He said “ I never saw him” . I asked him “What do you mean you didn’t see him? He smacked you right in the mouth?” He said “I was looking down the field.” That’s what happens with the good ones. They can see the camera crews. Julius knows the play better, and knows how to run better. He got tackled in the backfield by Roy 2 days ago. I told him, “Don’t lose 4 yards on the play. You turned a 1 yard loss into a 4 yard loss.” I’m getting him into the mentality that there are good 1 and 2 yard runs. He’s getting that. RB’s have to understand that. There are times when its going to be tough sledding for a while, and not everything is going to open up the way you want to it. You need to have the mentality that getting a yard or two can be a victory … just don’t lose 4.

Avoiding negative yardage. Diabolical, indeed!

lol...im lawrence tailur!

 

[dargonking999]

if ifs and buts were candy and nuts. He hasnt stayed healthy AND palyed healthy once since coming into the league. What on Earth makes you think all of a sudden he going to do it with MORE carries next year?

And Barber smoked Jones' stats witht ath same Oline in the second half. A full friggin yard. The same oline tha was playing when Jones was kicking butt in the first half I might add. Oline stayed the same as did the coaching yet it was they that were the cause.....

You realize how utterly unscientific that is?

Oh so this last year he was hurt, im sory i missed that notice.

once again barber smoked JJ by a whole yard, getting 5-15 less carries a game. Whoop de- freaking do. That means wat? JJ sucks? Please like i said comparing the two is silly since 1) they dont play on the same downs 2) they dont even have the same roles. the O-line and coaching having nothing to do with JJ running the ball when he's in the game, and barber running the ball when he's in the game. Once again you completly miss the point and ignore the things you have no argument against.

Do you know utterly unscientific you are?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

THats exactly my point your stats include ALL OF THEM, including the big runs barber makes. you just made my point. Barber has 100 cairres over 10 games, and breaks about a 10-20 yards 2 or 3 times a game and bam, you have a big YPC. But once again, it means nothing. Barber is wat he is a change of pace back, comparing him to JJ is useless and pointless, because they have different roles, do differnt things and come in at differnt times.

The problem with your second point, is the coaching staff still has to RUN the ball, for him to have these big lanes, the whole issue was the coaching staff not RUNNING the ball.

third point health cannot be your reason, if the he was able to carry 25+ times for almost 8 straight weeks, and still performing strong at the end of the season (149 against the giants) and when given the ball 20+ times to start the season he had 6 straight 100 yard games. Then BP said i'll stop running the ball, and wat do you know, his yards go down. then he gives him the ball again in the playoff game, and wat do u now 100 yards again. THere has yet to be a season where he gets worn down. either he gets the balll or not. He gets the ball its 100+, he doesnt, its not

You cannot cherry pick statss like that. You dont just get rid of someones good runs because your guy didnt make any. Its only a point in your own mind. Were taliking 90 carries not two or three.

Jones still ran more than Barber in the second half so its not as if he didnt get a chance. And the whole he needs theball more argument is stupid im not going to repeat th e thread again. If you want to go on believing that when the stats show it not to be true then fine I dont care.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oh so this last year he was hurt, im sory i missed that notice.

once again barber smoked JJ by a whole yard, getting 5-15 less carries a game. Whoop de- freaking do. That means wat? JJ sucks? Please like i said comparing the two is silly since 1) they dont play on the same downs 2) they dont even have the same roles. the O-line and coaching having nothing to do with JJ running the ball when he's in the game, and barber running the ball when he's in the game. Once again you completly miss the point and ignore the things you have no argument against.

Do you know utterly unscientific you are?

no my point is that hes always hurt or worn down in the second half.

And being unscientific would be small sample size.

BARBERS FIGURES ARE FOR 90 CARRIES, NOT A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE REPEATING THAT IT IS DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.

 

[5Stars]

I realize that you think youre getting somewhere in this stupid line of drivel of yours but believe me there is a reason that noone other than the braintrust that is GimmeeTheBall has agreed with you or chimed in. Its becuase its stupid and go ahead and look like a fool if you want.

i got several PMs from people saying thanks for the intellectual conversation that you are trying to deride. These same people are going to think youre a moron for this as it looks like you are intimidated by the educated. But go on with your bad self if you want.

Let's see here...you are a 30 year old kid that is;

A Philosopher

An Attorney

A Statistician

A Contractor

A Cookie maker

An NFL talent evaluator

A Doctor (know all about the athlete body)

People PM you because of how BRIGHT you are...


Damn, you got it all...good job!

Do you have whiskers yet?

:laugh2:

 

[dargonking999]

You cannot cherry pick statss like that. You dont just get rid of someones good runs because your guy didnt make any. Its only a point in your own mind. Were taliking 90 carries not two or three.

Jones still ran more than Barber in the second half so its not as if he didnt get a chance. And the whole he needs theball more argument is stupid im not going to repeat th e thread again. If you want to go on believing that when the stats show it not to be true then fine I dont care.

Im cherry picking anything, nor dimininsg his run. I merly stating that fact that when you get 10 carries, the one or two good runs you make makes your YPC look much better, than a starting RB who totes the ball 5-15 more times than you.

Jones may have run more than barber, but that doesnt equate to him getting the ball more in the second half. if jj gets the ball 5 times, and barber 3, does that mean JJ had a "chance" i guess by your logic one carry is a chance huh

If you want to go on an take one or two stats, and twist them into your beliefs then be my guest, but i have a chemistry class to go to. Maybe i get something more scentfic than this garble you keep trying to force feed me

 

[5Stars]

but i have a chemistry class to go to. Maybe i get something more scentfic than this garble you keep trying to force feed me

Have him help you with your chemistry class...I'm sure he knows everything about that...!


:laugh2:

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Let's see here...you are a 30 year old kid that is;

A Philosopher

An Attorney

A Statistician

A Contractor

A Cookie maker

An NFL talent evaluator

A Doctor (know all about the athlete body)

People PM you because of how BRIGHT you are...


Damn, you got it all...good job!

Do you have whiskers yet?

:laugh2:

Actually Im a mechanical engineer although you are close on the age. Im sorry that I am well read and well educated so you hide your intimidation behind this garbage. I constantly read to keep myself up on things. YOu want to belittle that you go ahead, like I said it just shows who and what YOU are.

And one thing is very clear: Im brighter than you and you dont like it.

 

[superpunk]

Parcells tried to get me to cut down on my INTs.

You know what I said?

"**** you, Parcells!"

And now I can't get in the halls of fame, lolerz.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Im cherry picking anything, nor dimininsg his run. I merly stating that fact that when you get 10 carries, the one or two good runs you make makes your YPC look much better, than a starting RB who totes the ball 5-15 more times than you.

Jones may have run more than barber, but that doesnt equate to him getting the ball more in the second half. if jj gets the ball 5 times, and barber 3, does that mean JJ had a "chance" i guess by your logic one carry is a chance huh

If you want to go on an take one or two stats, and twist them into your beliefs then be my guest, but i have a chemistry class to go to. Maybe i get something more scentfic than this garble you keep trying to force feed me

and again im not quoting on 10 carries im quoting on 90.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Parcells tried to get me to cut down on my INTs.

You know what I said?

"**** you, Parcells!"

And now I can't get in the halls of fame, lolerz.

 

[zrinkill]

Parcells tried to get me to cut down on my INTs.

You know what I said?

"**** you, Parcells!"

And now I can't get in the halls of fame, lolerz.

That is funny right there.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Parcells tried to get me to cut down on my INTs.

You know what I said?

"**** you, Parcells!"

And now I can't get in the halls of fame, lolerz.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Have him help you with your chemistry class...I'm sure he knows everything about that...!


:laugh2:

in college i did make $17/hour tutoring chem, physics and calculus. I also used to write papers on anything for $20/page. So what?

Look at it this way. I was making more money then than you are now. So have a cookie and enjoy yourself.

 

[superpunk]

I'm sensing a thread lock coming, which would really be a shame, because I am still waiting for all this proof that Parcells admitted to instructing Julius to become a robot, or whatever the idea was.

I've supplied plenty of quotes to the contrary.

By all means, enlighten me.

Locked would be a pity.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm sensing a thread lock coming, which would really be a shame, because I am still waiting for all this proof that Parcells admitted to instructing Julius to become a robot, or whatever the idea was.

I've supplied plenty of quotes to the contrary.

By all means, enlighten me.

Locked would be a pity.

I like how you brought up Parcells saying that Julius needed to stop leaving yards on the field, I tried to tell people that a long time ago

 

[dargonking999]

I'm sensing a thread lock coming, which would really be a shame, because I am still waiting for all this proof that Parcells admitted to instructing Julius to become a robot, or whatever the idea was.

I've supplied plenty of quotes to the contrary.

By all means, enlighten me.

Locked would be a pity.

i dont think it was him telling him to be a robot, but more over i think Julius was just concerned more about not getting caught in the backfield. I think it was not nesserly all BP's fault, but not all JJ's fault. I think it lies somewhere in between. the comminucation between him and JJ just faultered, JJ was thinking BP was saying one thing, and maybe BP didnt mean it that way, who really knows

 

[WoodysGirl]

everyone loves paul revere...

i was able to dig up some of Parcells greatest hits from a year ago, talking about Julius and his blockers. With my cursory knowledge of the innernets, it took about 15 minutes.

I need a nap.



I thought this was an excellent example of Parcells outlining just how he was going to stifle Julius' instincts.





I caught him talking about how he was planning on ruining Marion Barber, at the end there.



Avoiding negative yardage. Diabolical, indeed!

lol...im lawrence tailur!

Really good find SP. Another one from one of his PCs was this one:

Parcells PC 9/20
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1045223&postcount=30
I would like MB3 to be in on the majority of 3rd downs, I want to give him seven other carries a game other than 3rd down. That was the plan in preseason, it doesn't always work in the regular season, I want to give him 8 or 9 carries a game. I would like to get TT in the mix. I think I've learned this over the years, going back to Joe Morris. Everyone is doing it now. A lot of theses runners are not big backs. Curtis Matrtin wasn't big but didn't get hit hard, he avoided square hits. I'm trying to get Julius to not leave the hole too soon, stay with it. In practice when MB3 and TT dance around, Julius is there and I tell him don't do it.

There are lots of quotes and info about Julius and what Parcells was trying to teach and what his expectations of Julius were.

But at this point, I'm not so concerned at Parcells did as to what Wade & Co will be able to do. Not all that interested in looking backwards. We're in a new era now.

 

[zrinkill]

But at this point, I'm not so concerned at Parcells did as to what Wade & Co will be able to do. Not all that interested in looking backwards. We're in a new era now.