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[Cowboyny]

When I watched his game footage, he looked better than I expect as a pass rusher; However, he was not as strong vs double teams on run plays as I expected.

I think it's possible that Benton will be a better overall player. Can likely play both 3tech and 1tech.

I think that is the consensus here that Benton is the best one to target. He looked real good at the senior bowl practices. Believe he is a sure fire, day 2 prospect.

 

[speedkilz88]

When I watched his game footage, he looked better than I expect as a pass rusher; However, he was not as strong vs double teams on run plays as I expected.

I think it's possible that Benton will be a better overall player. Can likely play both 3tech and 1tech.

Did you look at Kancey?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

That the thing. If they don’t get a top DT in the draft…meaning someone slid to 26 that shouldn’t have, they are going to have to go with the same strategy that hasn’t worked.

To be fair, there are about 4-5 options in rounds 2-7 that are very good choices. Ika, Benton, Clark from Coastal Carolina, and Broderic Martin. I'm also intrigued to learn more about Coburn.

 

[This is Our Year]

I’d love Robinson. He must be looking for decent money tho bc he left the Giants wo a contract this week.

 

[Mitch]

I really like Poona Ford. Only 27 years old, had a down year because of a system change and can get behind the line of scrimmage as well.

 

[fivetwos]

To be fair, there are about 4-5 options in rounds 2-7 that are very good choices. Ika, Benton, Clark from Coastal Carolina, and Broderic Martin. I'm also intrigued to learn more about Coburn.

Yep, but it’s still the same unreliable method of expecting mid round picks to contribute immediately.

It’s not to say that any DT they take in that range will bust, and not every vet FA pans out, but if you’re looking for immediate help, the mid round of the draft isn’t the place to find it….typically. They’d be relying on hope yet again.

I speak on it because it has failed them many times in the past, and it appears they are sticking with that same approach.

 

[Mr_437]

To be fair, there are about 4-5 options in rounds 2-7 that are very good choices. Ika, Benton, Clark from Coastal Carolina, and Broderic Martin. I'm also intrigued to learn more about Coburn.

Any of them have 34 arm length?
That's the one DQ would select.

 

[xwalker]

Did you look at Kancey?

Yes, I have several thoughts about Kancey.

1. I wouldn't want to be the one making the final decision in the draft. It's hard.
2. Kancey would be fun to watch as a pass rusher but run defense is a huge question.
3. How much better would he be as a pass rusher than using DEs at DT?
4. Aaron Donald is freakishly powerful for his size. I don't think that will be true for Kancey.
5. The Rams moved to a 3-4 in Donald's 4th year with AD at DE.
5B. I think the Rams wanted to limit AD from being worn down by double-teams as DT on run downs.
5C. I don't think the Cowboys are going to play a 3-4.
6. In terms of need, the #1 need that I saw in 2022 was more power at DT (both 3tech and 1tech).

I'l defer to @AsthmaField because he was adamant that Aaron Donald would be a star back before that draft.

 

[xwalker]

Any of them have 34 arm length?
That's the one DQ would select.

Yep, Gallimore was the only one below that was on the roster before Quinn arrived...

PLAYER​	HGT​	WGT​	ARM​	HAND​
Osa Odighizuwa​	6015​	282​	34-1/8​	10-3/8​
Quinton Bohanna​	6040​	327​	34-1/8​	10-7/8​
Chauncey Golston​	6046​	269​	34-3/4​	10-7/8​
Neville Gallimore​	6020​	304​	32-3/4​	9-5/8​
​	​	​	​	​
Johnathan Hankins​	6027​	320​	33​	9-1/2​
Carlos Watkins​	6031​	309​	34-5/8​	10-3/8​

 

[Mr_437]

I really like Poona Ford. Only 27 years old, had a down year because of a system change and can get behind the line of scrimmage as well.

Good post. I wasn't aware of Poona's game. Poona looks like a replacement for Carlos Watkins as the 1T-3T either or guy. Ford was effective as a 3T vs the run, so that should be attractive for DQ.

AL Woods stole the tape for me, he is the reason Poona was playing 3T because this guy is a monster run stopper. Get Woods and Ford to Dallas asap then Bobby might want to come too at a cheaper price lol.

 

[Mr_437]

Yep, Gallimore was the only one below that was on the roster before Quinn arrived...

PLAYER​	HGT​	WGT​	ARM​	HAND​
Osa Odighizuwa​	6015​	282​	34-1/8​	10-3/8​
Quinton Bohanna​	6040​	327​	34-1/8​	10-7/8​
Chauncey Golston​	6046​	269​	34-3/4​	10-7/8​
Neville Gallimore​	6020​	304​	32-3/4​	9-5/8​
​	​	​	​	​
Johnathan Hankins​	6027​	320​	33​	9-1/2​
Carlos Watkins​	6031​	309​	34-5/8​	10-3/8​

This is why you're The Man!

 

[xwalker]

I think that is the consensus here that Benton is the best one to target. He looked real good at the senior bowl practices. Believe he is a sure fire, day 2 prospect.

Of the likely Day 2 DTs, Benton and Mazi are very close to Dan Quinn's preferred 34" arm length and 10" hand size:

PLAYER​	HGT​	WGT​	ARM​	HAND​
Jalen Carter​	6030​	314​	33 1/2​	10 1/4​
​	​	​	​	​
Calijah Kancey​	6010​	281​	30 5/8​	9 1/8​
Adetomiwa Adebawore​	6015​	282​	33 7/8​	10 1/2​
Bryan Bresee​	6054​	298​	32 1/2​	10 1/4​
​	​	​	​	​
Keeanu Benton​	6036​	309​	33 7/8​	9 3/4​
Gervon Dexter​	6055​	310​	32 1/4​	9 1/2​
Mazi Smith​	6030​	323​	33 3/4​	9 3/4​
Siaki Ika​	6027​	335​	32 3/8​	10 1/4 ​

PLAYER​	HGT​	WGT​	ARM​	HAND​
Osa Odighizuwa​	6015​	282​	34-1/8​	10-3/8​
Quinton Bohanna​	6040​	327​	34-1/8​	10-7/8​
Chauncey Golston​	6046​	269​	34-3/4​	10-7/8​
Neville Gallimore​	6020​	304​	32-3/4​	9-5/8​
​	​	​	​	​
Johnathan Hankins​	6027​	320​	33​	9-1/2​
Carlos Watkins​	6031​	309​	34-5/8​	10-3/8​

 

[Cowboyny]

Of the likely Day 2 DTs, Benton and Mazi are very close to Dan Quinn's preferred 34" arm length and 10" hand size:

PLAYER​	HGT​	WGT​	ARM​	HAND​
Jalen Carter​	6030​	314​	33 1/2​	10 1/4​
​	​	​	​	​
Calijah Kancey​	6010​	281​	30 5/8​	9 1/8​
Adetomiwa Adebawore​	6015​	282​	33 7/8​	10 1/2​
Bryan Bresee​	6054​	298​	32 1/2​	10 1/4​
​	​	​	​	​
Keeanu Benton​	6036​	309​	33 7/8​	9 3/4​
Gervon Dexter​	6055​	310​	32 1/4​	9 1/2​
Mazi Smith​	6030​	323​	33 3/4​	9 3/4​
Siaki Ika​	6027​	335​	32 3/8​	10 1/4 ​

PLAYER​	HGT​	WGT​	ARM​	HAND​
Osa Odighizuwa​	6015​	282​	34-1/8​	10-3/8​
Quinton Bohanna​	6040​	327​	34-1/8​	10-7/8​
Chauncey Golston​	6046​	269​	34-3/4​	10-7/8​
Neville Gallimore​	6020​	304​	32-3/4​	9-5/8​
​	​	​	​	​
Johnathan Hankins​	6027​	320​	33​	9-1/2​
Carlos Watkins​	6031​	309​	34-5/8​	10-3/8​

First, if somehow Jalen Carter slides past the Eagles at 10 (highly unlikely), we have to go get him, even if it means giving up a future 1. Realistically, 1 of Benton, Mazi, Ika should be available at 58, if they chose to go that route. Probably looking at Hankins resigning at some point and adding another John Ridgeway type of day 3 again.

 

[Sydla]

I continue to be flummoxed with what the Cowboys are doing at DT.

It's almost like they think the league is going to outlaw DTs in the next owner's meeting.

They looked at WR and saw they only had Gallup and Lamb and needed a 3rd. So they went and got Cooks.

They looked at CB and saw with Brown a FA, they needed another outside CB so they went and got Gilmore.

Apparently they look at Bohanna, Odi and Gallimore and have concluded, yeah, that's solid. LOL.

 

[xwalker]

I really like Poona Ford. Only 27 years old, had a down year because of a system change and can get behind the line of scrimmage as well.

Good post. I wasn't aware of Poona's game. Poona looks like a replacement for Carlos Watkins as the 1T-3T either or guy. Ford was effective as a 3T vs the run, so that should be attractive for DQ.

AL Woods stole the tape for me, he is the reason Poona was playing 3T because this guy is a monster run stopper. Get Woods and Ford to Dallas asap then Bobby might want to come too at a cheaper price lol.

Ford has a good wingspan despite being only 5'11-5/8" tall.

Almost the same wingspan as Gervon Dexter despite a 6 inch height difference.

​	Ford​	Kancey​	Dexter​
Height​	5115​	6010​	6055​
Weight​	306​	281​	310​
Hand​	09 1/4​	09 1/8​	09 1/2​
Arm​	32 3/4​	30 5/8​	32 1/4​
Wingspan​	80 1/4​	72 3/4​	80 7/8​

 

[xwalker]

First, if somehow Jalen Carter slides past the Eagles at 10 (highly unlikely), we have to go get him, even if it means giving up a future 1. Realistically, 1 of Benton, Mazi, Ika should be available at 58, if they chose to go that route. Probably looking at Hankins resigning at some point and adding another John Ridgeway type of day 3 again.

If Carter drops out of the top 10, then teams have likely found more negative info about his character than has been reported.

 

[AsthmaField]

Yes, I have several thoughts about Kancey.

1. I wouldn't want to be the one making the final decision in the draft. It's hard.
2. Kancey would be fun to watch as a pass rusher but run defense is a huge question.
3. How much better would he be as a pass rusher than using DEs at DT?
4. Aaron Donald is freakishly powerful for his size. I don't think that will be true for Kancey.
5. The Rams moved to a 3-4 in Donald's 4th year with AD at DE.
5B. I think the Rams wanted to limit AD from being worn down by double-teams as DT on run downs.
5C. I don't think the Cowboys are going to play a 3-4.
6. In terms of need, the #1 need that I saw in 2022 was more power at DT (both 3tech and 1tech).

I'l defer to @AsthmaField because he was adamant that Aaron Donald would be a star back before that draft.

I don’t see Kancey as anything close to Aaron Donald, unfortunately. With Donald, I was dead certain that he was going to be a great player… to the point where I was calling for a trade up of about 5 or so spots, which would’ve done it.

With Kancey though, I don’t see nearly the same kind of player, despite their similar size, their similar 40 time, and them both playing at Pitt.

I feel like Kancey might be able to get an inside rush on certain passing downs but he’s not a guy that you’d want to play in any kind of full-time capacity.

I mean, I wouldn’t mind having Kancey as part of Quinn’s 3T rotation against passing formations, but I just don’t see that as worth a first round pick. As a later pick? Maybe, yeah. But I just don’t see a dominant player in Kancey or one that I think will have abundant success as a pass rusher in the NFL.

I mean, if you want a smaller 3T to pass rush, then we have that already in Odighizuwa and Golston, who was really starting to play well by the end of the season.

I’ve certainly been wrong before though, so take it for what it’s worth.

 

[Cowboyny]

If Carter drops out of the top 10, then teams have likely found more negative info about his character than has been reported.

There is definitely risk, but huge reward.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Any of them have 34 arm length?
That's the one DQ would select.

I don't know. I'll probably do a bit more digging on that.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Yep, but it’s still the same unreliable method of expecting mid round picks to contribute immediately.

It’s not to say that any DT they take in that range will bust, and not every vet FA pans out, but if you’re looking for immediate help, the mid round of the draft isn’t the place to find it….typically. They’d be relying on hope yet again.

I speak on it because it has failed them many times in the past, and it appears they are sticking with that same approach.

Fur sure, and the FO needs to sign a FA NT as well. That way, we are not expecting a rookie to jump in straight away.