News: DeMarcus Lawrence Appeal

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Yet getting tested multiple times for PEDs though on the other hand, especially when your DL is potentially a disaster, is not burning the bridge..

If you don't think the NFL is black-balling Hardy by now...

I think (believe) he was coming late to practice and hungover or drugged. Garrett got tired of his act and
I think believed he was having a bad influence on the other DL. Hardy may be thru in the NFL.
He can always flip hamburgers at Hardy's...
 

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I think (believe) he was coming late to practice and hungover or drugged. Garrett got tired of his act and
I think believed he was having a bad influence on the other DL. Hardy may be thru in the NFL.
He can always flip hamburgers at Hardy's...

Based on what? Mincey? If that was the case, why did the team play him the most snaps out of any lineman?

If Lawrence was suspended, it was because, like Gregory, he violated the rules multiple times. That would mean the Cowbous were aware of the fragility of their DL for months. Gregory smoked weed... But Hardy likes to party, but is a problem?

Like I said, Hardy isn't signed because of PR and being black-balled by the NFL... Jerry was probably still hoping to resign him, which is why they waited so long to finally make the announcement..
 

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But D Lawrence 'blames' the doctor and that it was all just an innocent mistake, though ADD has nothing to do with muscle recovery..

uh, you wanna compare these situations? you really wanna go there? comparing DV, refusal to acknowledge it in any way, downright defiance about it...to what's going on with DLaw? ok buddy.
 

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uh, you wanna compare these situations? you really wanna go there? comparing DV, refusal to acknowledge it in any way, downright defiance about it...to what's going on with DLaw? ok buddy.

What if both really were innocent????.......
 

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Based on what? Mincey? If that was the case, why did the team play him the most snaps out of any lineman?

If Lawrence was suspended, it was because, like Gregory, he violated the rules multiple times. That would mean the Cowbous were aware of the fragility of their DL for months. Gregory smoked weed... But Hardy likes to party, but is a problem?

Like I said, Hardy isn't signed because of PR and being black-balled by the NFL... Jerry was probably still hoping to resign him, which is why they waited so long to finally make the announcement..

You could very well be right that all 32 teams have put Mr. Hardy in the "BOX" and he's out for good.
 

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uh, you wanna compare these situations? you really wanna go there? comparing DV, refusal to acknowledge it in any way, downright defiance about it...to what's going on with DLaw? ok buddy.

Maybe because he didn't commit DV and the Coke addict was in HIS house and property, tearing up his place.. I'm sure you'd enjoy it if a Coke head did the same thing to your house and property.. Most of the posters in this forum can't even handle disagreements on this forum, and here they are acting holier-than-Thou with respect to Hardy, like they would have been in total control of the situation when the girl takes her high heels off and tries to strike their face with it..

But yeah, Hardy doesn't have to accept guilt for something to appease you or anybody else. That's no qualification to be stripped of the right to play. He served his suspension.

Being black-balled is double punishment..
 

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You could very well be right that all 32 teams have put Mr. Hardy in the "BOX" and he's out for good.

Of course they can, just like when they agreed to squash the Spygate incident.. Just like when Goodell allowed Ray Rice to play after seeing the video, but blackballed him once the PR hit came..
 

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Maybe because he didn't commit DV and the Coke addict was in HIS house and property, tearing up his place.. I'm sure you'd enjoy it if a Coke head did the same thing to your house and property.. Most of the posters in this forum can't even handle disagreements on this forum, and here they are acting holier-than-Thou with respect to Hardy, like they would have been in total control of the situation when the girl takes her high heels off and tries to strike your face with it..

But yeah, Hardy doesn't have to accept guilt for something to appease you or anybody else. That's no qualification to be stripped of the right to play. He served his suspension.

That is it exactly....it wasn't until the season turned to crap that Hardy became a problem again...he is the only one to stand up to the pathetic effort giving by the players and coaches and he is ostracized for it because Garrett can't put him on a leash.....
 

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Maybe DLaw's 8 sacks was a result of PEDs.. If that's the case, what hope are we going to have in his performance, which one claims will replace Hardy, when even prior to Hardy stepping on the field, Lawrence was basically trash? He's now suspended and any other violation, there goes ten games..

The FO would have to have known the fragility of their line.. With Gregory, you've got huge possibility of suspensions looming over his head as well.

The self-righteous posturing in regards to Hardy by the FO and the NFL is a joke... It's amazing nobody sees right through it..
 
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Of course they can, just like when they agreed to squash the Spygate incident.. Just like when Goodell allowed Ray Rice to play after seeing the video, but blackballed him once the PR hit came..

NFL=good ole' boys club. "Don't mess with the Brand...or you'll be BANNED".:)
 

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Maybe DLaw's 8 sacks was a result of PEDs.. If that's the case, what hope are we going to have in his performance, which one claims will replace Hardy, when even prior to Hardy stepping on the field, Lawrence was basically trash?

The FO would have to have known the fragility of their line..

Partying and failed tests by OScandrick, RoMcClain, Gregory and DLaw =OK
Sideline and twitter outbursts by Dez, Beasley and Witten= OK
Josh Brent and Joseph Randle= total support and second and third chances


GHardy >>>>>> the Devil
 

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Partying and failed tests by OScandrick, RoMcClain, Gregory and DLaw =OK
Sideline outbursts by Dez and Witten= OK
Josh Brent and Joseph Randle= total support and second and third chances


GHardy >>>>>> the Devil

With Hardy potentially playing next to a legitimate former Eagles DT and Crawford, who loved Hardy, and a year of adjustment under his belt, who knows how good this DL could have been.. What a tragic time to be a Cowboys fan in this era of social-media pandering..

Now we are relying on a guy who sucked when Hardy wasn't on the field, coming off back surgery and failed multiple drug (PEDs) tests which could explain his sudden 8 sacks anyways...
 

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Listening to the guys on "The Ticket" during the draft, it's apparent that only a small part of the "Hardy story" has been released as far as it applies to the Cowboys– his influence and behavior are or were much worse than just being late a few times and having an outburst or two on the sidelines.

Why didn't the Cowboys punish him?

The NFLPA is defiant when it comes to any of their members being punished by teams. It would have cast an even bigger shadow on the organization. In the midst of a nightmare season that's all they needed was a media fiasco because Hardy was suspended for bad behavior.

The team did the right thing... They let Hardy play out the string, clean out his locker and let him go on his way.
 

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The problem is the testing.
If you have a fundamental understanding of ADD, you can figure out how to answer a questionnaire to obtain the diagnosis. I use more complex testing so that the youth especially would not be able to manipulate the document.

You probably don't actually have ADD, or you'd realize a revelation on the medication. For those patients whose pathology blocks their ability to read, calculate, organize thoughts and tasks, and solve complex problems the medication represents the key that unlocks doors to success that had otherwise been closed. Then the self esteem that follows allows a student to set their goals high and believe that they can achieve anything, as opposed to thinking that they just weren't smart enough.

The irregular levrels of naturally occurring endogenous adrenergics that characterize ADD/ADHD may normalize into adulthood, but some don't. I have dozens of patients in my practice of all ages, some in their sixties. They do not experience the tolerance that you describe over several years; that's likely to only be significant in non-ADD users.

I agree that the root of the problem is the testing. We lead busy lives, with dual income families, kids and other obligations. It is easy to lose focus. The testing for the most part is too subjective and many doctors are too quick to pass on a diagnosis. In part I believe because people want answers to thier problems and doing something is better than nothing.

As far as kids are concerned I am certain there are some that fit the criteria for medication but again it is being over prescribed. People pump McDonald's and Coke into thier kids and then wonder why they are so hyper and unfocused. The food dyes, the lack of healthy bacteria and all of the other stuff we feed our kids has a significant effect on thier behavior. As well as easily accessible and constant over stimulation from xbox, to cell phones.

For the kids that are getting presribed these meds I hope thier doctors are starting with the least aggressive route possible and educating the parents first. My daughter is borderline and Ive seen the results from making lifestyle changes. I do believe levels can be corrected by committing to those changes. However, we live in a society that would rather take a statin and hyptn meds then eat well and exercise.

In any case I have zero idea if the athletes in the NFL that have scripts legitimately need them. Studying play books and tape isnt always easy but that doesn't necessarily mean you need medication.

I do still stand by the drugs being classified as performance enhancing due to my experience and that of others I know. But hats off to you for being one of the good ones that doesnt run to your prescription pad the first time someone sneezes. We need doctors like that, there arent enough.
 

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Of course they can, just like when they agreed to squash the Spygate incident.. Just like when Goodell allowed Ray Rice to play after seeing the video, but blackballed him once the PR hit came..

The NFL is a closed society run by very rich owners for the benefit of the owners. You either have to embrace that or move on to soccer.
 

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The NFL is a closed society run by very rich owners for the benefit of the owners. You either have to embrace that or move on to soccer.

I agree.. My point is that one shouldn't let them dictate views on 'morality', especially when it's so selective..
 

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And all the internet White Knights can sleep soundly knowing they slayed the DV dragon

Yep, the NFL is owned, lock-stock&barrel by them for them and they allow who gets into the clubs.
Not much different than any other private club like the Elks. They have total control.
 
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