News: DeMarcus Lawrence Appeal

[jnday]

Goodell thinks he is Godell.

At one time, I would have disagreed, but now I see that he is a power- hungry little bully that likes to throw his authority around.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did you happen to see this post?

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/counter-point-sturm-is-wrong-about-our-drafting.348875

I read the points and they are weak. The only one that has any real merit is the one year we had no first round pick. But at the end of the day there WERE other teams in those years with no first round picks. And if you trade away your first round picks, then that is your own fault. Adding ONE more starter to the list would not have changed much.

Gotta love the point where he insinuates that having Garrett as our coach hurt our player development. I will agree on that one big time. LOL

The others don't water in my opinion. And why would sturm sabotage something like that?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Oh, apologies. I thought you were referencing that Sturm article.

I looked back at the article and it was Sturm. I edited my response.

 

[CowboyRoy]

At one time, I would have disagreed, but now I see that he is a power- hungry little bully that likes to throw his authority around.

You cant hate what he does, however. He is trying to get, for the most part, a bunch of overpaid, classless babies to act like mature adults. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I read the points and they are weak. The only one that has any real merit is the one year we had no first round pick. But at the end of the day there WERE other teams in those years with no first round picks. And if you trade away your first round picks, then that is your own fault. Adding ONE more starter to the list would not have changed much.

Gotta love the point where he insinuates that having Garrett as our coach hurt our player development. I will agree on that one big time. LOL

The others don't water in my opinion. And why would sturm sabotage something like that?

You don't think there is any merit to starting from when Garrett and the new regime came here? It makes perfect sense to me. The current FO should not be judged by the picks of the Phillips era.

 

[jnday]

Oh well? LOL

And they went ahead and did the same sort of stupid thing this year even after the Gregory debacle. Only this time it is an injury issue. And the guy wont even play this year. Mind boggling how stupid the Cowboy brass is. They always have to hit the home run. Always have to go for the big score, the risky pick. They cant simply do the steady, smart thing. The best drafting teams do just that. When the Cowboys have drafted steady and smart their drafts have been much better. I can show you an article on just how bad the Cowboys have been drafting over the last 9 years if you are interested compared to the rest of the league.

For some reason the team considers the second round as the rounnd to gamble. The second round is a round to get starters IMO. Why gamble when starting quality players are available that offers little risk? Gambles should be taken in the mid-rounds at the earliest. It is a poor approach to the draft and the results over the last ten years prove just how bad the second round has been for the team.

 

[Denim Chicken]

For some reason the team considers the second round as the rounnd to gamble. The second round is a round to get starters IMO. Why gamble when starting quality players are available that offers little risk? Gambles should be taken in the mid-rounds at the earliest. It is a poor approach to the draft and the results over the last ten years prove just how bad the second round has been for the team.

Jury is out on Smith and Gregory, but all other 2nd RD picks have been / are starters--success to a varying degree, but that's the draft.


Smith, Gregory, D-Law, Escobar, Crawford, Carter, Lee

 

[CowboyRoy]

You don't think there is any merit to starting from when Garrett and the new regime came here? It makes perfect sense to me. The current FO should not be judged by the picks of the Phillips era.

Its Jerry and Stephen that have been drafting so at what point does it matter. Now if you are trying to prove that in the last 5 years drafting has improved, then you could bias the stats to show only those years. But even if you did, I dont think that it would change all that much. The first round has been great of late, but certainly from the 3rd round on, its been horrific. Even our second rounders have been suspect in that time.

 

[CowboyRoy]

For some reason the team considers the second round as the rounnd to gamble. The second round is a round to get starters IMO. Why gamble when starting quality players are available that offers little risk? Gambles should be taken in the mid-rounds at the earliest. It is a poor approach to the draft and the results over the last ten years prove just how bad the second round has been for the team.

I agree. I actually think that they go for broke on most picks after the first round. They dont value those picks enough. Its almost like they get so excited every year with their first two picks that they feel like they can swing for the fences the rest of the draft.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Its Jerry and Stephen that have been drafting so at what point does it matter. Now if you are trying to prove that in the last 5 years drafting has improved, then you could bias the stats to show only those years. But even if you did, I dont think that it would change all that much. The first round has been great of late, but certainly from the 3rd round on, its been horrific. Even our second rounders have been suspect in that time.

From that same thread:

14 players drafted by the Cowboys in rounds 4-7 from 2011 to 2015 played in the NFL during the 2015 season.

This includes 4 4th round picks, 4 7th round picks, 4 5th round picks and 2 6th round picks.

Compare that to 11 for the Eagles, 8 for the Giants, and 15 for the Commanders. The number lies somewhere in the middle of the pack.

Of course, this doesnt account for the undrafted free agents that have made a profound impact including a Pro Bowl kicker.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Jury is out on Smith and Gregory, but all other 2nd RD picks have been / are starters--success to a varying degree, but that's the draft.


Smith, Gregory, D-Law, Escobar, Crawford, Carter, Lee

Smith isnt playing, Gregory is pretty much toast, escobar has been a total bust, Crawford has been solid but ovepaid, Carter was a joke and didnt get resigned. Lee has been great, but he plays just about every other year.

Lawrence actually will probably wind up being the best 2nd round pick in a long time if he doesnt get suspended again. Then maybe Crawford as a 3rd rounder, and then Lee with his games missed. all the rest have been disappointments thus far.

 

[CowboyRoy]

From that same thread:

I am on record as stating that the Cowboys are the best undrafted FA team in the NFL. For whatever reason, they are.

 

[CowboyRoy]

From that same thread:

Played? What does played mean? They get in the game once in a while?

I mean honestly, would you consider our safeties as good players and draft picks? You could argue that the talent has been so bad on the Cowboys at certain position that lessor round players they had no choice but to start.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You don't think there is any merit to starting from when Garrett and the new regime came here? It makes perfect sense to me. The current FO should not be judged by the picks of the Phillips era.

But we dont need stats to know that the Cowboys drafts under McClay have been better than pre McClay. That is without question. But still...............Jerry sneaks in too much with his style of drafting and rounds 2-7 are still not good enough. Would you agree on that?

 

[DBOY3141]

For some reason the team considers the second round as the rounnd to gamble. The second round is a round to get starters IMO. Why gamble when starting quality players are available that offers little risk? Gambles should be taken in the mid-rounds at the earliest. It is a poor approach to the draft and the results over the last ten years prove just how bad the second round has been for the team.

Cowboys have failed in the 2nd round, most will agree on that. But they are not the only ones. Just looked at the Pats draft since 2011.

7 2nd rounders. 4 on the team. None from 2011 and 2012 drafts. 2013- Collins is starter, Dobson is 3rd string(has only played in 24 games). 2014- Garoppola-2nd string. 2015-Richards-3rd string.

Just one example. Pats are a great organization and they too seem to miss more times than not on 2nd rounders. Hopefully Smith pays off in the long run for the Cowboys, we need some good luck from that round.

 

[Doc50]

Well the argument is they help you train and add power.

Amphetamines, including those prescribed for ADD/ADHD, do not have any sustained performance-enhancing benefit.

When properly prescribed, the level of adrenalin-like substances in the patient is no different from their untreated levels.

Problems arise when individuals elect to take 2-4 times the usual dosage, and then are in effect "speeding". This gives a temporary boost of energy similar to adrenaline, and it can be sustained for several hours before the body crashes. One could conceive that speeding during a game would give a player a temporary advantage, so this is properly banned. However, the long term effects of amphetamine use are highly detrimental and actually confer a disadvantage to that kind of user.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Smith isnt playing, Gregory is pretty much toast, escobar has been a total bust, Crawford has been solid but ovepaid, Carter was a joke and didnt get resigned. Lee has been great, but he plays just about every other year.

Lawrence actually will probably wind up being the best 2nd round pick in a long time if he doesnt get suspended again. Then maybe Crawford as a 3rd rounder, and then Lee with his games missed. all the rest have been disappointments thus far.

Smith and Gregory remain to be seen, but agree not looking good for Greg.

D-Law, Crawford, and Lee were all good picks.

Carter is really the only bad pick and he was considered a top linebacker prospect.

 

[Denim Chicken]

But we dont need stats to know that the Cowboys drafts under McClay have been better than pre McClay. That is without question. But still...............Jerry sneaks in too much with his style of drafting and rounds 2-7 are still not good enough. Would you agree on that?

I will admit I haven't been estaic with some of the picks of late. But, I do not believe we are one of the worst drafting teams in the NFL.

 

[DBOY3141]

I will admit I haven't been estaic with some of the picks of late. But, I do not believe we are one of the worst drafting teams in the NFL.

Very true. I just looked at the Pats drafts since 2011.

42 draft picks -22 on team
7 2nd rounders - 4 on team (1 from 2015, 1 from 2014, 2 from 2013 - only 1 starter)
17 5-7 rounders - 6 on team (3 from 2015 draft, 1 from 2012, 2 from 2011)

draft is hit or miss.

 

[CWR]

Amphetamines, including those prescribed for ADD/ADHD, do not have any sustained performance-enhancing benefit.

When properly prescribed, the level of adrenalin-like substances in the patient is no different from their untreated levels.

Problems arise when individuals elect to take 2-4 times the usual dosage, and then are in effect "speeding". This gives a temporary boost of energy similar to adrenaline, and it can be sustained for several hours before the body crashes. One could conceive that speeding during a game would give a player a temporary advantage, so this is properly banned. However, the long term effects of amphetamine use are highly detrimental and actually confer a disadvantage to that kind of user.

Im not speaking from a text book but actual life experience and I will tell you with certainty that add or adhd is absolutely over diagnosed and doctors hand out the medications like candy.

I took Vyvanse for about 6 months and when on Vyvanse I worked out like an animal with much greater focus, pushing myself much harder than I would have otherwise. There were very obvious training benifits.

I do agree long term effects are detrimental and dopamine receptors most likely do become depleted or desensitized needing more and more in order to get back to baseline. Which is in fact why I quit. Half of America is distracted and focus isnt automatic, sadly there is money to be made and legal drug pushers do just that.