DeMarvion Overshown slowly working his way back from torn ACL

[big dog cowboy]

will they get depth because of this reason, usually not!!

For example?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Will take half a year to get healthy after that injury. Steele took 3/4 or the year to look better. Expect the same with Diggs.

What does Steele have to do with Overshown and Diggs? Completely different people!

 

[nobody]

I wish him well. That's a difficult injury to recover quickly from. Has a player ever come back the same the season after an ACL injury? It's usually a season after that in which they return to form if they return to form at all.

I really hope he proves me wrong...whether he's a Cowboy when he does it or not. Sucks when a player just starts their NFL career and gets something like that.

 

[glimmerman]

What does Steele have to do with Overshown and Diggs? Completely different people!

Was talking about the type of injury. All ACL injuries. I know everyone heals differently. Steele and Gallup took a while. Well Gallup may not be the same again. He had mental aspect problems he said. Steele improved towards the end of the year. Was this the second year for Gallup after surgery.

 

[morasp]

He tore the ACL August 19th. Less than 8 months ago. It's still true for most players it takes a full year, or longer, to recover.

I'd not be too concerned about his lack of apparent speed, agility, etc. at this point.

Let's check back in July or such and we may have a different view....

Thanks, I was going to look this up. It's not like he got injured during the season.

 

[VaqueroTD]

He tore the ACL August 19th. Less than 8 months ago. It's still true for most players it takes a full year, or longer, to recover.

I'd not be too concerned about his lack of apparent speed, agility, etc. at this point.

Let's check back in July or such and we may have a different view....

The silver lining this year is that the ACL guys (Diggs, Stephens, Overshown..) all happened early in the year.

Versus last year (Pollard, Steele) when all of them were recovering from an ACL that happened very late in the season.

Hoping that translates to faster recovery to start the season. I am very worried though about Overshown's overall durability. Was injured quite a bit in college.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Yes, in fact i am convinced AP used PED's during his rehab, it's insane i watched a documentary on it and it actually motivated me to rehab myself.

Something I would like to note is that in the USA ACL repairs use someone else's tendon (cadaveour) where in Canada we actually have to use our own Tendon due to a liability risk - i know it's really dumb. So I had to use my own hamstring tendon which is why my rehab is severely different compared to someone from USA. In that case, from the research I've done it is even easier and faster to heal when the surgery is done in the USA.

So look at me and you - my situation is per say a little worse off but I have some youth on my side to combat that. We are both here saying we returned to sport, I just played mens league basketball and was the top scorer last night for 3 hours. Like you said, you never look back - for myself to overcome the mental aspect I refused to ever even rehab with a Don Joy brace.

Diggs and Overshown are getting surgeries from the best DR in the country, and rehab from the same type of elite specialist. It is fair to say their return can be anticipated as quicker than normal but then again look at guys like Michael Gallup - got paid and shut down.

My take is to be cautious.

The injury happened and now it will be a wait and see game, but they should have some risk management in place. Have another LB ready to go. If Overshown beats him out of a position in TC or later in the regular season, so be it.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Was talking about the type of injury. All ACL injuries. I know everyone heals differently. Steele and Gallup took a while. Well Gallup may not be the same again. He had mental aspect problems he said. Steele improved towards the end of the year. Was this the second year for Gallup after surgery.

Gallup injured his knee on Jan. 2, 2022. This upcoming football season will be the third season since the injury.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

My take is to be cautious.

The injury happened and now it will be a wait and see game, but they should have some risk management in place. Have another LB ready to go. If Overshown beats him out of a position in TC or later in the regular season, so be it.

Kendricks is the risk management, imho. Not that another one wouldn't be nice, but Dallas does have Clark and Wheat as well. Now certainly Clark has had some opportunities and hasn't done all that well, and Wheat is a longshot to even stay on the team, but it's not like Dallas has to load up on linebackers in the draft or free agency. Also have many other needs, sorry to say Dallas can't concentrate on one or even two positions, best we can hope for is for two solid draftees and perhaps a "surprise! he's really good" player later in the draft, combined with somebody like Williams or Tolbert making a big jump from last year.

 

[GORICO]

i have heard on average it takes 2 years to fully recover from ACL...but i am sure factors come into play...like how severe etc?

 

[GORICO]

now here's the crazy thing I didn't watch it because I don't care I don't care what a guy looks like right now in a video... You have any videos that are going around that look like that with guys working out especially the running backs like Henry and Barkley as if now is the time finally in their career they're working extra hard and they're gonna make this the best season ever come on people this is a very boring time for the NFL so they're posting things I'm not watching them I don't really care about videos and workouts all I care about is what they look like on the field....

you are a true blueblood/Cowboy fan

 

[LACowboysFan1]

i have heard on average it takes 2 years to fully recover from ACL...but i am sure factors come into play...like how severe etc?

I always heard one year, but yeah it depends on how bad the tear, could be completely torn in half or torn off the bone. I worked with a guy back in the 1970's who tore his in half, couldn't be repaired, so the doctor took the MCL and LCL tendons off of the lower leg bones, crisscrossed them over the knee and re-attached them to the bones. Later that same guy completed in a couple of powerlifting meets and squatted over 400 lbs.

Let's hope Overshown's wasn't a bad tear....

 

[GORICO]

For example?

big dog---i am just frustrated and a bit riled up...Jerry tries to smooth talk his way into another season...yes everyone we are going "all in" this year?....i did not believe it.....we really have a broken management system in Dallas....we need much better O line play and D line play and a better #1 RB than my man Rico Dowdle....i have always liked Rico since college...but losing Pollard was a big loss in my eyes.....we need superior linebacker play....i am worried about out cornerbacks too...but it was good news where i read Dak wants not a huge contract so team has more money?.....but Jerry makes me sick...probably half drunk on Johnnie Walker blue label anytime he comes before a microphone?

 

[GORICO]

The silver lining this year is that the ACL guys (Diggs, Stephens, Overshown..) all happened early in the year.

Versus last year (Pollard, Steele) when all of them were recovering from an ACL that happened very late in the season.

Hoping that translates to faster recovery to start the season. I am very worried though about Overshown's overall durability. Was injured quite a bit in college.

i have heard it takes 2 years to fully recover ACL...but many factors are involved in that equation too?

 

[GORICO]

I always heard one year, but yeah it depends on how bad the tear, could be completely torn in half or torn off the bone. I worked with a guy back in the 1970's who tore his in half, couldn't be repaired, so the doctor took the MCL and LCL tendons off of the lower leg bones, crisscrossed them over the knee and re-attached them to the bones. Later that same guy completed in a couple of powerlifting meets and squatted over 400 lbs.

Let's hope Overshown's wasn't a bad tear....

i agree lets hope...plus remember Jerry said this year going all in...what a bunch of....rather not complete that sentence...we need big time help in several areas

but i like fact we got Zimmer for DC....he will mix 4-3 and 3-4 and disguise where you do not know who is rushing passer....and it a dog at stopping the run...but

he needs personnel

 

[LACowboysFan1]

i agree lets hope...plus remember Jerry said this year going all in...what a bunch of....rather not complete that sentence...we need big time help in several areas

but i like fact we got Zimmer for DC....he will mix 4-3 and 3-4 and disguise where you do not know who is rushing passer....and it a dog at stopping the run...but

he needs personnel

Yes, indeed. (Feel free to insert commercial here).

Draft is always important, but I can't recall many drafts over the years that were as important as this one. So many needs, which in of itself isn't unusual, but IF Dallas can hit on OT and C and RB, and IF Overshown and Diggs recover fully from injury, and IF some of the second and third year players can make that big second year jump, then this team might, repeat might, not be as bad as some think.

Not hoping for the above, of course, I lost hope for Dallas a number of years ago, just noting what would be nice to see...

 

[blueblood70]

you are a true blueblood/Cowboy fan

I've been called many things whether they fit or not the one thing I do know it's I'm very passionate about my Dallas Cowboys.. I will not allow them to be trampled upon by our own fan base called out using descriptive words that don't fit and that goes for our players I will stick up for any of them that are wearing the colors.. I pull for the stars I pull for the logo we don't have a choice on who's playing and who's coaching and who's the GM we just have our team to watch year to year week to week and that is just what it is.

I'm not gonna sit here and be that guy saying ohh it's been 28 years and it's the same old same old no to me every year is a one off.. So I for sure will be passionate about sticking up for my team and no I'm not wearing rose colored glasses I'm a realist I know what's been going on but again there are about 20 plus other teams that would trade places with us and wouldn't be complaining about being bumped out of the playoffs every year literally five out of the last eight years we've been to the playoffs and somehow this fan base talks as if we're A 5 win team.

What they need is a dose of reality we need about 3-5 and twelve seasons in a row so they can witness what a really bad team truly looks like and then they can complain about never winning a division finishing last in the division and not making the playoffs that'd be a real thing to complain about....

 

[blueblood70]

you are a true blueblood/Cowboy fan

yes I'm a very passionate fans that take these things very personal when they attack every player every coach the front office the team on a whole I'm gonna be the one that speaks up for sure lol...

 

[MapleLeaf]

Kendricks is the risk management, imho. Not that another one wouldn't be nice, but Dallas does have Clark and Wheat as well. Now certainly Clark has had some opportunities and hasn't done all that well, and Wheat is a longshot to even stay on the team, but it's not like Dallas has to load up on linebackers in the draft or free agency. Also have many other needs, sorry to say Dallas can't concentrate on one or even two positions, best we can hope for is for two solid draftees and perhaps a "surprise! he's really good" player later in the draft, combined with somebody like Williams or Tolbert making a big jump from last year.

From what I can see on the website we are walking into the draft with Buddy Johnson, Damone Clark, Eric Kendricks and Overshown as the LBs. I didn't count Micah because I feel, although he is listed as a LB, his impact isn't at that position and we will always see him on the line.

In 2021 with a defensive coach who typically played only 2 LBs in most sets we had: Van Der Esch, Bernard, Cox, Gifford, Golston, Kamara and Jaylon Smith. Seven LBs. Once again I left out Parsons.

Kendricks to me is the replacement for Van Der Esch. We need a few more LBs, and I would make sure there is coverage for Overshown until he can prove he is not a JAG on the field recovering from an injury.

 

[glimmerman]

Gallup injured his knee on Jan. 2, 2022. This upcoming football season will be the third season since the injury.

Thanks. I thought it was right after he got paid. It sucked because he was doing good before the injury.