DeMarvion Overshown slowly working his way back from torn ACL

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I'm not saying it to cloud the situation its just an observation. We'll see when the pads come on so I'm not really worried about it. BTW I always thought Witten looked slow as well and he turned out ok.
And Michael Irvin wasn't the fastest guy in the world and yet he had a major knee injury the year before the Cowboys bought by Jerry Jones and he had a pretty great career... All I'm saying is just because Terrence Steele and Michael Gallup were a little slow to come back that doesn't mean the other two guys this year in diggs and Overshown will also be that way they could surprise you and be ready for game one right out of the gate back to themselves.

This is what I mean Chris Godwin for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers got hurt about the same time Michael Gallup did they had the surgery about the same time they both came back but Michael gallop was slow to come back Chris Godwin this was his output 104 catches for 1100 yards 4 touchdowns or something it's not the same for every player... And right now he's had three over 1000 yard seasons Chris Godwin since he's hurt his leg it literally the same surgery same position and yet two different rehab processes for the players... So we have proof from both sides it just depends on the player the rehab it's all different for each player just like for me and you very different I had 0 problems coming back in nine months and you did..
 

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Well everybody's different Adrian Peterson came back in six months and was the same guy and let me explain something to you I've also had this ACL replacement surgery in 2018 when I was 48 years old let me tell you something about myself even at 54 years old I'm still snowboarding wakeboarding and surfing those are called extreme sports OK I'll even jump on a dirt bike.. I have an extremely tough job as an HVAC contractor I'm still out in the field helping my guys install stuff walking up ladders grabbing stuff and yanking it into the attic balancing on beams basically...

  • In six months I was basically back riding again and not doing anything big but I was actually cruising around behind the boat making small jumps I went snowboarding and I didn't do anything big but I rode down the hill just fine it didn't hold me back at work at all I was back to work in three months like doing everything no limitations just making sure I wore my knee brace which I still have my sports Don joy knee brace you know like they wear in football I wear it when I do anything crazy...

  • At nine months I was doing absolutely the same stuff that got me hurt big flips behind the boat, I was back bombing the hills on a snowboard, and I never looked back and yes, I still wear that brace just for extra protection you know more mental than anything.

So at 48 years old, my first major injury odf long history of sports like HS football, soccer, baseball, etc etc weekend warrior , I had ACL surgery & my 6 month rehab went great and at nine months just like AP, for reference I'm a white guy, I'm a 54 year old white guy, that does a lot of extreme sports, i came back the same level I was doing it before I got hurt.

so I didn't have to have things not refiring, so I don't know what you're talking about ,yes some people take longer than others but everybody's not going to be Terrence Steele not everybody's going to look like Michael Gallup, which by the way that receiver over there for the Buccaneers who got hurt around the same time as Michael Gallup and came back in the same time frame had a pretty damn good season for the Buccaneers...

there's some of them are going to look like Adrian Peterson.

So I'm not saying that you're inaccurate,

I realized that your knee didn't heal fully for two or three years but I could tell you right now at nine months there was absolutely 0 setbacks for me and Im no professional athlete but I can tell you right now riding behind a boat at 23 miles an hour doing flips on a wakeboard and bombing mountains on a snowboard and I used to actually surfing behind the boat as rehab I was doing that at like 4 or five months post surgery,

you can't tell me that some of us who say it could be OK that Diggs comes back and so does Overshown faster and normal then others that we've seen on our team, it is very possible.
Yes, in fact i am convinced AP used PED's during his rehab, it's insane i watched a documentary on it and it actually motivated me to rehab myself.

Something I would like to note is that in the USA ACL repairs use someone else's tendon (cadaveour) where in Canada we actually have to use our own Tendon due to a liability risk - i know it's really dumb. So I had to use my own hamstring tendon which is why my rehab is severely different compared to someone from USA. In that case, from the research I've done it is even easier and faster to heal when the surgery is done in the USA.

So look at me and you - my situation is per say a little worse off but I have some youth on my side to combat that. We are both here saying we returned to sport, I just played mens league basketball and was the top scorer last night for 3 hours. Like you said, you never look back - for myself to overcome the mental aspect I refused to ever even rehab with a Don Joy brace.

Diggs and Overshown are getting surgeries from the best DR in the country, and rehab from the same type of elite specialist. It is fair to say their return can be anticipated as quicker than normal but then again look at guys like Michael Gallup - got paid and shut down.
 

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Yes, in fact i am convinced AP used PED's during his rehab, it's insane i watched a documentary on it and it actually motivated me to rehab myself.

Something I would like to note is that in the USA ACL repairs use someone else's tendon (cadaveour) where in Canada we actually have to use our own Tendon due to a liability risk - i know it's really dumb. So I had to use my own hamstring tendon which is why my rehab is severely different compared to someone from USA. In that case, from the research I've done it is even easier and faster to heal when the surgery is done in the USA.

So look at me and you - my situation is per say a little worse off but I have some youth on my side to combat that. We are both here saying we returned to sport, I just played mens league basketball and was the top scorer last night for 3 hours. Like you said, you never look back - for myself to overcome the mental aspect I refused to ever even rehab with a Don Joy brace.

Diggs and Overshown are getting surgeries from the best DR in the country, and rehab from the same type of elite specialist. It is fair to say their return can be anticipated as quicker than normal but then again look at guys like Michael Gallup - got paid and shut down.
It also takes time to get back in the shape they were in when the injury occurred.
They also have to get back mentally into the sport and it isnt just repair the injury, and you can play exactly as you did before.
I knew pollard and gallup would need more time to get back to where they were. but jones boys dont see it like that.

Diggs and overshon sp cant be back to 100% this coming season. They can be good, but not like they were before.
 

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It also takes time to get back in the shape they were in when the injury occurred.
They also have to get back mentally into the sport and it isnt just repair the injury, and you can play exactly as you did before.
I knew pollard and gallup would need more time to get back to where they were. but jones boys dont see it like that.

Diggs and overshon sp cant be back to 100% this coming season. They can be good, but not like they were before.
will they get depth because of this reason, usually not!!
 

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Yes, in fact i am convinced AP used PED's during his rehab, it's insane i watched a documentary on it and it actually motivated me to rehab myself.

Something I would like to note is that in the USA ACL repairs use someone else's tendon (cadaveour) where in Canada we actually have to use our own Tendon due to a liability risk - i know it's really dumb. So I had to use my own hamstring tendon which is why my rehab is severely different compared to someone from USA. In that case, from the research I've done it is even easier and faster to heal when the surgery is done in the USA.

So look at me and you - my situation is per say a little worse off but I have some youth on my side to combat that. We are both here saying we returned to sport, I just played mens league basketball and was the top scorer last night for 3 hours. Like you said, you never look back - for myself to overcome the mental aspect I refused to ever even rehab with a Don Joy brace.

Diggs and Overshown are getting surgeries from the best DR in the country, and rehab from the same type of elite specialist. It is fair to say their return can be anticipated as quicker than normal but then again look at guys like Michael Gallup - got paid and shut down.
I guess the positive we can take from this is overshown as a rookie who missed his rookie season as extra motivated to come back because he is yet to get paid lol.. By the way in the USA we have a choice on a cadaver or using our own I went with the cadaver and like I said never looked back so it's very possible he can come back and be very strong and I expect Trayvon diggs as well we're forgetting that guy... We need both these guys to get healed quick and be rolling when the season starts..
 

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He was looking terrific in camp last summer. Clearly the best of anyone from last years draft class. I’m not going to get my hopes up too high with him coming off an ACL. It could take until 2025 for him to return to form if he ever does. He could end up being one of those players who’s always hurt. I’m going to stay cautious.
We need to some DT's to keep him free to roam the field.
 

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Will take half a year to get healthy after that injury. Steele took 3/4 or the year to look better. Expect the same with Diggs. Gallup took to long to recover.
 

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Will take half a year to get healthy after that injury. Steele took 3/4 or the year to look better. Expect the same with Diggs. Gallup took to long to recover.
Please read all the responses especially mine I'm not gonna go over this there is no expectations on how long every player and every person heals differently you keep stating certain names and I'll stay Adrian Peterson and also Gallup at the same time God went over there for the damper Bay Buccaneers had 104 catches for over 1000 yards and now it's had two more 1000 yard seasons that's 3000 yard seasons had the same surgery at the same time was he exactly the same player when he came back no but he did not have the setbacks you can't expect them to have the same healing time or expectations that could take a half a year or more to heal they could be great day one nobody knows!!!
 

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Please read all the responses especially mine I'm not gonna go over this there is no expectations on how long every player and every person heals differently you keep stating certain names and I'll stay Adrian Peterson and also Gallup at the same time God went over there for the damper Bay Buccaneers had 104 catches for over 1000 yards and now it's had two more 1000 yard seasons that's 3000 yard seasons had the same surgery at the same time was he exactly the same player when he came back no but he did not have the setbacks you can't expect them to have the same healing time or expectations that could take a half a year or more to heal they could be great day one nobody knows!!!
I am totally pulling for Diggs to return in form. Overshawn is young so maybe.
 

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I am totally pulling for Diggs to return in form. Overshawn is young so maybe.
We'll talk to text ruin that

but all I'm saying is you remember Godwin with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers got hurt around the same time had surgery around the same time as Gallup and end up having 104 catches and over 1000 yards, was he exactly the same no, but since then he's also had two more 1000 yard seasons that's three straight 1000 yard seasons since his injury...

And we've seen Adrian Peterson do it, we've seen others and I explained earlier I was 48 years old when I had my ACL surgery and now I'm 54 I've had no setbacks but in nine months I was back 100% doing flips behind the boat, snowboarding, wakeboarding,& surfing I had 0 setbacks... so this is a young vibrant professional athlete with lots and lots of support with people to do his rehab, so not everyone is gonna end up like Gallup, they could end up being Adrian Peterson having their best seasons ever...
 

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We'll talk to text ruin that

but all I'm saying is you remember Godwin with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers got hurt around the same time had surgery around the same time as Gallup and end up having 104 catches and over 1000 yards, was he exactly the same no, but since then he's also had two more 1000 yard seasons that's three straight 1000 yard seasons since his injury...

And we've seen Adrian Peterson do it, we've seen others and I explained earlier I was 48 years old when I had my ACL surgery and now I'm 54 I've had no setbacks but in nine months I was back 100% doing flips behind the boat, snowboarding, wakeboarding,& surfing I had 0 setbacks... so this is a young vibrant professional athlete with lots and lots of support with people to do his rehab, so not everyone is gonna end up like Gallup, they could end up being Adrian Peterson having their best seasons ever...
We are about the same age. Quit doing them flips off the boat. Lmao. I had my rotator on my right shoulder fixed twice. I have lifted weights for years and it had been bothering me for years. It’s finally went enough to where I had MRI done it was 80% torn. Got it fixed and it felt amazing for a year. Cut down a tree and cut it up and was throwing the brush on the pile. The last piece and it went again, even worse. The surgeon couldn’t believe it, was just a fluke angle. He said he could fix it one more time but if it tares again it couldn’t be fixed again because there would be nothing to sew it to. Went through surgery again and rehab and felt great for a few months. Sure enough I sat down on a chair it that went over and put my hand out to catch myself and have a partial tare in it again. Lol. I swear this crap only happens to me. I take it easy in the gym now. High reps with light weight and short rests between sets. Just happy to be there now. We are not spring chickens anymore.
 
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