Deuce Vaughn: Ready to Cut it Loose

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The great Emmitt Smith would have gained any yards on those plays.
I don't remember Emmitt being met 3 yards in the backfield, if at all, when getting the handoff, but he certainly was one of the toughest runners to bring down. Emmitt could beat you with power, being slippery or running past you. One of the greatest runners of all time who had the luxury to run behind the best Oline of the 90s and one of the best in the history of the NFL.

 

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I wouldn't go that far man you forgot to DeMarco Murray and Ezekiel Elliott, they handled it like an old three down back. I mean you got Derek Henry doing that right now but yes it's very very rare these days.
I'll give it to you but they were kind of "the exception to the rule" during their times.
 

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Enjoy the ride. They hit bigtime on this 6th round pick.
Eric Scott, Vaughn, Mukuamu, Donovan Wilson, Cedric Wilson, Xavier Woods, Anthony Brown.....starting to turn into a nice little round for them. Donovan, Woods and Brown were starters and Wilson was a starter for us at times and got a nice deal because of it. I'm convinced Mukuamu is ready to be unleashed. Just waiting for a spot to open up for him.
 

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Vaughn is the 2nd best back on the roster but someone may play more because they can bring a different role to the table.

Vaughn is clearly the 2nd best RB on the team though.
If he were 5'8 instead of 5'5 people would be comparing him to Barry Sanders (5'8), but because he is so short people compare him to Darren Sproles (5'6). I'm not saying he is on the same level as Barry, but Vaughn's short area quickness I haven't seen in years in the NFL. I think he is better than Pollard right now, but that doesn't mean that he should start over Pollard, I think everything needs to be earned. I do worry about how small he is, but watching his college tape and this last pre-season game you can tell he is special. I also understand why people have questions because he will not wear defenses down ala Emmitt Smith, Zeke. One of the issues that Barry ran into is that he was not as durable as Emmitt, and he would get stopped in the back field often because he was more finesse than a pure downhill runner.

I also hate bringing up Barry after the first pre-season game, but when I was watching Vaughn I immediately felt that anytime he touched the ball anything could happen and I remember having that feeling when watching Barry Sanders. Like I said it's just a feeling not a complete evaluation. I would hold off on any evaluation until after the season then figure out where everything stands.

But if I were pressed today, Pollard would still be the starter, but obviously Vaughn would be getting a ton of looks throughout the season, because if he is what I think he is, I think that he will transform this team.
 

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Undersized LBs can flourish in the NFL as pass rushers. However, you don’t see that many under sized RBs, especially the size of Vaughn flourishing in the NFL.
Sorry KJJ gotta call you on this one, do you have a list of 5'5 RB's who lead the nation in carries and yards for their career in a P5 school? is it long? I'm betting its really short and no pun but seriously your trying to set a standard that is not there.
 

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Sorry KJJ gotta call you on this one, do you have a list of 5'5 RB's who lead the nation in carries and yards for their career in a P5 school? is it long? I'm betting its really short and no pun but seriously your trying to set a standard that is not there.
Call me on what? How many 5’5” RBs have flourished in the NFL? Can you provide a list of those? Everyone keeps bringing up what he did in college. He was a sixth round pick for a reason and he was our second sixth round pick. We’ll see how it plays out for him this season, but it’s silly continuing to argue about it.
 

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Call me on what? How many 5’5” RBs have flourished in the NFL? Can you provide a list of those? Everyone keeps bringing up what he did in college. He was a sixth round pick for a reason and he was our second sixth round pick. We’ll see how it plays out for him this season, but it’s silly continuing to argue about it.
how many have come to the NFL with his credentials? I get it but so far you really have not offered a counter with any substance. Could you be correct.. sure, could you be wrong yes. his only NFL action was good thats a fact.
 

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meh

he wouldnt have had any yards if the offensive line didnt open up holes...

he got met in the backfield by a DT and actually lost yards so he needs to hit the weights

that TD was a product of jacksonvilles dline not being starters....

"am i doing it right?"
 

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how many have come to the NFL with his credentials? I get it but so far you really have not offered a counter with any substance. Could you be correct.. sure, could you be wrong yes. his only NFL action was good thats a fact.
He was a sixth round pick, so his credentials obviously didn’t matter to anyone. Let me be absolutely clear with you. I’m not saying he’s not going to be a good player. I haven’t once said he’s not a good player. I’ve never said that he doesn’t have a lot of talent. The “only” concern I have with him is his size. That’s it! The only thing I’ve said where there’s going to be a right and a wrong, is that he won’t be one of our top two backs “entering” the regular season. If he is then I’ll be wrong.
 

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He was a sixth round pick, so his credentials obviously didn’t matter to anyone. Let me be absolutely clear with you. I’m not saying he’s not going to be a good player. I haven’t once said he’s not a good player. I’ve never said that he doesn’t have a lot of talent. The “only” concern I have with him is his size. That’s it! The only thing I’ve said where there’s going to be a right and a wrong, is that he won’t be one of our top two backs “entering” the regular season. If he is then I’ll be wrong.
ok, if he is not i'll be wrong, i get it. again i'll stand by what i said earlier i enjoy having football convo's with you.. you have an opinion and i have one I'm just making sure i'm not missing anything on mine.
 

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He was a sixth round pick, so his credentials obviously didn’t matter to anyone. Let me be absolutely clear with you. I’m not saying he’s not going to be a good player. I haven’t once said he’s not a good player. I’ve never said that he doesn’t have a lot of talent. The “only” concern I have with him is his size. That’s it! The only thing I’ve said where there’s going to be a right and a wrong, is that he won’t be one of our top two backs “entering” the regular season. If he is then I’ll be wrong.
I disagree with your take, but I think it is a valid criticism. He is a small finesse back with questionable strength. No back that is 5'5 should ever be successful in the NFL.
 

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ok, if he is not i'll be wrong, i get it. again i'll stand by what i said earlier i enjoy having football convo's with you.. you have an opinion and i have one I'm just making sure i'm not missing anything on mine.
Our conversation has been pleasant. Can’t say the same for some of the others I’ve had. I just want to be sure I’m making myself clear. I know there will be several fans twisting my comments in the coming days and weeks concerning Vaughn. They’ll claim I said he wasn’t going to be any good and that he wouldn’t make the team and blah blah blah. I’m already dealing with that now. They’ll find all kinds of ways to twist and turn everything I’ve said.
 

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Our conversation has been pleasant. Can’t say the same for some of the others I’ve had. I just want to be sure I’m making myself clear. I know there will be several fans twisting my comments in the coming days and weeks concerning Vaughn. They’ll claim I said he wasn’t going to be any good and that he wouldn’t make the team and blah blah blah. I’m already dealing with that now. They’ll find all kinds of ways to twist and turn everything I’ve said.
You did question him which is understandable if you haven’t watched film of him in college.
 

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I did too after he was drafted but I watched his videos and knew he would have success in the NFL if used properly.
So after one preseason game against a bunch of third stringers, you’ve already summed up his career in the NFL as a success? It’s going to be interesting to see what some of you who’ve already anointed him as a success, have to say next week if he doesn’t play very well and happens to put the ball on the ground.
 

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So after one preseason game, you’ve already summed up his career in the NFL as a success? It’s going to be interesting to see if some of you who’ve already anointed him as a success, have to say next week if he doesn’t play very well and happens to put the ball on the ground.
but again your discounting everything he did to get here, his credentials even in the NFL so far are better than the 2 guys you have ahead of him..at every level.. thats what I'm saying.
 
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