Dez may hold out multiple games-Tom Condon

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http://www.thescore.com/news/781265

I still dont see the point of this. If a new deal isnt struck by the deadline he cant get a new one. Whats the point of sitting games? This is bad news for us if its true. I personally think its just posturing as they know the cowboys are getting ready to offer something before the deadline.

Big emphasis on " may" when it gets to " will" then I'll think its really serious enough to be concerned about.
 

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Agreed.

If this does happen, then the season looks like a wash.

Cowboys hand out bad contract after bad contract to certified bums. The 1 time we have a legit superstar, they decide it's time to change their ways.

Dez is no saint either in all this.

I do agree with that. Dez is paying the price for the bad Cowboy decisions of the past.
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It seems like a lot of people here haven't gone through negotiations before

Agree. This is the " shoot for the moon" opener and strike fear into the timid tactic..... Far away from the final you walk and I don't care part
 

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The trend will continue, and get worse without him.

I guess the T-Will fans will get what they want. They will see their main man in action as the lead WR for a few games. Then we will see how good he actually is.

Overall this **** sucks. I expected more from Dez, then again maybe it's not all his fault.

I don't think Dallas would operate with TWill as a lead receiver. They have 3-4 WRs plus Witten to spread it around to with no alpha dog.
The risk wouldn't be moving the ball--they do that just fine--but there could be real risk when they absolutely have to have a dominant guy for a redzone mismatch TD.
 

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It does get the fans to over-react, just look a this thread and others; however, I don't think the team will be bothered by the fan reaction at this point in time. I guess it is possible, because they are selling seats now, but I don't think Jerry is having any problems selling seats these days.

I don't think the fan's reaction will have any effect on Jerry. The fan base has been mad at him for years and he's immune to it.
 

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The trend will continue, and get worse without him.

I guess the T-Will fans will get what they want. They will see their main man in action as the lead WR for a few games. Then we will see how good he actually is.

Overall this **** sucks. I expected more from Dez, then again maybe it's not all his fault.

I don't think Dallas would operate with TWill as a lead receiver. They have 3-4 WRs plus Witten to spread it around to with no alpha dog.
The risk wouldn't be moving the ball--they do that just fine--but there could be real risk when they absolutely have to have a dominant guy for a redzone mismatch TD.
 

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There is leverage on both sides technically so I totally understand the stance of Condon and Dez. I'll explain below...

Dez can holdout and it not cost him a thing actually. Once a player signs the franchise tag tender, the one year salary becomes fully guaranteed. Dez will have until game 10 to sign to receive every dime of the $13mil.

However, the Boys have recourse of two different kinds. First, they can withdraw the tag completely at any time prior to the player signing, making Dez an unrestricted free agent at a time when most teams cannot pay him big money. Second, there is an exception to the fully guaranteed tender once signed, Article 10 Section 2(c) of the CBA states that the contract can be terminated if the player fails to "establish or maintain his excellent physical condition." Any effort by the Boys to do this however, would result in a review of the situation by a neutral physician and eventually and inevitably...arbitration. The Cowboys will definitely not have either option available to them since they clearly know Dez will make much more than $13mil on the open market and Dez is in ridiculous physical condition.

I just hope the two sides get a deal done in the next month that is fair to both sides.
 

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Well I've been one of Dez's biggest supporters but if he does this than I'm done with him. I don't care how great of a WR he is. We haven't won anything with him so far.

We haven't won jack with Romo what's the point?
 

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so I guess that means he will miss training camp also so if a deal isn't done and he misses camp then we wouldknow he will be missing games then
 

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Agreed.

If this does happen, then the season looks like a wash.

Cowboys hand out bad contract after bad contract to certified bums. The 1 time we have a legit superstar, they decide it's time to change their ways.

Dez is no saint either in all this.

Lee's contract really hurt. I said 2 years ago Jerry should extend Dez first and make Lee prove he can stay healthy for a season. It was figured if Lee missed more games due to injury it would lower his price tag. It was figured Dez's price tag would continue to climb with his production increasing every year. The more Jerry keeps waiting on Dez the more it's going to cost to extend him. If he plays on the franchise tag in 2015 and has a monster year that $17M he's asking for could go up to $19-$20M.
 

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None of the other receivers command safety help over the top. You take Dez away from this offense, and teams disregard the passing game and stack the line. They already know they'll need extra men to stop this offensive line from springing one of the Average Joe runners. Take Dez away, and it's run blitz or open season on Tony Romo.

I'm not saying the Cowboys should cave into Dez's demands, but I'd hate to see this offense without Dez because he brings as much to the table as Murray did, and even more so, IMO.

:bow:

Some here believe T-Will and company are good enough, especially with his 8 Td's.

Idk, maybe we should trade Dez for an above average/Good WR.

It looks as if we are not in the business of paying Elite WR's so why keep him?

Go after Cobb, Hilton, Alshon, Hopkins, V Jack, Larry Fitz, Tate, ect.....

Who knows if any of those guys would be made available by their team, and sure they are no where near Dez's talent, but they are good, and why are we holding onto something we don't want to pay?

Might as well go old school, with the Keyshawns and Terry G's of the world and keep average-good WR's, since we want to be cheap.
 

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I wish jerry or Stephen would come out and say well if Dez is gonna sit out games then we will just play without him. And however many games he sits out we will add that many games to it and just leave him inactive. I'd like to see Dez's camps response to that
 

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Lee's contract really hurt. I said 2 years ago Jerry should extend Dez first and make Lee prove he can stay healthy for a season. It was figured if Lee missed more games due to injury it would lower his price tag. It was figured Dez's price tag would continue to climb with his production increasing every year. The more Jerry keeps waiting on Dez the more it's going to cost to extend him. If he plays on the franchise tag in 2015 and has a monster year that $17M he's asking for could go up to $19-$20M.

Agreed bro.
 

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I don't think the fan's reaction will have any effect on Jerry. The fan base has been mad at him for years and he's immune to it.

Agree.

I think another part of the issue is that the agent wants to make the player feel like they are doing everything possible to get the contract done. Headlines and threats to hold out probably make Dez feel important.
 

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I don't begrudge any player trying to get his money. It's his body, his career.
Having said that, I simply can't get worried about stuff like this. It's part of the game. The only people who are going to look out for your best interest are you.
If Dez gets hurt in the service of the Dallas Cowboys, they're not going to continue to pay him the fullness of his contract. So he has to do what he has to do to protect himself or make as much as he can. And I aint gonna hate on him for that.

He's already made more money off his rookie contract than most will make in an entire lifetime. That's why I do not pity any athlete that's getting paid handsomely to play a game for six months out of the year.

If you handle your business and assets, you'll never go without. So go ahead Dez, hold the team that gave you a shot hostage so you can become even richer than you already are.

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