Dez may hold out multiple games-Tom Condon

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I find it interesting that some fans on here actually believe that this team will be fine without Dez Bryant. While I don't believe he will miss a game I also believe the Cowboys need him more than he needs the Cowboys. He can sit out and it not cost him a thing and if the Cowboys do the unthinkable and decide they'd rather be cheap than pay him he'll have zero problems finding a team that wants to pay him what he wants.
 

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You didn't have them winning much of anything WITH Murray and Dez so zip it

Show me some posts where you had the Cowboys winning much of anything entering the 2014 season. Maybe you need to zip it. :thumbup:
 

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I do agree with that. Dez is paying the price for the bad Cowboy decisions of the past.
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I don't think that is really the case. I think Stephen would be managing the cap this way regardless of the past before Jerry had taken a step back.

The Calvin Johnson contract is the biggest problem. It averages over 16M per while the 2nd highest WR contract currently averages 12M per. That is a huge gap. The Cowboys would likely make him the 2nd highest paid WR right now, but are not going to offer him a contract like Calvin Johnson's.

Thomas in Denver is in the same situation.
 

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Dez may decide to retire - Craig

Yeah, sure. I see a bright future as an articulate football analyst and him elucidating to the viewing audience the events surrounding a football play.

If he retires at this point, he might find it in his heart to feel that the $12+ mil he was offered to play a childhood game is not too shabby for a country boy from East Texas, without a college degree.
 
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I love Dez as a player..I do not like him much as a person right now. This kind of money is not reasonable or realistic and smacks of selfishness. When one is making 13-14 million per year, how much difference really is there between this and 16-17 million. Money is money I know, but what has happened to the team player we used to hear about. Hopefully this is Condon again running this up the flag pole to see the reaction from Jerry and Stephen.
 

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I love Dez as a player..I do not like him much as a person right now. This kind of money is not reasonable or realistic and smacks of selfishness. When one is making 13-14 million per year, how much difference really is there between this and 16-17 million. Money is money I know, but what has happened to the team player we used to hear about. Hopefully this is Condon again running this up the flag pole to see the reaction from Jerry and Stephen.

Well, how do you know it's 13-14 they are offering?
 

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with losing demarco murry and if dez Bryant holds out you can pretty much say 8 and8 or worse I was feeling pretty good about this team not so much now. because I am sure hardy will miss at least 6 to 10 games, so yes the cowboys have problems

I do exactly what the Cowboys are doing. Focus on building a top 5 D and then on offense focus on the Oline and the run game. You will be hard pressed to do that paying any WR 17 million per year and then your QB 20 million.
 

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I still dont see the point of this. If a new deal isnt struck by the deadline he cant get a new one. Whats the point of sitting games? This is bad news for us if its true. I personally think its just posturing as they know the cowboys are getting ready to offer something before the deadline.

His stance is he's willing to lose 750 - 800k per game until a deal is worked out. Guess he feels he'll make it up once the long-term deal is signed. The sad thing is he's losing a lot of support from his fan base by threatening a hold out.

I understand that it's a big contract year for him and these opportunities only come around 2 or 3 times in a players career, but posturing such as this is very detrimental not only to himself but to the team. He's going to be a very rich man one way or the other. The question really boils down to where he stands salary-wise amongst the other top receivers in the league and how much is enough for his ego.

Recently being rated the top receiver in the league certainly doesn't bode well for the FO. Funny how that happened all of a sudden, isn't it? I can't help but feel that he would still be rated behind CJ if a deal was already in place, but that's just me.

As much as I hate to say it, if I were part of the Cowboys FO, I would stand firm. No one player is ever greater than the team. Paying him 17M a season could be have far-reaching, long-term effects on the team. If he holds out a substantial amount of time, I'd seriously consider shopping him for nothing less than a 1st and a 2nd. It pains me to say it, but if he stands true to this threat he's placing himself above the team which will only cause internal problems which we can't afford.

In my heart, I feel they'll find some middle ground on all of this. I just wish that Dez would have handled it differently. You can forgive, but you don't forget.
 

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I didn't tell someone with legit points. The guy is never legit he just dumps on everything and everyone. and NOYB btw

This is the internet...you post something it becomes everybody's business. Thinking the opposite is what gets people into trouble.

I will respect your wish though and butt out.
 

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I do exactly what the Cowboys are doing. Focus on building a top 5 D and then on offense focus on the Oline and the run game. You will be hard pressed to do that paying any WR 17 million per year and then your QB 20 million.

I think they are both being greedy. Dez and Romo.
 

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I have a hard time believing this team can win without Murray and Dez. Have the other WR's shown that they can step up and carry the team?

Teams in this league are carried by coaching and QB play. Not running backs and receivers.
 

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I find it interesting that some fans on here actually believe that this team will be fine without Dez Bryant. While I don't believe he will miss a game I also believe the Cowboys need him more than he needs the Cowboys. He can sit out and it not cost him a thing and if the Cowboys do the unthinkable and decide they'd rather be cheap than pay him he'll have zero problems finding a team that wants to pay him what he wants.


I don't see many if any teams looking to pay out 17 mill a year for a WR. Cowboys do need Dez but this team is not just about Dez and doing deal that hurt the future of the team because of 1 man’s ego is ridicules. Det went out and paid CJ a stupid contract and how many SB does Det have? None, it was a dumb deal. I want Dez to sign a long term deal that is fair to him and fair for the Cowboys this is not a 1 sided deal. If push comes to shove then Dez plays with the franchise tag for the next 2 season but Dallas caving in would do more harm than good.
I want Dez and not trying to put him down but there are a lot of teams including SB teams who have won with a lot less at WR so the notion he is irreplaceable is not true.
 

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His stance is he's willing to lose 750 - 800k per game until a deal is worked out. Guess he feels he'll make it up once the long-term deal is signed. The sad thing is he's losing a lot of support from his fan base by threatening a hold out.

Well let's see how many of those same fans that are saying they are giving up on Dez, start cheering and making new threads, the day he actually plays and lights it up.

Hopefully they stand strong, and continue to not support him.
 

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According to some here, it appears Dez should work for less than what he is actually able to get. That would be like me accepting $25.00/hour when I know I can easily get $28.00-30.00/hour.
 

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I don't see many if any teams looking to pay out 17 mill a year for a WR. Cowboys do need Dez but this team is not just about Dez and doing deal that hurt the future of the team because of 1 man’s ego is ridicules. Det went out and paid CJ a stupid contract and how many SB does Det have? None, it was a dumb deal. I want Dez to sign a long term deal that is fair to him and fair for the Cowboys this is not a 1 sided deal. If push comes to shove then Dez plays with the franchise tag for the next 2 season but Dallas caving in would do more harm than good.
I want Dez and not trying to put him down but there are a lot of teams including SB teams who have won with a lot less at WR so the notion he is irreplaceable is not true.

Maybe not 17 million but close enough. No one thought Murray would get close to what he got, either. It all depends on what team wants or think it needs and Dez Bryant is a superstar top 5 player in the NFL.

There are teams that have won with great WRs and without them...I don't get the whole pointing out other teams thing. Every circumstance is different and this team isn't winning much without a running game or legit receiving threat. Not with Jason Garrett as coach.
 
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