Dez Value Question

[zrinkill]

Another drama zone thread by the same bunch of "guys"

 

[jrumann59]

I thought it was interesting when the Colts were dangling TY HIlton before the deadline.

Hilton is great #2 but he is nothing but a garbage time WR in offense that throws it 40+ times a game when Luck is in there.

 

[CWR]

Hilton is great #2 but he is nothing but a garbage time WR in offense that throws it 40+ times a game when Luck is in there.

He led the league last year. Youre right though in that he gets a ton of oppurtunity. I like the speed dimension he adds to an offense.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dez has a huge cap hit and we don't utilize what he can do. We also seem to potentially play better without him.

If the team decided they were willing to part with him:

1. what do you think the trade compensation would be?

2. What would you trade him for and why?

I honestly dont think there would be many takers out there considering his salary. And certainly they wouldnt give you more than a 3rd. An overpaid receiver on the downside of his career? Not sure there is much value there.

I would 100% trade him or even think about releasing him after this season. Money needs to be spend on defense at this point. We are a running team and Dak seems just fine with other receivers. Now we would need to go out and get a receiver, but doesnt have to be a total stud. Plenty of quality veteran receivers out there. I would be more inclined to draft a young back that can keep the running game top notch in the event that Zeke is out.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Hilton is great #2 but he is nothing but a garbage time WR in offense that throws it 40+ times a game when Luck is in there.

I would take Hilton over Dez 10 times out of 10.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He led the league last year. Youre right though in that he gets a ton of oppurtunity. I like the speed dimension he adds to an offense.

Hilton is a great #1 receiver.

 

[The Natural]

I would take Hilton over Dez 10 times out of 10.

Hilton is a looter in a riot, not better than Dez.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Mods,

Sincere question...isn’t there some forum rule against trolling? Because this exactly what the OP is doing chronically now with these Dez threads. Dude should be put on vacation.

 

[gimmesix]

Dez has a huge cap hit and we don't utilize what he can do. We also seem to potentially play better without him.

If the team decided they were willing to part with him:

1. what do you think the trade compensation would be?

2. What would you trade him for and why?

I'd prefer that he and Dak work to take advantage of what Dez does best. Replacing a No. 1 receiver isn't as easy as many seem to make it out to be. If we are a playoff team this year, which we look to be, then we're going to be drafting near the bottom of the first round.

There were no receivers taken this year in the bottom of the first, but three taken last year — Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22) and Laquon Treadwell (23). We can even throw in Corey Coleman (taken 15th).

Fuller has 15 receptions for 311 yards and 7 TDs this year. Doctson has 11 for 189 and 3. Treadwell has 12 for 142 and 0. Coleman has 6 for 62 and 1 (but has only played in two games). Dez has 38 for 439 and 4.

If you're happy with the receiving corps we've got (outside of Dez), then trading him might make sense. However, I believe that corps would not be as good without him. Defenses would adjust their coverage and it would be a lot more difficult on our passing game.

Dez is 29 so I'm all for working to find his replacement, but I would not be willing to let him go until someone proves that they can be a No. 1 receiver.

 

[dallasdave]

 

[perrykemp]

Hilton is great #2 but he is nothing but a garbage time WR in offense that throws it 40+ times a game when Luck is in there.

Hilton is just a WR2? He led the NFL in yards receiving in 2016.

He is on pace for his 5th straight 1000+ yard season, averages 16 yards per reception, and missed only 2 games in his 6 year career.

 

[erod]

The only way to trade Dez is to pay half his salary.

 

[EST_1986]

Can we make a Verdict Zone where he can go ***** and complain alone about Dez and Taco?

 

[CWR]

Id have to say hes worth at least 6 - 1st rounders. Hes a Jerry Rice, Randy Moss type dude so yeah. Flame on.

 

[CF74]

 

[Section446]

Dez has a huge cap hit and we don't utilize what he can do. We also seem to potentially play better without him.

If the team decided they were willing to part with him:

1. what do you think the trade compensation would be?

2. What would you trade him for and why?

He has very little trade value, we might get a third and a fifth for him. He's just not very good... Nobody will do it though.

 

[Verdict]

Id have to say hes worth at least 6 - 1st rounders. Hes a Jerry Rice, Randy Moss type dude so yeah. Flame on.

I think you are confusing Dez with someone who can actually play at a high level consistently.

 

[Verdict]

Hilton is just a WR2? He led the NFL in yards receiving in 2016.

He is on pace for his 5th straight 1000+ yard season, averages 16 yards per reception, and missed only 2 games in his 6 year career.

T.Y is twice the receiver Dez is.

 

[Verdict]

I'd prefer that he and Dak work to take advantage of what Dez does best. Replacing a No. 1 receiver isn't as easy as many seem to make it out to be. If we are a playoff team this year, which we look to be, then we're going to be drafting near the bottom of the first round.

There were no receivers taken this year in the bottom of the first, but three taken last year — Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22) and Laquon Treadwell (23). We can even throw in Corey Coleman (taken 15th).

Fuller has 15 receptions for 311 yards and 7 TDs this year. Doctson has 11 for 189 and 3. Treadwell has 12 for 142 and 0. Coleman has 6 for 62 and 1 (but has only played in two games). Dez has 38 for 439 and 4.

If you're happy with the receiving corps we've got (outside of Dez), then trading him might make sense. However, I believe that corps would not be as good without him. Defenses would adjust their coverage and it would be a lot more difficult on our passing game.

Dez is 29 so I'm all for working to find his replacement, but I would not be willing to let him go until someone proves that they can be a No. 1 receiver.

Fuller is a beast. I would trade him for Dez straight up, no compensation and give thanks that I got rid of whiner with such an albatross of a contract. Come to think of it, I would do the same with Doctson. I wouldn't touch Treadwell. A guy has to have some standards. Dez is better than him. Treadwell has bust written all over him. Treadwell does have better cap numbers but you don't want to take on the contract of a guy that can't play at all.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

At some point this has to be bench worthy.