Dez's stats thus far

[Muhast]

I think part of the issue is that T.Williams isn't very good. Nobody is scared of him at all. Teams focus most of their attention on Dez and Witten and Williams can't get open. He has been largely nonexistent since the catch in Seattle. To those bringing up Jordy Nelson, let's see Dez with Randall Cobb opposite of him(not a slight on Jordy at all, more of a statement of how much better the other WR in GB is than in Dallas. If you put Randall Cobb on our offense, we'd see a lot more 1 on 1 opportunities bc they wouldn't double team Dez as much as they currently do)

He should be running wild on teams with the amount of attention those two see. I am not sold on Williams, I think we should seriously consider looking for an upgrade there. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Muhast]

Our play calling with routes is still pretty poor imo.

Put Dez in the slot, put him in motion. Use bunch formations. Crossing routes. Whatever you need to do. We just seem content leaving him on an island and sending him on comeback routes most of the game.

 

[Frozen700]

No they don't surprise me.

He's the #1 WR on a run oriented team.

I have zero issue with his play.

This....

 

[Frozen700]

If We lose Dez, hopefully he goes to a real team/ a team that is not scared to throw the ball and is actually creative, like the Pats, Colts or hell even the Eagles. Then you will see what type of stats he puts up, and the success they have.

Then we will see who gets the blame next.

 

[Zman5]

Dez is a power guy and not a quick/speed guy. It boggles my mind why we have him run routes where he has to stop and get going again majority of the time. He should be running routes where we get the ball to him while he is moving.

Guys like Dez who aren't quck require more time to stop and get going again but he is so powerful that once he is moving, he is almost impossible to stop by one guy.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Our play calling with routes is still pretty poor imo.

Put Dez in the slot, put him in motion. Use bunch formations. Crossing routes. Whatever you need to do. We just seem content leaving him on an island and sending him on comeback routes most of the game.

Yup, it's like they think he's not big enough to go on slants or in the middle. Yet that's where they send 5 foot eight Beasley.

 

[TimHortons]

This scheme does not get recievers open. There are only 2 ways a receiver can get open in this scheme: either he flat out beats the defender with physical ability, as we see Dez often do, or Romo runs around the field and a receiver eventually comes open (ala Game winning score vs Giants). Rarely, RARELY, does a receiver get open due to creative route structure. The only player I can think of that gets open is Beasley, even Witten doesn't get open due to scheme very often, he benefits from Romo's ability to create time in the pocket and LB matcheups, and even then we can see Witten having a down year (although that is partly due to the running game). If you watch the Broncos, Patriots, packers, chargers, Eagles, or Colts, recievers get open because of creative route combinations and creative pre snap movement/formations. We do not have that dimension to our offense.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Sign him, keep him in Dallas.

 

[Blackspider214]

Why is everyone bringing up double, press and bracket coverage? You think this is some new concept to WRs? All the good WRs face this every week. Sounds like excuses to me.

When it comes down to it, Dez is talented but leaves a lot to be desired. He can be taken out of a game way too easily. He will disappear for halves at a time.

He's been here 5 seasons so far and has yet to transcend this offense.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Receptions: 67 (13th)
Yards: 952 (10th)
YPC: 14.2 (36th)
TDs: 10 (3rd)
20+ yard receiptions: 14 (12th)
YAC: 294 (31st)

He's having a solid year, but no where near what he is asking for. I've seen people on the board say he is the #2 WR behind Calvin Johnson, but I don't see it. Do these stats surprise you?

The value in Dez extends past his stats.

 

[perrykemp]

I think part of the issue is that T.Williams isn't very good. Nobody is scared of him at all. Teams focus most of their attention on Dez and Witten and Williams can't get open. He has been largely nonexistent since the catch in Seattle. To those bringing up Jordy Nelson, let's see Dez with Randall Cobb opposite of him(not a slight on Jordy at all, more of a statement of how much better the other WR in GB is than in Dallas. If you put Randall Cobb on our offense, we'd see a lot more 1 on 1 opportunities bc they wouldn't double team Dez as much as they currently do)

Maybe the Cowboys need to consider drafting WRs instead of TEs in the 2nd round every other year or so. It's a passing league and if you have an elite QB (like Romo has been the past decade) it's the front-office's obligations to give that QB an wide array of receivers to throw the ball to:

Look at the compare contrast in the Cowboy's philosophy of taking TEs in the 2nd round since 2006 vs the Packers philosphy of taking WRs in the 2nd round:

Cowboys

2006 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Anthony Fasano
2008 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Marty Bennett
2013 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Gavin Escobar

Packers

2006 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Greg Jennings
2008 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Jordy Nelson
2011 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Randall Cobb
2014 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Davonte Adams

 

[birdwells1]

I've come to the recent opinion that the Cowboy's lack of consistent production from WR#2 and WR#3 is hurting the offense overall as well as hurting Dez specifically. You need to make teams pay for doubling WR#1, especially considering the Cowboys have a RB on pace for almost 2000 yards, and that's not happening.

I 100% agree with you, it's the same problem we ran into with TO, double Dez and let them try to beat you with the other wrs. We have got to get someone that will make them pay for playing us that way.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Run based offense. The important number to me is touchdowns.

Also we all agree Calvin is the best WR in football. Couldn't tell by his numbers. Same with Aj. To an extent Julio as well.

These guys must all be bottom of the top 10 right?

Or we could use nuance and think critically.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Dez is a great WR, but he is not the best WR in the NFL and the fact that Dez has turned down multiple offers from the Cowboys tell me they don't think he is the best WR in the NFL either.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Dez is a great WR, but he is not the best WR in the NFL and the fact that Dez has turned down multiple offers from the Cowboys tell me they don't think he is the best WR in the NFL either.

Or he wants out of Dallas. He has to have in the back of his mind that Romo is about done.

 

[Staubacher]

Sorry, but they aren't triple teaming him. At most, they have a safety over the top, but a lot of teams do that anyways. You think Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Julio Jones, or any other top receiver doesn't see the same type of coverage?

Yup and Julio Jones OWNED Patrick Peterson yesterday while Dez was completely shut down. Yes it was Weeden throwing the ball but also Atlanta did not have their #2 WR in the game.

All 3 guys you mentioned are better than Dez as pure WRs.

 

[Staubacher]

Maybe the Cowboys need to consider drafting WRs instead of TEs in the 2nd round every other year or so. It's a passing league and if you have an elite QB (like Romo has been the past decade) it's the front-office's obligations to give that QB an wide array of receivers to throw the ball to:

Look at the compare contrast in the Cowboy's philosophy of taking TEs in the 2nd round since 2006 vs the Packers philosphy of taking WRs in the 2nd round:

Cowboys

2006 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Anthony Fasano
2008 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Marty Bennett
2013 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Gavin Escobar

Packers

2006 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Greg Jennings
2008 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Jordy Nelson
2011 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Randall Cobb
2014 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Davonte Adams

Ouch that hurts

 

[YosemiteSam]

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Dez is a great WR, but he is not the best WR in the NFL and the fact that Dez has turned down multiple offers from the Cowboys tell me they don't think he is the best WR in the NFL either.

Nobody has called Dez the best WR in football. But after Calvin he is in the conversation. And that's the point.

But don't let hyperbole get in the way if making a point!

 

[stilltheguru]

If We lose Dez, hopefully he goes to a real team/ a team that is not scared to throw the ball and is actually creative, like the Pats, Colts or hell even the Eagles. Then you will see what type of stats he puts up, and the success they have.

Then we will see who gets the blame next.

Some people on here make me want to see that scenario badly.