Dez's stats thus far

[CowboyGil]

Maybe the Cowboys need to consider drafting WRs instead of TEs in the 2nd round every other year or so. It's a passing league and if you have an elite QB (like Romo has been the past decade) it's the front-office's obligations to give that QB an wide array of receivers to throw the ball to:

Look at the compare contrast in the Cowboy's philosophy of taking TEs in the 2nd round since 2006 vs the Packers philosphy of taking WRs in the 2nd round:

Cowboys

2006 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Anthony Fasano
2008 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Marty Bennett
2013 Cowboys 2nd Round Pick: Gavin Escobar

Packers

2006 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Greg Jennings
2008 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Jordy Nelson
2011 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Randall Cobb
2014 Packers 2nd Round Pick: Davonte Adams

Point? I think Rodgers has alot to do with making his receivers look good. Cowboys have a solid WR/TE corps for a run based team.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Did you live under power lines as a kid?

no, why do you ask? It was in the country and we half butane and propane.

 

[Jerryrage]

OK, here is a conspiracy terry: Jerra half a late-nite meeting with Jason and his O coordinator, somewhere in Deep Ellum. And Jerra say to Jason, he say: "Listen, old Red, Dez is gonna want a lot of money. How do we thwart this? We thwart this by not thowing to him too often. thow him the ball in his gut, not high. Then, when the money talks comes around we can say, 'Dez, mein man, yo numbers do not match the monies you want.'
And Jason say, he say: "It's a process, Jerra, but I git what you means, wink-wink"
Then they all go out to the Golden Corral and half dessert and sign autographs and make inside jokes about what just transpirated.

Pretty good tin foil until I looked back at the Roy Williams WR deal. Draft picks first, third and sixth round pick in 2009 and a 6 year, $54 million contract, along with $26 million guaranteed.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Pretty good tin foil until I looked back at the Roy Williams WR deal. Draft picks first, third and sixth round pick in 2009 and a 6 year, $54 million contract, along with $26 million guaranteed.

In my next life i would like to be Roy and Tony and be able to afford steak ever night and vacation in Branson. They half good shows there and are building a old west saloon where there are staged fights. Man that is the life.

Well this is a good thread but the library lady say my time is up.
goodbye and i will look at this thread tomorow.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Pretty good tin foil until I looked back at the Roy Williams WR deal. Draft picks first, third and sixth round pick in 2009 and a 6 year, $54 million contract, along with $26 million guaranteed.

Please don't remind me. That deal set our franchise back.

By the time he was released Roy was 8th in receiving on our team despite playing 10 games. He had less receiving yards than Tashard Choice (a backup RB) and Martellus Bennet (a backup TE).

 

[Beast_from_East]

Because they were 30+ and assuredly on the decline?

Which is almost the exact opposite for Dez?

Do you know how many proposals are passed back and forth between team and agent before a deal is ever reached? Do you know each time one side passed a deal to the other if asked they'd say they offered a "nice contract" to the other side? Think 100 percent of the time.

It's embarrassing you believe anything about negotiations from what either side says publicly.

What is embarrassing is you thinking Demarcus Ware is "assuredly on the decline"..............LMAO

33 tackles............10 sacks...............2 forced fumbles................1 interception


As a team, we have 19 sacks so Ware has more than 50% of our teams total sack count.......................yea, he really looks like he is on the decline, even Broaddus has said that when he talks to his guys in the front office that they even admit that they "miss evaluated" Ware.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

YAC is surprising honestly.

Rest isn't.

 

[johnson2]

when your running back has 400 more yards than 2nd place.....

 

[NeonDeion21]

Let's compare Dez to Antonio Brown for a moment. I see many people saying that Brown is now better than Dez because, well stats. Let's look at them in context.

Antonio Brown has 96 catches for 1,258 yards and 11 TDs.

The Steelers have thrown the ball 474 times.

Pretty good. But again, let's look at that in context.

Dez Bryant has 67 catches for 952 yards and 10 TDs.

The Cowboys have thrown the ball 364 times.

The Steelers have thrown the ball 110 more times than Dallas. Tony Romo has averaged 29.5 attempts per game in 2014. By the end of the season, Romo might throw 474 times. I'm willing to bet Dez's stats look very similar to Brown's now by the end of the year. Bryant is in a very run heavy offense. Brown is in a very pass heavy offense. This isn't too hard.

 

[maxdallasfan]

Do we ever see WRs just running free in this offense in a game because of scheme? When we do, it's often because of Romo just buying time with his feet and free-wheeling by WRs. I remember the Denver game last year when Dez was killing off the short drag route across the middle of the field, but we seem, at least from perception, to have pretty much disregarded it.

Agree.

It seems every catch is the hardest one to make, being draped by corners, or hit by 2 or 3 guys.

We rarely see guys wide open with an easy catch.

Our scheme sucks.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

What is embarrassing is you thinking Demarcus Ware is "assuredly on the decline"..............LMAO

33 tackles............10 sacks...............2 forced fumbles................1 interception


As a team, we have 19 sacks so Ware has more than 50% of our teams total sack count.......................yea, he really looks like he is on the decline, even Broaddus has said that when he talks to his guys in the front office that they even admit that they "miss evaluated" Ware.

Ware is on the wrong side of 30 and was injured back to back years.

He plays on a team that is constantly playing with the lead.

He is absolutely on the decline.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

Agree.

It seems every catch is the hardest one to make, being draped by corners, or hit by 2 or 3 guys.

We rarely see guys wide open with an easy catch.

Our scheme sucks.

Agreed 100%........
Being somewhat facetious here but in my more athletic days I could do a decent job of covering our WRs, I would have to prepare for a healthy dose of comebacks, the occasional post and go routes that's it. No imagination whatsoever. I really think this is hamstringing their numbers.

 

[maxdallasfan]

Agreed 100%........
Being somewhat facetious here but in my more athletic days I could do a decent job of covering our WRs, I would have to prepare for a healthy dose of comebacks, the occasional post and go routes that's it. No imagination whatsoever. I really think this is hamstringing their numbers.

This is my whole argument against throwing huge money at Dez. Sure, we'll have a good WR, but his potential will never reach a peak with this system in place.

This team, this offense, needs a top 5 D to take it over the hump unless something drastic changes next season.

 

[TimHortons]

Somebody name the last "elite" receiver to win a Super Bowl.

Probably Reggie Wayne with the Colts. Was Harrison on that team as well? Can't remember

 

[perrykemp]

Probably Reggie Wayne with the Colts. Was Harrison on that team as well? Can't remember

I'd say Marvin Harrison was the top 5 (let's use the loose definition of elite) WR who was Top 5 at the time his team won the Superbowl.

That was in 2006. Before that you might need to go back to Isaac Bruce in 2000.

 

[TheCount]

How is his blocking?

I am still trying to figure out why the heck he left his feet, he was just asking to get body slammed. It's like he thought launching himself would give him more power to push back against Evans, bad decision.

 

[TheCount]

Point? I think Rodgers has alot to do with making his receivers look good. Cowboys have a solid WR/TE corps for a run based team.

I think the point is that we are dumping those high picks into TE's, which we don't use.

Yeah, Rodgers definitely is the engine of that offense. Still, we are spending resources on guys that are like the 5th option on a given play - when they even see the field.

I don't think anyone would care about spending those 2nd's on TE's if they were actually part of the offense.