DFW-Gosselin: It's surprising the Cowboys neglected their two biggest needs

[Galian Beast]

People need to start realizing that we can't sign every veteran free agent out there. Even at the vet minimum these guys cost too much. As it is, even carrying money over for future years, it will be hard to pay guys like Dez and Carter and Claiborne...

If you guys did a spreadsheet as the cowboys accounting certainly does, they go over not just the money we have this year, but the money we have in future years...

At some point you have to develop your own players through the draft.

And speaking of the draft just because you want to draft a position doesn't mean that you see the value there. Look at their draft board and see if there were some linemen that you think they liked that were rated higher than the players they took. Most people are still complaining about Floyd, but he strikes me as a player who didn't fit the scheme at all. Another Spears esque kind of player, with extremely limited pass rush potential.

 

[ConstantReboot]

The main reason why Jerry and Co. does not want to address the Oline and Dline is that they want to show the public that they know what their doing. By addressing the oline or dline, means that they were wrong all along. They don't want to be told that they were wrong. I know it sounds stupid, but they are being stupid for not addressing it sooner.

 

[rwalters31]

We neglected our two biggest needs, but it's sure as Sunday not surprising. Heck, I've come to expect it.

Sad, very sad! The reason why the Cowboys will not be going back to the SB far awhile.

 

[rwalters31]

The main reason why Jerry and Co. does not want to address the Oline and Dline is that they want to show the public that they know what their doing. By addressing the oline or dline, means that they were wrong all along. They don't want to be told that they were wrong. I know it sounds stupid, but they are being stupid for not addressing it sooner.

But Ol and DL does not sell Jerseys! You have to think like Jerry!

 

[Fredd]

Let's call a spade a spade here...had they gone out and used resources (picks and fa money) on the lines, then many of you would be complaining that our CB situation is horrible or that we don't have enough WR's or TE's for Tony to throw to...you can't fix EVERYTHING in one or two off seasons, but they are doing a good job of it in my opinion...besides, with all of the whining about the OL from many of you, there is turnover on 3 of 5, and if Free is the RG, technically, it is 4 out of 5...how much more can they do? also, on the DL, you have a very good front 4 when Ratliff is in there, and they had some depth there before losing a guy or two for various reasons....I pat the team on the back for recognizing that guys like Lissemore don't fit the scheme so time to move on...in the past, we would have kept guys like that around for a long while....yes, we are thin on both lines, but transitions take time

 

[waving monkey]

The main reason why Jerry and Co. does not want to address the Oline and Dline is that they want to show the public that they know what their doing. By addressing the oline or dline, means that they were wrong all along. They don't want to be told that they were wrong. I know it sounds stupid, but they are being stupid for not addressing it sooner.

this is silliness

 

[BAZ]

They didn't neglect the O-line, they tried to sign a couple of retired vets and came up short.

D-line is a head scratcher, they find out Ratliff is out for who knows how long so they trade Lissemore, he may suit the 3-4 better than the 4-3, but I know for a fact he is better than the nobody left at DT.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

The main reason why Jerry and Co. does not want to address the Oline and Dline is that they want to show the public that they know what their doing. By addressing the oline or dline, means that they were wrong all along. They don't want to be told that they were wrong. I know it sounds stupid, but they are being stupid for not addressing it sooner.

Haha, give me a break. People can't actually believe this kind of nonsense.

 

[TNCowboy]

Fraley: I think the interior on both sides of the ball is substandard. The offensive line, I think again, is a big problem, and I don’t see where the defensive front is there to play the Monte Kiffin defense. I don’t see the depth there. I don’t see the personnel there. I think they’re weak on both sides of the ball up front. That to me is somewhat surprising.

This sums up the team, and its outlook for the season, perfectly, in a few sentences.

 

[Rockytop6]

I guess Gosselin doesn't think we could trade or pick up some cut vets we have an eye on.

Maybe they will but Gosselin and Fraley were addressing the present condition and of course we are hopeful they will pick up somebody but they haven't done it yet.

 

[Ren]

People need to start realizing that we can't sign every veteran free agent out there. Even at the vet minimum these guys cost too much. As it is, even carrying money over for future years, it will be hard to pay guys like Dez and Carter and Claiborne...

If you guys did a spreadsheet as the cowboys accounting certainly does, they go over not just the money we have this year, but the money we have in future years...

At some point you have to develop your own players through the draft.

And speaking of the draft just because you want to draft a position doesn't mean that you see the value there. Look at their draft board and see if there were some linemen that you think they liked that were rated higher than the players they took. Most people are still complaining about Floyd, but he strikes me as a player who didn't fit the scheme at all. Another Spears esque kind of player, with extremely limited pass rush potential.

I don't get this obsession with value i don't think either Escobar or Williams will be contributers this year and i don't think either one are special talents that you can't afford to pass up, guys like that come along every year. Most people get that we don't have the resources to sign every big name FA out there, that's why we have to spend what we do have wiser a 2nd TE and a #3 WR are luxury picks good teams can make we're not that good and thanks to picks like that we probably won't be this year either. We should draft like a 8-8 team not a 12-4 team without major weaknesses, come January we're more then likely still talking about how we need to address the lines for the 4th straight year and that's the reason we're stuck in mediocrity.

 

[sbark]

For a 7th, we shoulda' kept Lissamore for depth, but I presume Marranelli has it under control/ a plan.

Hate to see DLine get worn down, then the OLines get into our LB'rs and injuries mount again

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I don't care what Gosselin or Fraley think, about anything.

Yup.

That read reminded me of my gram and pap talking about world politics when neither of them had set foot outside their own country. Fraley and Goose should stick to talking about something they know such as scrapbooking.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I agree with him that they're very thin there and it's pretty surprising they haven't picked anyone up for those spots. But that doesn't mean they won't at some point but I do agree with him on this.

 

[Miller]

I don't care about those two guys but they are right. They neglected it in the draft after Frederick and they have neglected it overall. Honestly I don't take too much stock in anything preseason but if that Houston game showed anything it is that or lines are weak when it comes to depth.

 

[Galian Beast]

I don't get this obsession with value i don't think either Escobar or Williams will be contributers this year and i don't think either one are special talents that you can't afford to pass up, guys like that come along every year. Most people get that we don't have the resources to sign every big name FA out there, that's why we have to spend what we do have wiser a 2nd TE and a #3 WR are luxury picks good teams can make we're not that good and thanks to picks like that we probably won't be this year either. We should draft like a 8-8 team not a 12-4 team without major weaknesses, come January we're more then likely still talking about how we need to address the lines for the 4th straight year and that's the reason we're stuck in mediocrity.

They aren't luxury pieces, and that's what you failed to understand. Look at the top offenses in the nfl, and you see they are dynamic with multiple options. We had three options, Dez, Miles, and Jason. That's why you end up getting yards but not points. You give Romo even the slightest skill in an extra option and he has one of his best years ever (laurent robinson).

Special talents? You think every player is going to be a pro bowler. They were drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. The same people were saying that Sean Lee and Bruce Carter weren't good draft picks, and weren't special. Now they're the cornerstone of our defense...

 

[conner01]

these types of article would be much better if they named the better player we could go out and sign right now

 

[Dwight]

I don't get this obsession with value i don't think either Escobar or Williams will be contributers this year and i don't think either one are special talents that you can't afford to pass up, guys like that come along every year. Most people get that we don't have the resources to sign every big name FA out there, that's why we have to spend what we do have wiser a 2nd TE and a #3 WR are luxury picks good teams can make we're not that good and thanks to picks like that we probably won't be this year either. We should draft like a 8-8 team not a 12-4 team without major weaknesses, come January we're more then likely still talking about how we need to address the lines for the 4th straight year and that's the reason we're stuck in mediocrity.

Don't bother wasting your time. Some fans don't get how important an online and dline is. Come next offseason, management will sign and draft more DBs and TEs. Those same fans will be satisfied until reality sinks in.

 

[ccb04]

People need to start realizing that we can't sign every veteran free agent out there. Even at the vet minimum these guys cost too much. As it is, even carrying money over for future years, it will be hard to pay guys like Dez and Carter and Claiborne...

If you guys did a spreadsheet as the cowboys accounting certainly does, they go over not just the money we have this year, but the money we have in future years...

At some point you have to develop your own players through the draft.

And speaking of the draft just because you want to draft a position doesn't mean that you see the value there. Look at their draft board and see if there were some linemen that you think they liked that were rated higher than the players they took. Most people are still complaining about Floyd, but he strikes me as a player who didn't fit the scheme at all. Another Spears esque kind of player, with extremely limited pass rush potential.

GB, not sure if this was directed at me for mentioning Idonije. In any event, I certainly realize that they can't sign every vet FA out there. I also realize they have to carry money forward, etc...though teams often seem to manage some wiggle room. I was on the Idonije bandwagon for quite some time, as he simply seemed to make too much sense with transitioning to the 4-3 T2. I think they could've managed the contract he got (only half of which was guaranteed). Just my opinion though.

I agree 110% that the best way to build is through the draft. I wasn't disappointed with the trade down because guys like Warmack, Cooper, etc. were already gone...and like many, those were among the guys I really liked. While it certainly doesn't mean he won't go on to be very good, I personally wasn't a big fan of Floyd as a 3-tech in the Tampa 2. Spears was far more productive than Floyd in the SEC as a pass rusher, with both having played inside & outside. IIRC, of Floyd's 4.5 career sacks...2 came in the final game of his career.

 

[jjktkk]

I don't get this obsession with value i don't think either Escobar or Williams will be contributers this year and i don't think either one are special talents that you can't afford to pass up, guys like that come along every year. Most people get that we don't have the resources to sign every big name FA out there, that's why we have to spend what we do have wiser a 2nd TE and a #3 WR are luxury picks good teams can make we're not that good and thanks to picks like that we probably won't be this year either. We should draft like a 8-8 team not a 12-4 team without major weaknesses, come January we're more then likely still talking about how we need to address the lines for the 4th straight year and that's the reason we're stuck in mediocrity.

Because drafting for need is a recipe for disaster.