Did you guys know Romo though 09-16 won 15 games?

SlammedZero · Jan 25, 2020

Outside of Parcells, seeing that he was tethered to Garrett almost his entire career as either OC or HC tells me everything I need to know. He gets a pass from me on that alone.

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
Romo never had a line under Parcells?

Flozell, Leonard Davis, Rivera, Gurode, Colombo.....

Although it fell apart very quickly, Romo had a line 07 midway through 09, when it fell apart. Down the stretch in 09, that line was horrid, and was even worse in the playoffs. And good ol' Jerry fixed it by trading up for a WR and taking stiff Sam Young in the 6th round. He didn't even notice how bad it was, our great GM!!!

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2020

Mr_V said:
It means he was surrounded by trash players on both sides of the ball.

But you know that’s not true lol.

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
Where do you guys keep getting this stupid sabotage theory from? Wade has been fired from every stop he's been at so was he sabotaged every stop?

Yeah, that might be the most incredibly stupid narrative ever posted. Amazing that people keep reiterating something so stupid.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2020

fairviewfarmer said:
Yes he was sabotaged by losses at every stop.....

Right lol. Those losses can’t believe they did him in lol.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2020

kskboys said:
Yeah, that might be the most incredibly stupid narrative ever posted. Amazing that people keep reiterating something so stupid.

Right. Those defenses got bad. Wade only had one job to do. That was coach defense. If his defense sucked what good was he?

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2020

kskboys said:
Although it fell apart very quickly, Romo had a line 07 midway through 09, when it fell apart. Down the stretch in 09, that line was horrid, and was even worse in the playoffs. And good ol' Jerry fixed it by trading up for a WR and taking stiff Sam Young in the 6th round. He didn't even notice how bad it was, our great GM!!!

He did have some bad lines. But the narrative he didn’t have a line is a myth. Those Nate Livings and Bernadeau.......those were bad but Romo didn’t have that his whole career.

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
Right. Those defenses got bad. Wade only had one job to do. That was coach defense. If his defense sucked what good was he?

Due to not maintaining order and not insisting on keeping the players in shape, the players quite simply were out of shape and started folding at the end of games and season.

If anyone sabotaged Wade, it was Jerry by not allowing him to maintain order and discipline. Don't forget, Wade tried to fine his players for being late, Jerry rescinded the fines.

mattjames2010 · Jan 25, 2020

The OP once told me that once a player leaves the Cowboys, he hates them.

It's beyond homerism. So that means once Dak leaves the Cowboys, he will no longer like them. He has also badmouthed Aikman lol

Javier · Jan 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
By the looks of the list......seems like maybe Romo wasted some of Garrett's years too.
I ask this because Dak gets the credit for this teams lack of wins against playoff teams this year. But Dak had the same head coach as Garrett......yet....its Dak's fault?

Different teams, different league, but the same HC who iced his kicker and punt on 4th down against the Texans.

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
He did have some bad lines. But the narrative he didn’t have a line is a myth. Those Nate Livings and Bernadeau.......

He didn't have a line from late 09 thru 12. I'll never forget pass rushers coming right up the middle at the snap when Ole' Costa was standing there. (I'm not willing to say playing, because it didn't resemble "playing").

Brax · Jan 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
Against winning teams?

Does this mean anything?

I wonder why this Romo- Dak thing just goes on and on. No one should care what Romo did, Troy, White, Roger,Morton, Meredith did or didn't do, for some reason it keeps being thrown out to some how justify what Dak is or isn't. The last line of Dak homer-ism is always (insert any former DC QB but mainly Romo) this or (Romo )that when all else fails. If someone liked Romo does that somehow make that person a Dak hater? If someone didn't like Romo does that make someone a Dak lover? And if you did or didn't like both what does that make you? Just curious if you could post what his Wins against Teams with winning records look like his first 4 years as a starter 2006-2009. Thanks

JW82 · Jan 25, 2020

Yes. He was coachless.

rocyaice said:
Against winning teams?

Does this mean anything?

Silly · Jan 25, 2020

I thought the first years of Romo's career that the cowboys were in cap hell because of the triplets hangover?

If it were not for the fluke on Romo's hold, he would have won a super bowl.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2020

kskboys said:
He didn't have a line from late 09 thru 12. I'll never forget pass rushers coming right up the middle at the snap when Ole' Costa was standing there. (I'm not willing to say playing, because it didn't resemble "playing").

I’d probably say 2009 to 11. No one is arguing he had a great line. But Eli didn’t have great lines.....Aaron Rodgers didn’t early on. There were ways to produce while having a average line. It took coaching. Romo was not good enough to compensate for a bad offensive line. He needed players around him.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2020

Brax said:
I wonder why this Romo- Dak thing just goes on and on. No one should care what Romo did, Troy, White, Roger,Morton, Meredith did or didn't do, for some reason it keeps being thrown out to some how justify what Dak is or isn't. The last line of Dak homer-ism is always (insert any former DC QB but mainly Romo) this or (Romo )that when all else fails. If someone liked Romo does that somehow make that person a Dak hater? If someone didn't like Romo does that make someone a Dak lover? And if you did or didn't like both what does that make you? Just curious if you could post what his Wins against Teams with winning records look like his first 4 years as a starter 2006-2009. Thanks

I don’t know what they were. Being they sucked most of those years except 2007 I’d assume the records were bad.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2020

Silly said:
I thought the first years of Romo's career that the cowboys were in cap hell because of the triplets hangover?

If it were not for the fluke on Romo's hold, he would have won a super bowl.

How did you come to that conclusion? That team was not good enough to win a Super Bowl.

NumOneQB · Jan 25, 2020

How many playoff wins?

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2020

JW82 said:
Yes. He was coachless.

So Aaron has that many because he had a coach?

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · Jan 25, 2020

rocyaice said:
Against winning teams?

That's the results of pass happy play calling. Romo was good but not elite. When you go pass happy with a non-elite QB you'd better have a great defense to bail you out of some bad situations. We just had an 8-8 season from going pass happy with a non-elite QB.

Play good special teams. Play good defense. And maintain balance on offense. Dallas didn't do that during the Romo years and now they're not doing it with Dak. Playing complementary football is on the coaches. I hope Mike McCarthy understands that.

Did you guys know Romo though 09-16 won 15 games?

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