Different kind of Dak thread

[shabazz]

What we should be debating is , " Is it Romo/Dak or is it the ineptitude of the FO?"

Because if the answer is the latter, we've just wasted the last 16 years debating the QBs for nothing.

 

[acr731]

The bigger issue is not necessarily moving on from Dak. It is the fact they GM Jethro has no replacement plan.

Maybe Lance is the replacement plan. If that is the case, I don't understand the reasoning. He has little to no time on the field and has already been injured twice, including a fractured ankle in 2022. I understand wanting to move on from Dak, and include me in that camp, but anointing Lance as the future of the franchise would be insane, especially since he hasn't take a snap in a live game since September 2022. But if we think back to 2016, we had the same thoughts about Dak taking over for Romo, and then it happened.

 

[CowboyoWales]

What we should be debating is , " Is it Romo/Dak or is it the ineptitude of the FO?"

They arent mutually exclusive. Whether you/we want to apportion weighting is asinine.
If you wanted to please all: Jerry can't build a team, Romo can't see out a game and Dak can't work under pressure.

 

[foofighters]

I have been thinking about the Dak divide of this fan base. I have referred to it in other threads. But one thing I notice that really hasn’t been discussed with any sort of depth is the analysis of the schools of thought regarding the various positions.

For instance you have the pro-Dak, anti Dak’s and those in between. Obviously there is evidence to support the anti-Dak crowd’s position. And it rationally follows that there is a reasonable basis for those that are somewhere in between.

But what I have a harder time understanding are the die hard Dak proponents that want Dak re-signed for essentially whatever he wants. There is obviously no merit to a point of view that refuses to acknowledge that at times Dak has played pretty poorly, especially big/important/playoff games. I don’t see how anyone could allege the contrary with a straight face.

They act like the entire Cowboys organization would cease to exist if Dak isn’t signed at whatever cost it takes. How does a person come to such a conclusion? Blind fandom? Fourteen years old with a complete lack of objectivity? A lack of understanding of the salary cap? Inability to reason?

I’m not trying to insult posters with that viewpoint. What makes the pro-Dak crowd ignore what most people consider relevant facts to come to their conclusions. It seems like these posters are the most entrenched in vitriol towards other posters as well?

What makes people be so hateful over discussions on a message board? It is as if someone else’s opinion amounts to an attack on the player directly, or a direct affront to the pro-Dak crowd.

I’m not saying that people are not entitled to their opinions one way or the other. That’s what makes this place great. I just marvel at the lack of civility here at times over simple discussion.

To be clear, I am not saying the anti-Dak crowd is right and the pro-Dak crowd is wrong (and I really don’t have a dog in this fight) but it’s hard for me to fathom that the pro-Dak crowd can’t at least understand why the pro-Dak crowd can’t at least see why the anti-Dak crowd has soured on Dak.

I think most of the anti-Dak crowd understands and acknowledges that Dak has some positive traits and has done some good things but have, for various reasons, come to the conclusion that Dak isn’t the guy from their point of view.

It would be nice if this topic can be discussed here calmly and rationally without this thread devolving into chaos and vitriol. Thanks in advance.

I was pro-Romo and during the near of his end, I was just hoping for him to leave or retire. I was tired of hearing his name. Tired of the "Tastes Great!" & "Less Filling!" arguments. I am now the same way with Dak. I am just over the whole conversation. In the end, it doesn't matter who the QB is. We still have Jerry. Unfortunately, that makes every other conversation about this team pointless.

 

[acr731]

I was pro-Romo and during the near of his end, I was just hoping for him to leave or retire. I was tired of hearing his name. Tired of the "Tastes Great!" & "Less Filling!" arguments. I am now the same way with Dak. I am just over the whole conversation. In the end, it doesn't matter who the QB is. We still have Jerry. Unfortunately, that makes every other conversation about this team pointless.

I was always on the fence with Romo. Where he really lost me was 2007 when they took the ill-advised trip to Cabo. Why couldn't they wait a few weeks longer for the season to end? It made me question his seriousness, passion, and desire for winning after that. And then it became clear he wasn't the answer and the injuries started piling up.

But then they "lucked" into Dak as a viable replacement who wasn't initially intended to be a replacement. Like Romo, the seasons went by it became clear he too wasn't the answer and his massive greed took center stage. He became a much more expensive version of Romo to me, Romo 2.0 without the injury concerns.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What we should be debating is , " Is it Romo/Dak or is it the ineptitude of the FO?"

Because if the answer is the latter, we've just wasted the last 16 years debating the QBs for nothing.

Either way you slice it...that's a fact.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I was the same way - on board with Romo until it became clear he wasn't the answer and the injuries started piling up. But then they "lucked" into Dak as a viable replacement who wasn't initially intended to be a replacement. But as the seasons went by it became clear he too wasn't the answer and his massive greed took center stage. He became a much more expensive version of Romo to me, Romo 2.0.

I had more fun watching Romo.

Has nothing to do with who is "better".

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Maybe Lance is the replacement plan. If that is the case, I don't understand the reasoning. He has little to no time on the field and has already been injured twice, including a fractured ankle in 2022. I understand wanting to move on from Dak, and include me in that camp, but anointing Lance as the future of the franchise would be insane, especially since he hasn't take a snap in a live game since September 2022. But if we think back to 2016, we had the same thoughts about Dak taking over for Romo, and then it happened.

Dak had zero experience and became the starter.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No. That doesn't make him a better QB.

No matter his pay, do you think he can win 3/4 games in a row in January in the playoffs? Exactly.

The only people who want the Cowboys to lock up Dak are the fans of the other 31 teams.

Using that argument who do you have faith in to win 3/4 games in a row? Aside from Mahomes? Who’s shown he can do it.

 

[acr731]

Using that argument who do you have faith in to win 3/4 games in a row? Aside from Mahomes? Who’s shown he can do it.

Burrow has, but the kid has already lost 2 seasons to injury out of 4.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What we should be debating is , " Is it Romo/Dak or is it the ineptitude of the FO?"

Because if the answer is the latter, we've just wasted the last 16 years debating the QBs for nothing.

It’s probably some combination of both…..but to me if Romo and Dak are highly regarded…yet, both seem to be following the same trajectory that was set before they even came to Dallas? Gotta assume Jerry and co. are at fault.

 

[Aven8]

The biggest concern the Cowboys face with Dak is they have no viable replacement if they move on after the 2024 season. If you look at most teams that have moved on from a solid starting QB, either due to the QB retiring or feeling it was time for a change and they didn’t have a viable replacement it’s led to years of struggling. The teams that remain successful and competitive have a viable replacement. The Packers for example always have a promising QB waiting in the wings to take over.

Right. See the Raiders. Carr isn’t great, but he isn’t awful either. Now they are searching for another QB year after year.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Burrow has, but the kid has already lost 2 seasons to injury out of 4.

Burrow showed he can make some timely throws but he did not put that team on his back and win those games. But he was such a young QB I don’t think anyone expected him to.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Right. See the Raiders. Carr isn’t great, but he isn’t awful either. Now they are searching for another QB year after year.

Raiders are just stupid. They somehow scapegoated Carr for their terrible mismanagement.

 

[starfan1]

I haven't seen anyone who thinks we should sign him for "Whatever" he wants. There are thos who blame him for everything then those who blame him for very little and then the rest of us who blame Jerry and are fine with him stying or going because Jerry is not changing..have not seen the ones saying "Sign him for whatever he wants".

ya a different kind of dak thread No one says sign him for whatever he wants

 

[starfan1]

What we should be debating is , " Is it Romo/Dak or is it the ineptitude of the FO?"

Because if the answer is the latter, we've just wasted the last 16 years debating the QBs for nothing.

Ill go with door number 2 Monty! Jerry is the single biggest issue with this franchise

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

ya a different kind of dak thread No one says sign him for whatever he wants

That’s what I said but 20 people messaged me saying one person said it so that speaks for everyone lol.

 

[acr731]

Burrow showed he can make some timely throws but he did not put that team on his back and win those games. But he was such a young QB I don’t think anyone expected him to.

I have no problem saying I would rather have Burrow as my QB in a big game over Dak. This will never happen, though, so there's no point even discussing it.

 

[starfan1]

That’s what I said but 20 people messaged me saying one person said it so that speaks for everyone lol.

Ya we have some real jewels on this board even his most ardent supporter AC says he should take a team friendly approach

 

[Aven8]

Raiders are just stupid. They somehow scapegoated Carr for their terrible mismanagement.

Lol, and the Cowboys aren’t?…