Ditka and Keyshawn: "I'd take Romo as my QB"

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Yeah. Keyshawn was grilling Escobar saying he rounded his route off and didnt come back. Romo put the ball on the money even though he was off balance and the linebacker made a diving INT.

While that might be true, Romo has said he didn't put the throw where he wanted to. I think he makes the throw without all the backfield interference from the linemen.
 

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I don't think people are conveniently doing that. In fact, I said this early this morning but I think the problem is that regardless of the route, people have a problem with not throwing to the wide open guy in the middle of the field. I mean, that's pretty understandable IMO.

And that's a fair point, but he was still tripped by one lineman and bumped by another on the throw. He doesn't matter who he's throwing to at that point.
 

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The Air Coryell offense does not wait for the receiver to get open before the ball is thrown. QBs throw to a point on the field where the receiver is supposed to be. How the heck was Romo supposed to know that Escobar was not going to run his route correctly, or even come back to the ball?

Specious argument and I expected better, even from Garrett.

Because in that offense, like many others, you read the safety and you make decisions on where to go with the ball, based on those reads. If you know where the Back is supposed to be in the route, then you know that the Safeties can't make a play there and once you see the LBs turning and running at the snap, you have to know that the Back wil be wide open.
 

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The Air Coryell offense does not wait for the receiver to get open before the ball is thrown. QBs throw to a point on the field where the receiver is supposed to be. How the heck was Romo supposed to know that Escobar was not going to run his route correctly, or even come back to the ball?

Specious argument and I expected better, even from Garrett.

Trying to squeeze the pass into a crease between 3 defenders has a lower chance of success than checking down to a wide open RB and playing for 3rd down. Does not take away from the fact that Escobar should have flatten is route out to shield the trailing LB from the ball, but that's just a harder play to complete.
 

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While that might be true, Romo has said he didn't put the throw where he wanted to. I think he makes the throw without all the backfield interference from the linemen.

I heard that too. Keyshawn also said Romo won't blame Escobar or anyone for that matter. Romo will put the blame on himself. Keyshawn felt obligated in calling Escobar out because if he doesn't, everyone will roast Romo yet again even after all he did in that game.
 

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Yeah. Keyshawn was grilling Escobar saying he rounded his route off and didnt come back. Romo put the ball on the money even though he was off balance and the linebacker made a diving INT.

Goes right along with those images shown on this board and on btb.
 

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Identical rosters last game minus Romo with any quarterback in the world not named Brees, Manning, Rodgers and Brady (including Aikman). This team doesn't score 24+
 

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And that's a fair point, but he was still tripped by one lineman and bumped by another on the throw. He doesn't matter who he's throwing to at that point.

I don't know if I agree with this but that's here nor there. If you can't make the throw, then you don't put it up but honestly, if you read the defense, you should know, before the throw is made, that you have the back open.

It doesn't really matter. If we have to expect Romo to play error free football every time he takes the field, in order to win, then we are doing it wrong. At some point, we have to accept the fact that we must distribute the load and that means adopt a real running game strategy IMO. We can't be all about just throwing the ball and to me, yesterday is a perfect example of that.

Would be nice if the D could also step up and make a stop. I know it's Payton Manning but one stop and we win that game on Sunday. Think about that. Just one stop.
 

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Trying to squeeze the pass into a crease between 3 defenders has a lower chance of success than checking down to a wide open RB and playing for 3rd down. Does not take away from the fact that Escobar should have flatten is route out to shield the trailing LB from the ball, but that's just a harder play to complete.

Not the triple coverage myth again. If you did not see the game, then the pics are all over this forum. At no time was Escobar triple covered.
 

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I don't think people are conveniently doing that. In fact, I said this early this morning but I think the problem is that regardless of the route, people have a problem with not throwing to the wide open guy in the middle of the field. I mean, that's pretty understandable IMO.

So when you go back and review this game I fully expect you to want romo to take the check down all the time.

He made a number of huge plays by going for the bigger play all day, so if you want the check downs you should have wanted it all game. Please tell us which big plays you would like to have back for a check down, I'll wait for your specifics.

It was 2nd and 16 and he had an open Escobar for a big gain so just like the rest of he game that is where the ball went.
 

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Not the triple coverage myth again. If you did not see the game, then the pics are all over this forum. At no time was Escobar triple covered.

I don't know how you define "triple coverage", but there were certainly 3 players within 4 yards of Escobar. I'm staring at the images right now.
 

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Because in that offense, like many others, you read the safety and you make decisions on where to go with the ball, based on those reads. If you know where the Back is supposed to be in the route, then you know that the Safeties can't make a play there and once you see the LBs turning and running at the snap, you have to know that the Back wil be wide open.

Why would Romo not work through his progressions and go automatically to his check down receiver (even Garrett called Murray the check down)? Escobar was open when Romo made the decision to throw that pass. Whether you agree with that or not.
 

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Why would Romo not work through his progressions and go automatically to his check down receiver (even Garrett called Murray the check down)? Escobar was open when Romo made the decision to throw that pass. Whether you agree with that or not.

Bottom line and romo said it himself after.

It was 2nd and 16 and time is an issue also. Romo knew we could not punt. He was just doing what he did all game long, going for the bigger play.

I don't get why everyone all of a sudden wants the check down? He didn't take it all game, his whole career he has gone for aggressive plays and that is when he is at his best.
 

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Theres at least 8-10 teams that would glady line up and pay romo $100 mil to be there qb!!!!!!
 

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Would be nice if the D could also step up and make a stop. I know it's Payton Manning but one stop and we win that game on Sunday. Think about that. Just one stop.
They did get 2 turnovers but it would have been nice to see their punter just 1 time.
 

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I don't know how you define "triple coverage", but there were certainly 3 players within 4 yards of Escobar. I'm staring at the images right now.

Then you are looking at the wrong images or images from the wrong game, wrong time frame, whatever. Do your own due diligence before you repeat garbage, that's all I ask. Here is a link to a pic that Idgit found and it shows the most of the field from Romo's POV.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/smith-steps-on-romos-foot.268708/page-4
 

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Bottom line and romo said it himself after.

It was 2nd and 16 and time is an issue also. Romo knew we could not punt. He was just doing what he did all game long, going for the bigger play.

I don't get why everyone all of a sudden wants the check down? He didn't take it all game, his whole career he has gone for aggressive plays and that is when he is at his best.
Just last week fans were complaining that he should take more chances down field with the ball due to the conservative offense, there was even a foolish article written by Josh Bayles, at DC.com that Romo didn't throw enough interceptions and yet he had one of the best games of his career on yesterday throwing a lot down field and throws one int yet he sucks Cowboys fans are media induced sheep.
 

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Just last week fans were complaining that he should take more chances down field with the ball due to the conservative offense, there was even a foolish article written by Josh Bayles, at DC.com that Romo didn't throw enough interceptions and yet he had one of the best games of his career on yesterday throwing a lot down field and throws one int yet he sucks Cowboys fans are media induced sheep.

No kidding now fans are clamoring for check down Tony after complaining about the conservative play calling the last few weeks. Romo put on a show for the ages and I hope the gunslinger is back for good. Won't shed one tear if I never see check down Tony again.
 

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Then you are looking at the wrong images or images from the wrong game, wrong time frame, whatever. Do your own due diligence before you repeat garbage, that's all I ask. Here is a link to a pic that Idgit found and it shows the most of the field from Romo's POV.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/smith-steps-on-romos-foot.268708/page-4

And if you see where the ball was thrown, there were three defenders breaking for the ball, within 4 yards of the play. Maybe watching the play again will help you see what happened, instead of looking at someone else's grainy still-shot. If you don't think that play is more difficult to complete, rather than passing to a wide-open player two yards shallower with no defender within 5 yards, then I really cannot discuss this play with you.
 
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