Ditka and Keyshawn: "I'd take Romo as my QB"

[BAT]

You wouldn't do that because if you read the safety and the LB drops, you should know that you have the RB uncovered and if you have already taken a loss on 1st down, you know that you must take the smart play there. Romo had to know that he was uncovered. You take the open guy and either make the 1st or get yourself in a manageable position for 3rd. The game is on the line and the one thing you can not do, under any circumstances is give the other team time and field position. I mean, it's not as if Romo didn't have time. He did have time and I'm OK with taking a look to see if you have a big play but if it's not there, then take the smart play and live to play another down. We saw Manning do that all day long with his backs.

Murray was also uncovered when Romo threw that 80 yarder to TWilliams. What was the correct read?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It was 2nd and 16, and Romo made the right read. Escobar was open, he let it fly. It would be counter to how Romo was playing that afternoon to ignore the open down field receiver so he can throw it to the check down shallow receiver. It just so happened Romo was interfered with on the throw and the defender made an amazing play.

If Romo throws to the check down and then he fumbles/drops pass, guess what? You and everyone else who disdains Romo would be pointing out all the other open down field receivers. I mean remember the Witten drop down the seam against San Diego??? The clamor was that Romo was wrong to throw to Witten when Beasley was MORE open underneath. Never mind that Witten let the ball bounce right off his numbers.

Same principle.

Well, we can't agree on this. Better just to agree to disagree. It was not the same and no amount of saying it's the same will convince me otherwise. I'm sure you will say the same so this discussion should probably move on. We will not agree here.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You need to study then. Romo has always pushed the ball down the field.

Go back and watch all of his before the half or end of game drives, he almost never takes the check down because having a sure completion because it requires no risk will not win you the game.

Off the top of my head I can think of five late game winning/half ending drives where he fired the ball down the middle into traffic making big plays while giving up the easy sure 5 yd play.

The 2009 gw drive against Washington romo repeatedly threw to witten with incredibly tight windows and because of it we won the game.

So if you want him to check down and if you think it's the right play, I'm sorry you have not learned anything over the 7 years he as been the qb.

On 2nd and 16 at your own 14 knowing you have two plays to get a first down or you punt and lose its insane to expect a check down.

I need to study? No, I'm sure you are wrong. You don't play football the same way in the 1st quarter as you do in the 4th quarter. That's not even remotely correct. There is a big difference and you know it.

How many games, off the top of your head, can you remember a poor decision in the passing game cost us dearly? At some point, we all need to understand this.

I hope it's soon

 

[BAT]

He also made a huge play. What player on the team has never made a mistake?

Aren't you berating Romo for his mistake in this very thread? No one was more huge than Romo yesterday, so why excuse Williams and go on and on about Romo and your check down narrative?

 

[theebs]

Murray was also uncovered when Romo threw that 80 yarder to TWilliams. What was the correct read?

This is the problem with their argument and they will never acknowledge it.

Most of them saw manning throwing check downs yesterday so they believe that is the play to make, right now today.

In a few weeks if we lose on a final drive because the ball was checked down they will be griping that the offense was conservative.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Murray was also uncovered when Romo threw that 80 yarder to TWilliams. What was the correct read?

Williams because that was not 2:36 in the 4th quarter and a tie game. I mean, really? Do I honestly have to explain this to you? I know I don't, I know you understand the difference. Lets not be silly here. We both understand football and lets not act as thou we don't understand the game. Those two situations were completely different.

 

[BaybeeJay]

It was 2nd and 16, and Romo made the right read. Escobar was open, he let it fly. It would be counter to how Romo was playing that afternoon to ignore the open down field receiver so he can throw it to the check down shallow receiver. It just so happened Romo was interfered with on the throw and the defender made an amazing play.

If Romo throws to the check down and then he fumbles/drops pass, guess what? You and everyone else who disdains Romo would be pointing out all the other open down field receivers. I mean remember the Witten drop down the seam against San Diego??? The clamor was that Romo was wrong to throw to Witten when Beasley was MORE open underneath. Never mind that Witten let the ball bounce right off his numbers.

Same principle.

Escobar is 7 yards further upfield than Murray (Murray standing at the 17 yard line, interception occurred at the 24 yard line), with multiple players in position to either break on the ball (as it happened) or make the tackle. Romo was not forgoing Murray for a big play.

 

[theebs]

I need to study? No, I'm sure you are wrong. You don't play football the same way in the 1st quarter as you do in the 4th quarter. That's not even remotely correct. There is a big difference and you know it.

How many games, off the top of your head, can you remember a poor decision in the passing game cost us dearly? At some point, we all need to understand this.

I hope it's soon

Ahh, and there we have the reason behind wanting the check down, it proves some ulterior point about your dislike of the qb.

In the old days I would have made a highlight reel of romo throwing into tight windows to tight ends at the expense of the check down to win or score before the half but I don't do that anymore.

But the mask is off here anyway, no point in continuing talking to you.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Aren't you berating Romo for his mistake in this very thread? No one was more huge than Romo yesterday, so why excuse Williams and go on and on about Romo and your check down narrative?

No. I'm calling it what it is. It was a mistake and that's understandable. We can not expect Romo to play perfect football. At some point, we have to help him. I can not put this game on Romo and I've said that enough by now that none of you should be confused about it unless you are trying to be so.

However, that was a mistake and ignoring that point does not help anything.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ahh, and there we have the reason behind wanting the check down, it proves some ulterior point about your dislike of the qb.

In the old days I would have made a highlight reel of romo throwing into tight windows to tight ends at the expense of the check down to win or score before the half but I don't do that anymore.

But the mask is off here anyway, no point in continuing talking to you.

OK. Do me a favor and wear your tinfoil hat in another thread. This is not about flying helicopters and magic bullets culminating in a deep seated Romo hatread. It's simply Football. Get over it.

I hope you do make a little film there Zapruder but make sure you also include the film where those kinds of decisions have also sent us home.

By all means, take your discussion elsewhere.

 

[venky]

He is referring to Ricky Williams when Ditka was coaching the Saints.

Oh wow, lol.

 

[BAT]

Williams because that was not 2:36 in the 4th quarter and a tie game. I mean, really? Do I honestly have to explain this to you? I know I don't, I know you understand the difference. Lets not be silly here. We both understand football and lets not act as thou we don't understand the game. Those two situations were completely different.

The situation was the same, Romo was scoring TD for TD with Manning. In a tie game, with not a lot of clock left, why would anyone, let alone Romo who is in a zone, take the pedal off the metal?

Give me the Gunslinger who passed for 500 yards and 5 TDs over Check down Tony, in any quarter, on any day of the week. Romo and his instincts were the reason why the Cowboys were even in the game at all. For Garrett and others to play back seat driver, or worse, Monday morning QB, while Romo was the one making all the plays is disingenuous.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The situation was the same, Romo was scoring TD for TD with Manning. In a tie game, with not a lot of clock left, why would anyone, let alone Romo who is in a zone, take the pedal off the metal?

Give me the Gunslinger who passed for 500 yards and 5 TDs over Check down Tony, in any quarter, on any day of the week. Romo and his instincts were the reason why the Cowboys were even in the game at all. For Garrett and others to play back seat driver, or worse, Monday morning QB, while Romo was the one making all the plays is disingenuous.

OK. Give me the QB who takes the smart play and not the guy who bets the farm on the slower pony. Throwing the ball to Murray does not mean taking your foot off the pedal. It means you take the smart play and not the hard play in that situation. Is that really a bad thing?

Seriously?

We just don't see it the same. Good night, I hope you can see that this is not a hate Romo thing. In fact, it's just the opposite.

 

[gimmesix]

Well, we can't agree on this. Better just to agree to disagree. It was not the same and no amount of saying it's the same will convince me otherwise. I'm sure you will say the same so this discussion should probably move on. We will not agree here.

It was a choice, both were open when Romo decided to throw. Murray was wide-open underneath while Escobar had his man beaten further downfield. Romo chose the downfield throw, but made a poor one instead of leading Escobar toward the sideline. Another foot and it's a completion ... but Leary and Smith likely inadvertently affected Romo's ability to make that throw.

Murray was definitely the safer option, but Romo had been completing throws in tight windows, so I don't see why he wouldn't think he could make that one. Worse thing you can have is a QB second-guessing himself when he sees a player coming open.

 

[dart]

Picture Romo on the Seahawks or 49ers.

they be in the mess we are in

 

[CATCH17]

Now we're blaming Escobar?

So what if Escobar didnt run a perfectly crisp route.

The pick was made because of the decision to chunk it into a tight window on 2nd and 15 with a wide open Demarco Murray right in front of him.

Romo was great and the he did a Romo.

 

[jobberone]

So when you go back and review this game I fully expect you to want romo to take the check down all the time.

He made a number of huge plays by going for the bigger play all day, so if you want the check downs you should have wanted it all game. Please tell us which big plays you would like to have back for a check down, I'll wait for your specifics.

It was 2nd and 16 and he had an open Escobar for a big gain so just like the rest of he game that is where the ball went.

ABQ is making great points. And this is also a good one. Romo was lighting it up in a way never seen before.

In the end you must protect the football there. You always do but in that situation it is the first ten things on your to do list?

 

[SportsGuru80]

The head coach said Romo should have taken the check down to the running back.. Which I said last night. I'm done debating it honestly.

 

[Cebrin]

Was watching Monday Night Countdown and they were talking about Romo and the interception. Boomer went to the panel and asked "would you want Romo as your QB?". Keyshawn said absolutely and referred to Escobar running a bad route and the linebacker making a great play. Tom Jackson said he'd take him as his QB but was saying that Romo's stats didn't matter because the team lost etc. Ditka was real adamant and said that he would definitely take Romo as his QB and without Romo they would have been blown out yesterday! Anyone else see this?

cute kids!

 

[punchnjudy]

lol, the whole league minus one team would take Romo as their qb if he could play like that every week.

Let's just hope he and the rest of the offense can come close next week.

My biggest gripe with Romo's criticism for that game is that he's essentially being criticized due to his success. If he throws for 300 yards, 2 td's, and throws the same int, there aren't any Romo threads this week. All the focus would be on the defense and maybe Dez's fumble and dropped pass. Why? Because they wouldn't have been in the game and no one would even remember the interception.