Division winner scenarios thread

[viman96]

Common opponents is tied

Conference is tied

Division is tied

It goes to strength of victory

If Dallas beats both Detroit and Miami then I do not believe Philly would have a better strength of victory.

 

[HungryLion]

------Realistically, Dallas must overcome a tougher rest-of-season schedule to make up a game in the final three weeks in order to win the NFC East.

Exactly what does this mean? How realistically is it?

If the eagles play like they did tonight. They can lose.

We have to remember. They’re just not playing well the last 3 weeks. Got blown out twice and lost to a just ok Seahawks team with a backup QB tonight.

If they keep playing this poorly. They could lose any of their remaining games.

 

[boysfanperiod]

It means you shouldn’t lose to teams like ARZ

 

[beacamdim]

Looks to me like beating the Giants is far more important for the Eagles than beating the Dolphins is for the Cowboys. If both Eagles and Cowboys lose, Cowboys move from about 1 in 3 chance of winning the division to about 2 in 3.
We can be jealous that the Eagles have control of their destiny, but one more slip up by them and they will very likely sink in the seedings, even without a perfect season finish by Dallas.

True to a point. But MIA game matters in that a loss is a loss. And DET is no slouch either. DAL ain't dead, but as lousy as PHI has been playing they have a huge upper hand heading into games against AZ and NYG teams that aren't very talented and (unlike SEA) have nothing to play for,.

 

[viman96]

Not true, that would mean Philly wins the strength of victory tiebreaker.

How?

 

[loublue22]

If Dallas beats both Detroit and Miami then I do not believe Philly would have a better strength of victory.

philly also beat miami so only the detroit game would matter

 

[Hawkeye0202]

 

[mldardy]

Just confirmed this on ESPN Playoff machine.
1. We both win out. Eagles win the division.
2. If Eagles lose 1 more (Giants or Cardinals), we don't have to win out to win the division. We just have to beat Washington and either Detroit OR Miami.

Someone can double check but this is what I am seeing on the ESPN Playoff Machine.

You can't really calculate like this because we don't know how the rest of the schedule besides Eagles and Cowboys games will go.

 

[Bachman05]

Cowboys need Philly to lose one more and win out themselves.

yeah let's do this and keep it simple

 

[gmb1]

Well the Giant vs Eagles game is on MNF and the underdogs have flat out won since week 10 so......

Nevermind...game on FOX

 

[beacamdim]

If Eagles lose one more, we just have to beat Wash and either Miami or Detroit to win the division. It's very simple.

As a math problem, maybe. But NYG and AZ still suck.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

If Dallas beats both Detroit and Miami then I do not believe Philly would have a better strength of victory.

Believing in it doesn’t make it real. Dallas is significantly behind atm in strength of victory. Even with those wins you’re still around 4 games back

 

[goshan]

Yeah this is what I can't calculate. You would think victories over the Lions and Dolphins would boost our strength of victory while Philly beating the Giants twice and Cards would lower there's. I don't understand strength of victory and how it's calculated.

Right now the playoff machine says Phili wins on SOV if we both win out.

 

[goshan]

You can't really calculate like this because we don't know how the rest of the schedule besides Eagles and Cowboys games will go.

#2 is 100% true.

 

[gmb1]

As a math problem, maybe. But NYG and AZ still suck.

So does Seattle

 

[beacamdim]

Yeah this is what I can't calculate. You would think victories over the Lions and Dolphins would boost our strength of victory while Philly beating the Giants twice and Cards would lower there's. I don't understand strength of victory and how it's calculated.

PHI wins over MIA and MIN effectively cancel out MIA/DET, and weakness of NYG and AZ already baked into DAL number. So not likely room for a lot of movement.

 

[Kevinicus]

Cowboys need Philly to lose one more and win out themselves.

Dallas can lose either of the next two (but not both) if Philly loses a game.

 

[beacamdim]

So does Seattle

SEA destroyed NY at NY when Giants had QB1.

And they are in the mix for a PO spot.

NY with QB3 not even close to SEA,

 

[Steve007]

Eagles will lose at least one more

So will the Cowboys.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

PHI wins over MIA and MIN effectively cancel out MIA/DET, and weakness of NYG and AZ already baked into DAL number. So not likely room for a lot of movement.

The room is teams one beat and the other didn’t. So if KC and Buff keep winning games, that helps Philly. If LAC and NYJ pull out wins, that helps DAL