DMN Blog: Cowboys refuse to apologize for win/Brooking cherishes the win

Air Force One;3009713 said:
Point one: After the way they've played so far this season, after the way last season ended,....and to top it off to lose to the winless chiefs..., not rich...just pragmatic.
It's not pragmatic to want to give up on a season 5/16 of the way through.

Point two: I don't know why you're not shocked.
Because most people don't like to admit that they're mentally weak.
 
peplaw06;3009736 said:
I'm not doing any of those either.

I'm just watching football.

Why do I have to play the stock market to watch football?

im saying you should not do those things. good for you for not doing them, you could lose a lot of money/ fail.
 
peplaw06;3009749 said:
It's not pragmatic to want to give up on a season 5/16 of the way through.


Because most people don't like to admit that they're mentally weak.

I'm not giving up. I'm saying we arent likely making the playoffs
 
Okay, sorry, this whole thing is getting pretty childish. Allow me to barge in.

Do you think it's possible we'll make the playoffs? If so, what odds would you peg it at? (Keeping in mind that our 3-2 record and the fact that almost 40% of teams make the playoffs every year make us pretty close to an even shot, everything else equal.)

On edit: That was directed to The30YardSlant and I see that he's already kind of answered it. I'd agree with the answer, by the way. I think our chances of making the playoffs are less than 50%, although not by much.
 
The30YardSlant;3009746 said:
You're arguing against stats and trends by saying they don't always hold true.

NO. The claim is that December games are more important.... there was no qualification. I'm not talking about stats and trends there. It's either true or it isn't.
 
Hostile;3009721 said:
First of all I never said they did, and it was 5 games, not before the season.

I was told that superior football IQs see that this team is not headed to the playoffs because they see trends.

Well, then use those trends and prove the hypothesis. Is that too much to ask?

I already know it is. It cannot be done.

Don't tell me it can be done with any team, because it is impossible. That is an irrefutable fact.

I agree there's no way of identifying which teams will make the playoffs after five weeks.

However, in my opinion, it's reasonable to assert that certain teams (after five weeks) have a better chance of making the playoffs than other teams, and that the Cowboys' chances of making the playoffs are not very high if they continue to make certain mistakes.
 
fanfromvirginia;3009755 said:
Okay, sorry, this whole thing is getting pretty childish. Allow me to barge in.

Do you think it's possible we'll make the playoffs? If so, what odds would you peg it at? (Keeping in mind that our 3-2 record and the fact that almost 40% of teams make the playoffs every year make us pretty close to an even shot, everything else equal.)

Yes its possible that we make the playoffs, it will be possible to will are mathematically ruled out. Id say 30% odds mainly because we play in the NFC East. Put us in the west and id say 60%.
 
utrunner07;3009745 said:
Teams that start 0-4 don't make the playoffs, its a trend, not a rule.

Teams that start 4-0 usually make the playoffs, its a trend not a rule.

Teams that can't get over penalties, have d's that give up game winning drives at the end of games over and over and over, have hot and cold QBs, have turnover problems...usually dont make the playoffs. its a trend not a rule...

the trend with this team in the last season and a half is to have a d that gives up end of game drives, give up turnovers, has a hot and cold QB, penalties, etc. etc.

point proven.
We're talking 3-2 though, not 0-4 or 4-0. I have already acknowledged those facts.

Stick to the point, don't try and switch it around and create a strawman point as if it is relevant when it isn't.
 
peplaw06;3009759 said:
NO. The claim is that December games are more important.... there was no qualification. I'm not talking about stats and trends there. It's either true or it isn't.

Okay, th guy who made the original point should have specified. I apologize for him.
 
Hostile;3009765 said:
We're talking 3-2 though, not 0-4 or 4-0. I have already acknowledged those facts.

Stick to the point, don't try and switch it around and create a strawman point as if it is relevant when it isn't.

Read the whole post. Those were simply example for the rest of the post so you and others can understand the difference between a trend and a rule.
 
The30YardSlant;3009752 said:
I'm not giving up. I'm saying we arent likely making the playoffs

Well you're giving up on the playoffs if you say we likely won't go. Just own it.

As to who is mentally weak and who are the idiots, that will take 15 more weeks to find out.
 
ScipioCowboy;3009760 said:
I agree there's no way of identifying which teams will make the playoffs after five weeks.

However, in my opinion, it's reasonable to assert that certain teams (after five weeks) have a better chance of making the playoffs than other teams, and that the Cowboys' chances of making the playoffs are not very high if they continue to make certain mistakes.

Well this all means jack and squat if you can't name all 12 playoff teams ;)
 
utrunner07;3009762 said:
Yes its possible that we make the playoffs, it will be possible to will are mathematically ruled out. Id say 30% odds mainly because we play in the NFC East. Put us in the west and id say 60%.

Yeah, I'd put it at about 40%. I'm willing to jack it up to 50%+ if we beat Atlanta.
 
ScipioCowboy;3009760 said:
I agree there's no way of identifying which teams will make the playoffs after five weeks.

However, in my opinion, it's reasonable to assert that certain teams (after five weeks) have a better chance of making the playoffs than other teams, and that the Cowboys' chances of making the playoffs are not very high if they continue to make certain mistakes.
I completely disagree. I find that thinking to be fatalistic rather than factual.

I understand bitterness, but does it have to cloud judgment? Is that really required?
 
For the record, I think Peplaw is capable of excelling at whatever he puts his mind to, including gambling, teaching history, or investing in the stock market.:p:
 
The30YardSlant;3009767 said:
Okay, th guy who made the original point should have specified. I apologize for him.

It did not need to be specified he is just arguing for arguments sake. I started ignoring him long ago.
 
utrunner07;3009770 said:
Read the whole post. Those were simply example for the rest of the post so you and others can understand the difference between a trend and a rule.
I read it. It was unimpressive and I stand on my reply.
 
peplaw06;3009749 said:
Because most people don't like to admit that they're mentally weak.

You're not making sense. I thought you said you weren't shocked? Are you now in fact shocked?
 

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