DMN Blog: Dan Reeves speaks

[Givincer]

May be a stupid guess, but does anyone think the one thing they couldn't agree on was Owens being on the team?

 

[theogt]

May be a stupid guess, but does anyone think the one thing they couldn't agree on was Owens being on the team?

Based on the following language?

I'm sure this was something you wanted to do right? "Oh yeah, no question about it. I really and truly thought the deal was done. And after several days of discussing it and so forth we basically came to an agreement and so I thought it was done but with some of the concessions that Jerry had made he ended up putting some things in there that I wasn't comfortable with that he thought was important to him and just felt like if we couldn't come to an agreement it's best we part if we both weren't' going to feel comfortable with the thing."

No, not at all.

 

[Idgit]

Wade has officially been castrated. Might as well pull the plug and ask Shanahan to fix this thing.

We're overreacting to Reeves leaving, since we don't have any idea what the holdup was. There's more in the works and we don't have the data yet. But Reeves leaving doesn't mean Jerry's done trying.

I think the chances that he does something more drastic--like replacing the head coach--have gone up. We're not going to sit tight just because of a term in a contract for a consultant we wanted to work with couldn't get ironed out.

 

[Bleu Star]

We're overreacting to Reeves leaving, since we don't have any idea what the holdup was. There's more in the works and we don't have the data yet. But Reeves leaving doesn't mean Jerry's done trying.

I think the chances that he does something more drastic--like replacing the head coach--have gone up. We're not going to sit tight just because of a term in a contract for a consultant we wanted to work with couldn't get ironed out.

Yup..

 

[Givincer]

Based on the following language?

No, not at all.

Doesn't seem too terribly implausible to me, even given what he said.

 

[theogt]

We're overreacting to Reeves leaving, since we don't have any idea what the holdup was. There's more in the works and we don't have the data yet. But Reeves leaving doesn't mean Jerry's done trying.

I think the chances that he does something more drastic--like replacing the head coach--have gone up. We're not going to sit tight just because of a term in a contract for a consultant we wanted to work with couldn't get ironed out.

Dude, that's quite a leap.

Doesn't seem too terribly implausible to me, even given what he said.

Most people will believe what they want to believe.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

I didn't get the hire to begin with really. It sounded to me like we had a coaching staff that was incompetent and they were going to hire someone to try and fix it instead of just hiring a competent coaching staff, but whatever. At least it was a change and one that could potentially be for the better.

Then they handle it like this?

Frankly, it's embarrassing. You give the guy a freaking office and act like it's a done deal and then you can't figure out a way to officially define his role in his contract? And that's that?

 

[chinch]

We're overreacting to Reeves leaving, since we don't have any idea what the holdup was. There's more in the works and we don't have the data yet. But Reeves leaving doesn't mean Jerry's done trying.

I think the chances that he does something more drastic--like replacing the head coach--have gone up. We're not going to sit tight just because of a term in a contract for a consultant we wanted to work with couldn't get ironed out.

Overreacting?

:laugh2:

Cupcake is not getting fired now. Jerry's ego's PET PROJECT techmo-bowl is gonna be groomed some more to perhaps be able to run an offense. Jerry will save that $6m and double-down on TO (paying his roster bonus whenever) bringing the circus back soon enough.

 

[Givincer]

Most people will believe what they want to believe.

Ok?

I just think this doesn't sound like Owens possibly being the issue is completely implausible:

"he ended up putting some things in there that I wasn't comfortable with"

Not saying he definitely is (or even probably is). Just saying it doesn't seem completely implausible.

Besides, if it was a choice between Owens and Reeves for next year, I'd take Owens hands down.

 

[Sasquatch]

Frankly, it's embarrassing. You give the guy a freaking office and act like it's a done deal and then you can't figure out a way to officially define his role in his contract? And that's that?

Agreed. Regardless of one's opinion of Reeves, the peculiar unfolding of this situation suggests an organization that is listing rather than one that is being guided by a steady, competent hand.

 

[ZeroClub]

I didn't get the hire to begin with really. It sounded to me like we had a coaching staff that was incompetent and they were going to hire someone to try and fix it instead of just hiring a competent coaching staff, but whatever. At least it was a change and one that could potentially be for the better.

Then they handle it like this?

Frankly, it's embarrassing. You give the guy a freaking office and act like it's a done deal and then you can't figure out a way to officially define his role in his contract? And that's that?

Yes.

The Cowboys aren't an "organization" these days. They are a disorganization.

 

[Idgit]

Dude, that's quite a leap.

Most people will believe what they want to believe.

Overreacting?

:laugh2:

Cupcake is not getting fired now. Jerry's ego's PET PROJECT techmo-bowl is gonna be groomed some more to perhaps be able to run an offense. Jerry will save that $6m and double-down on TO (paying his roster bonus whenever) bringing the circus back soon enough.

I'm not saying that Wade's going to be fired. I'm saying there's virtually no way Jerry goes into next season with the status quo. He'll try to get a solution he can live with with half-measures like hiring Reeves as a consultant if he can, but at the back of his mind he's expecting to change HC next offseason if this season's changes don't work.

Now, we're moving on from plan A--whatever all that really entailed. I'm sure there's a plan B that may or may not work. But at some point he's going to weigh how happy he is with his backup plan options against just making the move to one of several experienced coaches anyway. It wouldn't be out of character in the least to wake up one day next week and hear that Jerry's negotiated a deal with Holmgren, etc. and pulled the trigger early.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

just confirmed what everyone was thinking

Jerry ****ed it up

What was it that Jerry was asking for? Oh wait you don't know.

 

[burmafrd]

Unfortunately no good coach is going to touch this mess now. Not without at least as much clout as BP had and Jerruh will never do that again.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I didn't get the hire to begin with really. It sounded to me like we had a coaching staff that was incompetent and they were going to hire someone to try and fix it instead of just hiring a competent coaching staff, but whatever. At least it was a change and one that could potentially be for the better.

Then they handle it like this?

Frankly, it's embarrassing. You give the guy a freaking office and act like it's a done deal and then you can't figure out a way to officially define his role in his contract? And that's that?

from what has just been brought forth, seems like Reeves wanted a job around the theme of a GM

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What was it that Jerry was asking for? Oh wait you don't know.

everything was in place until the last minute, Jerry brought something up, and Reeves quits

whatever it is, it doesn't sound favorable on Jerry

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

everything was in place until the last minute, Jerry brought something up, and Reeves quits

whatever it is, it doesn't sound favorable on Jerry

If I ask you to be polite and you say no and walk out of the room then who should look bad? You have no idea what was asked or anything.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If I ask you to be polite and you say no and walk out of the room then who should look bad? You have no idea what was asked or anything.

but we do know Reeves was set to go as a consultant in some capacity, until Jerry walks into the room, and Reeves up and quits

use your head man

Reeves even said himself that it was a stipulation that was added to his contract that he didn't agree with that made him quit

 

[Idgit]

but we do know Reeves was set to go as a consultant in some capacity, until Jerry walks into the room, and Reeves up and quits

use your head man

Reeves even said himself that it was a stipulation in his contract that he didn't agree with that made him quit

Without knowing the stipulation, how is it you're determining it was unreasonable to ask for it? Or reasonable to insist it not be there?

If the situation were reversed, and it was Reeves who wanted the unknown stipulation, and Jerry not comfortable with it, is there any chance you'd be blaming the situation falling apart on Reeves?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Without knowing the stipulation, how is it you're determining it was unreasonable to ask for it? Or reasonable to insist it not be there?

If the situation were reversed, and it was Reeves who wanted the unknown stipulation, and Jerry not comfortable with it, is there any chance you'd be blaming the situation falling apart on Reeves?

a football guy walking out on a play-pretend football guy is all I need to know