DMN Blog: Owens missing practice again

[BigDFan5]

Let's try a different hypothetical -- if TO had signed with the Commanders instead of the Cowboys, how would we be reacting? Would we not be pointing out TO's history? Would we not be making fun of Danny-O for getting played?

TO doesnt have a history of faking injuries and missing practices for it.

His history in this regard says he is a great practice player etc etc.

 

[Mash]

Let our superstar player get healthy.......whats the hurry?....how many vets say that training camp is 2 games too long?......TO has lots of time to get on the same page as Bledsoe. They are both veterns.

Lets see...lets rush him back and have him limping around all year....then we can all complain that Bill rushes players back to quick......I wonder if Henry regrets rushing back to quick.......just to please Big Bill.

Everything will be fine......"don't worry be happy"

 

[Doomsday101]

Sure. But what good does that financial commitment do if we can't get our money's worth during the season because we were stupid and rushed him back in the preseason? Not much - it's a much bigger waste.

I see an awful lot of "doctors" saying he should suck it up and get out there, while having minimal knowledge of the situation. Some guy psoted a blurb about Canoe's injury for the Yankees.

In any case, we have a nationally televised game coming up. I really don't think TO wants to miss this, for ANY reason.

1 week for a sore Hamsting I can buy going into 2 weeks while he rides the bike like some moron in his tour de france outfit yeah that really helps his reputation out but of course that is the media doing that not TO own stupidity. Our trainers felt he was good to go he needs to be putting in his work which he has done almost none since the start of camp.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

That's a reason why many players fake holdouts or even pretend to retire. They don't want to deal with the rigors of training camp and two-a-days. Think back to last year, Owens got out of it then too.

Which doesn't address the concern about TO not knowing the offense. Most players who whine and fake their ways out of camp know the playbook and the offense like the proverbials backs of their hands. You seem to be admitting that TO isn't truly hampered, right?

 

[Sportsbabe]

Even if he returned today, I'm not sure the Cowboys would have time to install special packages for him in camp. He'll be lucky if he can get down the basics of just the flanker position in a new offense by the time the season starts.

Oh no, the majority of the posts I read appear to think we can just line up and "chunk it" to TO and all will be right with our passing game. Yeah right

I hope Bill continues to ignore him and focus on the people who want to play. What if Bill grooms Hurd to take TO's place and let Jethro deal with TO. That's his boy. Let him play with him. We've got a season to get prepared to play. TO said he was intelligent. I can't tell at this time. Getting on Bill's bad side is not very intelligent.

 

[superpunk]

1 week for a sore Hamsting I can buy going into 2 weeks while he rides the bike like some moron in his tour de france outfit yeah that really helps his reputation out but of course that is the media doing that not TO own stupidity. Our trainers felt he was good to go he needs to be putting in his work which he has done almost none since the start of camp.

Did I miss the trainers saying he was good to go? I don't remember that at all.

Obviously he's a moron. But he is a dedicated moron. I don't think that's up for question until he proves otherwise.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

TO doesnt have a history of faking injuries and missing practices for it.

His history in this regard says he is a great practice player etc etc.

But you'll admit he has a history for drama and hissy fits, right? This is just a new way of being dramatic. TO, for whatever reasons, decided to take The Stand of the Cyclist, and he will play it for all it's worth because that's what TO does. Eventually, he will play quality football for the Cowboys, don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping off ledges -- I just see this as perfectly fitting TOs drama pattern, if not his practice pattern. Anyway, we'll know soon enough I guess.

 

[Alexander]

Which doesn't address the concern about TO not knowing the offense. Most players who whine and fake their ways out of camp know the playbook and the offense like the proverbials backs of their hands. You seem to be admitting that TO isn't truly hampered, right?

No.

Unlike the rest of the dramatic displays you see here, I won't pretend to know. He might be, he might not. And as with most things, there are different sides to it and the truth is smack in the middle.

 

[Sportsbabe]

... i hate TO with the white hot passion of a thousand dying suns and yet i refuse to rush off to judge him more harshly just because some people want to. i will try at this point to judge him no better and no worse than any other player ...

From my POV, it has nothing to do with hating TO. It's all about getting our football team ready for the regular season. In order to do that you have to do everything within your power to cooperate with the coach. Jerry did everything within his power to get the best receiver available on this team. Bill is doing everything within his power to bring what has been a proven formula for success into this organization. What is TO doing?

 

[Doomsday101]

Did I miss the trainers saying he was good to go? I don't remember that at all.

Obviously he's a moron. But he is a dedicated moron. I don't think that's up for question until he proves otherwise.

Dallas trainers did, so TO brought in his own people. They saw nothing wrong with him according to the test they ran on him. Now I was willing last week to say well if he some sorness then give it some rest when we go into week 2 and he still has no plan to return (already indicated he will not practice Wednesday) then yes I have a bit of a problem with him not being on the field and learning and people can give what ever excuses they would like but does not change my feelings that he is milking this and needs to get his butt in gear and get to work like we would expect from any other player.

 

[Alexander]

From my POV, it has nothing to do with hating TO. It's all about getting our football team ready for the regular season. In order to do that you have to do everything within your power to cooperate with the coach. Jerry did everything within his power to get the best receiver available on this team. Bill is doing everything within his power to bring what has been a proven formula for success into this organization. What is TO doing?

If you are saying that you would be holding anyone not named Owens to the same standard, you are deluding yourself.

Take Carpenter for example. Hatcher. Ayodele. Any of the new players.

Would anyone be as hysterical about them? No.

Cut the act, it has everything to do with disliking him.

 

[BigDFan5]

1 week for a sore Hamsting I can buy going into 2 weeks while he rides the bike like some moron in his tour de france outfit yeah that really helps his reputation out but of course that is the media doing that not TO own stupidity. Our trainers felt he was good to go he needs to be putting in his work which he has done almost none since the start of camp.

Couple things the Tour De france Jersey was BEFORE practice it was humor in his own time.

Next you said the trainers felt he was good to go? Can you show me a quote from a trainer saying that, hell a quote from anyone saying the trainers said that?

 

[BigDFan5]

But you'll admit he has a history for drama and hissy fits, right? This is just a new way of being dramatic. TO, for whatever reasons, decided to take The Stand of the Cyclist, and he will play it for all it's worth because that's what TO does. Eventually, he will play quality football for the Cowboys, don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping off ledges -- I just see this as perfectly fitting TOs drama pattern, if not his practice pattern. Anyway, we'll know soon enough I guess.

So now you have been reduced to thinking everything is a sinister plot? Before you said it was based on history we history shows you were wrong, so now you have to stretch it out and invent new history? Come on :laugh2:

 

[superpunk]

Dallas trainers did

I don't remember this AT ALL. I don't even know how they would clear someone from soreness, it's not like that can be seen and diagnosed, you just have to trust his judgement.

 

[Doomsday101]

Couple things the Tour De france Jersey was BEFORE practice it was humor in his own time.

Next you said the trainers felt he was good to go? Can you show me a quote from a trainer saying that, hell a quote from anyone saying the trainers said that?

Heck Jerry is even saying he needs to be out there even if he is not 100%. You guys can give him every excuses as you have from day 1. Oh it is McNabb fault,the Eagles fault or the media's fault. TO has a sore hamstring and you guys are acting as if he is coming off major surgery it is a sore Hammy and he can work through that as so many other player have done.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Couple things the Tour De france Jersey was BEFORE practice it was humor in his own time.

Next you said the trainers felt he was good to go? Can you show me a quote from a trainer saying that, hell a quote from anyone saying the trainers said that?

The MRI showed no injury. At this point the trainers can only go by what the player tells them, as Jerry repeated ad nauseum the other day. Its TO saying he's not ready to play football. The trainers aren't saying it.

I'm sure its endearing to his new teammates as they're all limping through practices with assorted bumps and bruises that come naturally with training camp when they look over to see TO riding the bike with a phantom, mystery injury. That's piggybacked on top of skipping workouts at the Ranch in the offseason with the rest of the team. Even a player Parcells described as among the very, very, very best on the team is out there on a twisted ankle.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't remember this AT ALL. I don't even know how they would clear someone from soreness, it's not like that can be seen and diagnosed, you just have to trust his judgement.

They cleared him for any real injury there is no tear or damage to the hamstring it is sore nothing more than that. You baby him all you want I expect the guy too get his butt on the field and do his damn job.

 

[Champsheart]

Let's try a different hypothetical -- if TO had signed with the Commanders instead of the Cowboys, how would we be reacting? Would we not be pointing out TO's history? Would we not be making fun of Danny-O for getting played?

Honestly, if T.O. where having this problem with the Commanders I would really be hoping that hamstring was a problem for him all year long, just like I did with his groin last year in Philly.

I just really do not like facing T.O. on game day. I am glad he is on our side.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

No.

Unlike the rest of the dramatic displays you see here, I won't pretend to know. He might be, he might not. And as with most things, there are different sides to it and the truth is smack in the middle.

Sure, none of us are doctors, none of us are there, and all of that. Sure, sure. So our speculation is just that but at the same time there's nothing wrong I suppose with coming to conclusions based on what we know. This isn't a trial by jury, after all; it's just a dern message board. Those ledges you see us jumping off of are not real.

We know that multiple journalists have reported TO to be going full-out during his workouts. They could of course be wrong but it seems awfully convenient for Cowboy fans to assume the worst of journalists and the best of TO.

We know the MRI came back negative. There is some disagreement over the extent of the injury claimed but the consensus seems to be that it's a relatively slight injury. TO himself has described it as soreness.

And last but not least, we know TO can be an insufferable trouble-making prick. This one's not a matter of debate.

 

[Clove]

I'll say this for the last time. If you've had a hamstring pull or tweak, it will bother you all year long, and your speed (if you have any) will be done. If he comes out to practice, and tweaks or pull his hamstring, his year is finished. I know for a fact.