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[BigDFan5]

Now lets look at the last 2 years

Dallas has drafted 6 starters

Washinton has 3

 

[BigDFan5]

Come on Riggo where did you go? Did you have to go make a thread on extreme asking for help in your debate?

 

[riggo]

I made a list of players Dallas drafted starting for us 3 pages or so ago, you ducked it totally.

Julius Jones
Lousaka Polite
Jason Witten
Al Johnson
Flozell Adams
Patrick Crayton
Marcus Spears
Chris Canty
Demarcus Ware
Keith Davis
Roy Williams
Terrence Newman
Bradie James

There is 13 starters off the top of my head, now list Washingtons players they drafted that now start

all i said about dallas draft was this- "everybody talks about building through the draft- most of dallas' O as well a a bunch of defensive starters are from FA signings."

what part of that was inaccurate?

you said this -
"Cowboys even with their horrible drafts of the 2000-2001 era still have more drafted starters than the Skins, and not just a couple more, about double the amount. To say the Commanders are even close in terms of draft success is laughable at best."

i provided with a link that showed the skins drafted better between 99 and 03. are you taking issue with the info in the link?

youre accusing me a ducking. you made a claim. unless you have a list of skins players, why would you make that claim?

 

[riggo]

heres a list of all the picks since 99

2005
1 Carlos Rogers DB Auburn- starter
2 Jason Campbell QB Auburn - bench
3 Manuel White RB UCLA -backup
4 Robert McCune LB Louisville - may start this year
5 Jared Newberry LB Stanford -tenn
6 Nehemiah Broughton RB Citadel - backup
2004
1 Sean Taylor DB Miami (FL) - starter
2 Chris Cooley TE Utah State -starter
3 Mark Wilson T California -?
4 Jim Molinaro T Notre Dame -backup
2003
1 Taylor Jacobs WR Florida- bust
2 Derrick Dockery G Texas -starter
3 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana -?
2002
1 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane -starter???/traded
2 Ladell Betts RB Iowa -backup
3 Rashad Bauman DB Oregon -?
4 Cliff Russell WR Utah -?
5 Andre Lott DB Tennessee -?
6 Robert Royal TE Louisiana State- starter?/signed big contract with pats
7 Reggie Coleman T Tennessee -?
8 Jeff Grau TE UCLA -?
9 Gregory Scott DE Hampton-?
10 Rock Cartwright RB Kansas State - backup
2001
1 Rod Gardner WR Clemson - not so good...GB
2 Fred Smoot DB Mississippi State - starter/minn
3 Sage Rosenfels QB Iowa State - miami
4 Darnerian McCants WR Delaware State-philly
5 Mario Monds DT Cincinnati -?
2000
1 LaVar Arrington LB Penn State- starter/FA
2 Chris Samuels T Alabama -starter
3 Lloyd Harrison DB North Carolina State-?
4 Michael Moore G Troy State -falcons
5 Quincy Sanders DB UNLV -?
6 Todd Husak QB Stanford -?
7 Delbert Cowsette DT Maryland -?
8 Ethan Howell WR Oklahoma State-?
1999
1 Champ Bailey DB Georgia - starter/den
2 Jon Jansen- starter

 

[BigDFan5]

all i said about dallas draft was this- "everybody talks about building through the draft- most of dallas' O as well a a bunch of defensive starters are from FA signings."

what part of that was inaccurate?

Lets see Most means majority and since 6-7 of our O starters were drafted by us that throws most out the window

and a bunch of defenders? How much is a bunch? because the number of FA defenders we have starting is 3 is 3 a bunch?

you said this -
"Cowboys even with their horrible drafts of the 2000-2001 era still have more drafted starters than the Skins, and not just a couple more, about double the amount. To say the Commanders are even close in terms of draft success is laughable at best."

This is correct

i provided with a link that showed the skins drafted better between 99 and 03. are you taking issue with the info in the link?

The link showed nothing no names, no mention of if they are curently with the team etc. go look at your roster and be honest

youre accusing me a ducking. you made a claim. unless you have a list of skins players, why would you make that claim?

I know exactly how many players drafted by the Commanders are starting for your team, obviously you do not know how many.

 

[BigDFan5]

heres a list of all the picks since 99

2005
1 Carlos Rogers DB Auburn- starter
2 Jason Campbell QB Auburn - bench
3 Manuel White RB UCLA -backup
4 Robert McCune LB Louisville - may start this year
5 Jared Newberry LB Stanford -tenn
6 Nehemiah Broughton RB Citadel - backup
2004
1 Sean Taylor DB Miami (FL) - starter
2 Chris Cooley TE Utah State -starter
3 Mark Wilson T California -?
4 Jim Molinaro T Notre Dame -backup
2003
1 Taylor Jacobs WR Florida- bust
2 Derrick Dockery G Texas -starter
3 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana -?
2002
1 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane -starter???/traded
2 Ladell Betts RB Iowa -backup
3 Rashad Bauman DB Oregon -?
4 Cliff Russell WR Utah -?
5 Andre Lott DB Tennessee -?
6 Robert Royal TE Louisiana State- starter?/signed big contract with pats
7 Reggie Coleman T Tennessee -?
8 Jeff Grau TE UCLA -?
9 Gregory Scott DE Hampton-?
10 Rock Cartwright RB Kansas State - backup
2001
1 Rod Gardner WR Clemson - not so good...GB
2 Fred Smoot DB Mississippi State - starter/minn
3 Sage Rosenfels QB Iowa State - miami
4 Darnerian McCants WR Delaware State-philly
5 Mario Monds DT Cincinnati -?
2000
1 LaVar Arrington LB Penn State- starter/FA
2 Chris Samuels T Alabama -starter
3 Lloyd Harrison DB North Carolina State-?
4 Michael Moore G Troy State -falcons
5 Quincy Sanders DB UNLV -?
6 Todd Husak QB Stanford -?
7 Delbert Cowsette DT Maryland -?
8 Ethan Howell WR Oklahoma State-?
1999
1 Champ Bailey DB Georgia - starter/den
2 Jon Jansen- starter

Get this garbage out of here and start answering the question istead of making yourself look even more ignorant.


Here is the question lets see if you can be honest


RIGHT NOW How many of the Commanders starters were drafted by the Commanders

 

[riggo]

Lets see Most means majority and since 6-7 of our O starters were drafted by us that throws most out the window

you mentioned

witten
jones
johnson
flozell
polite

who did i miss?

The link showed nothing no names, no mention of if they are curently with the team etc. go look at your roster and be honest

youre saying drafhistory.com is inaccurate? based on what?

I know exactly how many players drafted by the Commanders are starting for your team, obviously you do not know how many.

of course you do. which is why i've asked you several times for a list and you havent given me one.

 

[BigDFan5]

you mentioned

witten
jones
johnson
flozell

who did i miss?

Can you not read? I have posted the list twice I will not post it again

youre saying drafhistory.com is inaccurate? based on what?

Based on the fact that it didnt account for all the drafts, it didnt account for players that are not on your team now, based on the fact that is wasnt updated, based on the fact that it is incomplete

of course you do. which is why i've asked you several times for a list and you havent given me one

I am trying to see if you can be honset and its obvious you can't. I ask again name the Commanders starters right now that the Commanders drafted, The reason you will not do this is because by doing it you will prove me right so you will sidestep the question over and over again. Thus you have shown everyone reading you are nothing but a troll that can not back up anything he says congrats on that

 

[riggo]

Get this garbage out of here and start answering the question istead of making yourself look even more ignorant.


Here is the question lets see if you can be honest


RIGHT NOW How many of the Commanders starters were drafted by the Commanders

i just gave you a list of the entire draft class since 99 with 'starter' next to those who are starting.

and this, after you keep insisting you have a list.

what are you talking about?

 

[riggo]

Can you not read? I have posted the list twice I will not post it again

thats only 5 starters. not 6-7 like you said.

nice attempt to deflect.


'can you not read' :lol: this from the guy who keeps asking me for a list i already provided.....

 

[BigDFan5]

i just gave you a list of the entire draft class since 99 with 'starter' next to those who are starting.

and this, after you keep insisting you have a list.

what are you talking about?

oh poor riggo. You listed every draft pick from 99 or whatever which is not what i asked for.

Go look at the Commanders roster count how many starters on that roster were drafted by the Commanders and then come back here and type their names out, and then hit "submit reply"

 

[BigDFan5]

thats only 5 starters. not 6-7 like you said.

nice attempt to deflect.


'can you not read' :lol: this from the guy who keeps asking me for a list i already provided.....

Witten
Johnson
Adams
Pettiti
Crayton
Polite
Jones

Granted Pettiti may lose hi starting job but he hasnt yet.

 

[riggo]

oh poor riggo. You listed every draft pick from 99 or whatever which is not what i asked for.

Go look at the Commanders roster count how many starters on that roster were drafted by the Commanders and then come back here and type their names out, and then hit "submit reply"

i put the word 'starter' next to every player that starts.

you can do the math.

 

[BigDFan5]

i put the word 'starter' next to every player that starts.

you can do the math.

So what your saying is you will not be honest and go find the players that currently start for the Commanders that they drafted?

 

[riggo]

Witten
Johnson
Adams
Pettiti
Crayton
Polite
Jones

Granted Pettiti may lose hi starting job but he hasnt yet.

pettiti wasnt on your first list, which is why i asked if i missed anyone, to which your smart*** reply was 'can you not read?'. next time, save the sarcasm and just answer the question- then i wont have to correct your mistakes.

crayton is #3. hardly a starter.

so where are your 6-7 starters on O, and 'about twice as many drafted starters on dallas then the skins'?

 

[riggo]

So what your saying is you will not be honest and go find the players that currently start for the Commanders that they drafted?

i'm sorry. i gave you the ENTIRE LIST. they have freaking STARTER next to their name. i am not your go-fer. add them up yourself for gods sake.

 

[BigDFan5]

pettiti wasnt on your first list, which is why i asked if i missed anyone, to which your smart*** reply was 'can you not read?'. next time, save the sarcasm and just answer the question- then i wont have to correct your mistakes.

crayton is #3. hardly a starter.

so where are your 6-7 starters on O, and 'about twice as many drafted starters on dallas then the skins'?

everytime we started a 3 WR set Crayton started. Parcells himself calls the 3rd WR a starter

 

[riggo]

2005
1 Carlos Rogers DB Auburn- starter
2 Jason Campbell QB Auburn - bench
3 Manuel White RB UCLA -backup
4 Robert McCune LB Louisville - may start this year
5 Jared Newberry LB Stanford -tenn
6 Nehemiah Broughton RB Citadel - backup
2004
1 Sean Taylor DB Miami (FL) - starter
2 Chris Cooley TE Utah State -starter
3 Mark Wilson T California -?
4 Jim Molinaro T Notre Dame -backup
2003
1 Taylor Jacobs WR Florida- bust
2 Derrick Dockery G Texas -starter
3 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana -?
2002
1 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane -starter???/traded
2 Ladell Betts RB Iowa -backup
3 Rashad Bauman DB Oregon -?
4 Cliff Russell WR Utah -?
5 Andre Lott DB Tennessee -?
6 Robert Royal TE Louisiana State- starter?/signed big contract with pats
7 Reggie Coleman T Tennessee -?
8 Jeff Grau TE UCLA -?
9 Gregory Scott DE Hampton-?
10 Rock Cartwright RB Kansas State - backup
2001
1 Rod Gardner WR Clemson - not so good...GB
2 Fred Smoot DB Mississippi State - starter/minn
3 Sage Rosenfels QB Iowa State - miami
4 Darnerian McCants WR Delaware State-philly
5 Mario Monds DT Cincinnati -?
2000
1 LaVar Arrington LB Penn State- starter/FA
2 Chris Samuels T Alabama -starter
3 Lloyd Harrison DB North Carolina State-?
4 Michael Moore G Troy State -falcons
5 Quincy Sanders DB UNLV -?
6 Todd Husak QB Stanford -?
7 Delbert Cowsette DT Maryland -?
8 Ethan Howell WR Oklahoma State-?
1999
1 Champ Bailey DB Georgia - starter/den
2 Jon Jansen- starter


there ya go. again.

do the math.

 

[BigDFan5]

i'm sorry. i gave you the ENTIRE LIST. they have freaking STARTER next to their name. i am not your go-fer. add them up yourself for gods sake.

Hey its not my fault you can not read well enough to follow instructions. Its not up to me to clean your mess.

Name the Commanders starters that they drafted

 

[riggo]

Hey its not my fault you can not read well enough to follow instructions. Its not up to me to clean your mess.

its not my fault you arent competent enough to type up a list of your own starters. next time, follow my instructions and save yourself the embarrassment.

Name the Commanders starters that they drafted

i did. what next?