DMN: Dan Reeves: You can't win with distractions, different agendas

[WV Cowboy]

It is absolutely mind-boggling to me that educated football fans could watch something as pathetic as our last game against the Eagles, the end of the Ravens game, or our debacle in St. Louis and come to the conclusion, ... "It's Owens, .. we need to get rid of Owens."

Mind-boggling.

Since he has been in Dallas, I don't think he has done anything close to what was reported him having done in Philly or SF.

Is he peculiar? Yes. Does he represent the Cowboys in exactly the way we all want? No.

But are you saying that by replacing him, "all is well in Dallas?"

If 52 guys are so negatively impacted by one person, then they are a bunch of spineless, whiny-butt pansies.

So if we do get rid of T.O., we still have a bunch of spineless, whiny-butt pansies.

I appreciate what he brings to the team, but if we could somehow replace his production then I don't care if he is here next year or not.

As long as we get the same production from our next #1 WR.

So I hope whomever is deciding his fate in Dallas, is considering everything, and not just what the media cries about.

Like I said, if he is gone, fine. I only hope we have a plan to replace all that he brings to the football field.

 

[jterrell]

wait shouldnt one of us post this...




:bang2::bang2::bang2::bang2::bang2::bang2::bang2:

and the beat goes on...

the post padding continues.

Its just the offseason.

All teams have guys that challenge each other to fights in the locker room.

All teams have players who make rap videos with racial and gender slurs.

You couldnt understand, your not a player and you dont keep it real like these young guys.

Pot meet kettle.

:violin::violin::violin::violin::violin:

rofl.

what i most enjoy is how no one mentions that the title of the blog is well. a lie.

Reeves is never quoted as saying that. He mentions how distractions hurt the team but never says you can't win with them.

I also like how McMahon surmises he answers the issues with injuries then loss of confidence.... then he gets to the heart of the matter, ahahahahaha.

agenda, much???

 

[Chocolate Lab]

But are you saying that by replacing him, "all is well in Dallas?"

I will never understand this oft-repeated line of thinking.

Of course TO isn't everything that's wrong. So what? No problem we have is the cause of everything that's wrong.

So does that mean we shouldn't do anything about any of our problems?

Not just aiming this at you WV, because tons of people have said it.

 

[Rampage]

I will never understand this oft-repeated line of thinking.

Of course TO isn't everything that's wrong. So what? No problem we have is the cause of everything that's wrong.

So does that mean we shouldn't do anything about any of our problems?

Not just aiming this at you WV, because tons of people have said it.

:clap2:

 

[WV Cowboy]

I will never understand this oft-repeated line of thinking.

Of course TO isn't everything that's wrong. So what? No problem we have is the cause of everything that's wrong.

So does that mean we shouldn't do anything about any of our problems?

Not just aiming this at you WV, because tons of people have said it.

Like I said, we can get rid of him. I don't care.

But if we don't replace what he brings on Sunday, our offense suffers.

And things get worse.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Like I said, we can get rid of him.

But if we don't replace what he brings on Sunday, our offense suffers.

And things get worse.

How do we know this?

The Cowboys are one of the few teams that are in a great position to get rid of a player like Terrell Owens.

 

[CF74]

It is absolutely mind-boggling to me that educated football fans could watch something as pathetic as our last game against the Eagles, the end of the Ravens game, or our debacle in St. Louis and come to the conclusion, ... "It's Owens, .. we need to get rid of Owens."

Mind-boggling.

Since he has been in Dallas, I don't think he has done anything close to what was reported him having done in Philly or SF.

Is he peculiar? Yes. Does he represent the Cowboys in exactly the way we all want? No.

But are you saying that by replacing him, "all is well in Dallas?"

If 52 guys are so negatively impacted by one person, then they are a bunch of spineless, whiny-butt pansies.

So if we do get rid of T.O., we still have a bunch of spineless, whiny-butt pansies.

I appreciate what he brings to the team, but if we could somehow replace his production then I don't care if he is here next year or not.

As long as we get the same production from our next #1 WR.

So I hope whomever is deciding his fate in Dallas, is considering everything, and not just what the media cries about.

Like I said, if he is gone, fine. I only hope we have a plan to replace all that he brings to the football field.

:clap2:

 

[WV Cowboy]

How do we know this?

I'm sure if we could ask any DC that plays the Cowboys, he would say that he spends a lot of time preparing his team to account for Owens.

If we lose that and don't replace it, .. well you do the math.

8 in the box would be common, and the running game would be impacted big time.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

It is absolutely mind-boggling to me that educated football fans could watch something as pathetic as our last game against the Eagles, the end of the Ravens game, or our debacle in St. Louis and come to the conclusion, ... "It's Owens, .. we need to get rid of Owens."

Mind-boggling.

Since he has been in Dallas, I don't think he has done anything close to what was reported him having done in Philly or SF.

Is he peculiar? Yes. Does he represent the Cowboys in exactly the way we all want? No.

But are you saying that by replacing him, "all is well in Dallas?"

If 52 guys are so negatively impacted by one person, then they are a bunch of spineless, whiny-butt pansies.

So if we do get rid of T.O., we still have a bunch of spineless, whiny-butt pansies.

I appreciate what he brings to the team, but if we could somehow replace his production then I don't care if he is here next year or not.

As long as we get the same production from our next #1 WR.

So I hope whomever is deciding his fate in Dallas, is considering everything, and not just what the media cries about.

Like I said, if he is gone, fine. I only hope we have a plan to replace all that he brings to the football field.

You know, I've been one that wouldn't shed a tear if TO is gone. IMO, he produces more after the game than he does during the game ... or at least this year.

But, you do bring up some valid points. Who does replace him? Hopefully and entire offseason with Romo will put RW11 in that position.

Dang it WV, now you have me reconsidering.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

You know, I've been one that wouldn't shed a tear if TO is gone. IMO, he produces more after the game than he does during the game ... or at least this year.

But, you do bring up some valid points. Who does replace him? Hopefully and entire offseason with Romo will put RW11 in that position.

Dang it WV, now you have me reconsidering.

You're not allowed to reconsider around here. It's simply not done ;-)

 

[WV Cowboy]

You know, I've been one that wouldn't shed a tear if TO is gone. IMO, he produces more after the game than he does during the game ... or at least this year.

I can't really agree with this totally, but I do see your point. I can't believe Jones or Calvin Hill or somebody doesn't council him on what not to say, what to say, and how to say it the right way.

But, you do bring up some valid points. Who does replace him? Hopefully and entire offseason with Romo will put RW11 in that position.

Dang it WV, now you have me reconsidering.

If Owens is gone, that is our only hope.

But from what I saw from RW11, (who I am glad is here) I would hate to hang the entire 09 season on him.

 

[wileedog]

I'm sure if we could ask any DC that plays the Cowboys, he would say that he spends a lot of time preparing his team to account for Owens.

If we lose that and don't replace it, .. well you do the math.

8 in the box would be common, and the running game would be impacted big time.

So should we pack in the season if Owens goes down the first game?

If they put 8 in the box than Roy Williams and Witten need to step up. Or Genius OC needs to figure out how to use the weapons he has, which are still more than most teams field. Pittsburgh has gone to the SB 2 out of 3 years with Hines Ward as their best WR. I like Ward, but he's not TO on the field (or off of it).

Why did we hire a defensive coach if we were going to rely on an offense to put up 35 a game to win? Why are we paying $3M to an OC who can't win without Owens despite having an offense that features 7 out of 10 starters other than him who have been to a Pro Bowl in their careers? And that doesn't include Felix who I think will get there in short order if he stays healthy.

You complained people were making the false extreme statement "Everything will be better without Owens" and then turn around and imply "Everything is doomed without Owens"

What are we, the Dallas Owens'?

 

[Alexander]

Like I said, we can get rid of him. I don't care.

But if we don't replace what he brings on Sunday, our offense suffers.

And things get worse.

I would be entirely on-board with getting Owens out of here had Roy Williams showed anything close to what we thought we were trading for. I never expected him to light up the scoreboard. I did expect a little more motivated and impressive player. He just did not show much of anything and frankly was a liability at the end of the season.

 

[Alexander]

Why did we hire a defensive coach if we were going to rely on an offense to put up 35 a game to win? Why are we paying $3M to an OC who can't win without Owens despite having an offense that features 7 out of 10 starters other than him who have been to a Pro Bowl in their careers?

Good questions that need to be asked of the general manager.

 

[DallasEast]

So should we pack in the season if Owens goes down the first game?

If they put 8 in the box than Roy Williams and Witten need to step up. Or Genius OC needs to figure out how to use the weapons he has, which are still more than most teams field. Pittsburgh has gone to the SB 2 out of 3 years with Hines Ward as their best WR. I like Ward, but he's not TO on the field (or off of it).

Why did we hire a defensive coach if we were going to rely on an offense to put up 35 a game to win? Why are we paying $3M to an OC who can't win without Owens despite having an offense that features 7 out of 10 starters other than him who have been to a Pro Bowl in their careers? And that doesn't include Felix who I think will get there in short order if he stays healthy.

You complained people were making the false extreme statement "Everything will be better without Owens" and then turn around and imply "Everything is doomed without Owens"

What are we, the Dallas Owens'?

:wink2:

 

[Dhragon]

I'm sure if we could ask any DC that plays the Cowboys, he would say that he spends a lot of time preparing his team to account for Owens.

If we lose that and don't replace it, .. well you do the math.

8 in the box would be common, and the running game would be impacted big time.

It is a bit of a gamble for sure. The Giants got better when they dumped the distracting Shockey and Tiki retired, but they slumped when Plaxico was suspended.

So what would it be with the Cowboys? We don't know!

But cutting Owens WOULD send a VERY huge message to everyone on the team that no one is safe if you don't tow the line, not even if you are a pet of the owner/GM. That could be huge. Potentially even much bigger than the loss in production such a cut would bring.

Right now, no one is scared of being cut by the Cupcake or by Jerry if they are at all productive. That is not a good thing. A little uneasiness might be what some need to get their focus back to where it belongs - on their job.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

But cutting Owens WOULD send a VERY huge message to everyone on the team that no one is safe if you don't tow the line, not even if you are a pet of the owner/GM. That could be huge. Potentially even much bigger than the loss in production such a cut would bring.

This is exactly what this team needs. A wake up call that says no one is safe regardless of your salary or position on the team. Get in step or get out.

 

[WV Cowboy]

So should we pack in the season if Owens goes down the first game?

Stupid question.

If they put 8 in the box than Roy Williams and Witten need to step up.

True, but they didn't this year.

Or Genius OC needs to figure out how to use the weapons he has, which are still more than most teams field.

True, but he didn't this year.

Pittsburgh has gone to the SB 2 out of 3 years with Hines Ward as their best WR. I like Ward, but he's not TO on the field.

False, as much as it pains me to say, Ward is real good.

Why did we hire a defensive coach if we were going to rely on an offense to put up 35 a game to win?

Agreed

Why are we paying $3M to an OC who can't win without Owens despite having an offense that features 7 out of 10 starters other than him who have been to a Pro Bowl in their careers? And that doesn't include Felix who I think will get there in short order if he stays healthy.

Agreed

You complained people were making the false extreme statement "Everything will be better without Owens" and then turn around and imply "Everything is doomed without Owens"

I said if Owens is gone and we don't replace him.

What are we, the Dallas Owens'?

Another stupid question.

 

[jterrell]

You know, I've been one that wouldn't shed a tear if TO is gone. IMO, he produces more after the game than he does during the game ... or at least this year.

But, you do bring up some valid points. Who does replace him? Hopefully and entire offseason with Romo will put RW11 in that position.

Dang it WV, now you have me reconsidering.

If anyone is so firmly entrenched on either side of this argument then imho they are just pig-headed. There are strong arguments ot be made for both sides and even then it is going to be close.

Terrell is a shiny attention seeking star. He also has 3 years here of very strong performances and little to suggest he is outside the norm at the WR position in terms of crying for the ball or being me first. The most explosive thing T.O. did was call Werder a liar... after he next questioned him for a few weeks. Not sure that merits the vitriole the guy receives here.

At the same time there would be no bigger message about team unity than cutting the him or Romo. Not that Romo isn't a team guy but that's about the only louder message to send is cutting your starting QB. So perhaps he can be a example but not sure he has actually done anything to deserve the axe.

End of the day what makes Dallas better? I don't think any of us can know for certain. I lean to keeping his talent but it is just a leaning.

 

[Chief]

I would be entirely on-board with getting Owens out of here had Roy Williams showed anything close to what we thought we were trading for. I never expected him to light up the scoreboard. I did expect a little more motivated and impressive player. He just did not show much of anything and frankly was a liability at the end of the season.

This is just a theory, but I think Terrell Owens and his huge shadow being in Dallas isn't good for Roy Williams.

Owens is such a forceful, dominant personality, that Williams seems content to slack off, run a few routes as the No. 2 guy and just enjoy the circus. Of course, he'll whine a little bit, because in this day and age, that's almost what is expected of receivers.

If Owens is gone, and the coaches sit Williams down and give him a "come to Jesus talk," telling him that the franchise gave up a lot for him, that he is critical to the team's success, that he needs to assert himself as the No. 1 receiver, then I think he might come around and accept the challenge. Austin would be a nice No. 2 to go along with Williams and Crayton could remain the slot receiver, where he's best suited.

But if Owens stays, I see Williams' personality as someone who will just do enough to get by and let Owens continue with all the drama and be the No. 1 guy. Like it or not, I think Williams needs to be built up, prodded and told he's the No. 1 guy for him to be able to really excel in this environment. That can't happen with Owens here.