News: DMN: George: Cowboys want Murray back but source says no progress yet on new deal

[Doomsday101]

This is what I expect. More platooning with Randle to ensure longevity but productive and a locker room leader whose play sets the tone for the entire team.

Some will call it a drop off not getting the same yards or more but truth is it is not about breaking a record then repeating it the next season it is about consistent production at a high level. I don't know if Murray will reach the mark he set this year but he does not have to, to still be highly productive and to help this team win games.

 

[Idgit]

Reading the actual article, it kind of gives a very different picture. They want him back if he's cheap.

“There are very few backs who really differentiate themselves, like an Emmitt Smith or a Barry Sanders, an Adrian Peterson,” Stephen Jones said. “Of course, with the year DeMarco had if he continues to duplicate that you might put him in the same sentence.

Ie, he's not special, and there might be an actual special back out there. And we're rightly saving the big money for Dez. I'm ok with this.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Reading the actual article, it kind of gives a very different picture. They want him back if he's cheap.



Ie, he's not special, and there might be an actual special back out there. And we're rightly saving the big money for Dez. I'm ok with this.

I read that sentence totally different. I don't think they're saying he's not special. I think they want to make sure he's not a one-year wonder and rightfully so. He's been injured, so you can't really say yea or nay as to his specialness.

So the kind of deal I could see them offering is market, plus incentives

 

[Crown Royal]

The key is not re-signing Murray and Murray being as productive. 100% guarantee that he will not match his 2014 numbers.

The key is that when the defense thinks he is done, he can still punish them, force them to play the run, and continue to allow Romo to mangle defenses. The entire running game basically dropped in production by December, and that's both Murray and the run blocking. But that's because teams decided they had enough, loaded up on the run, and freed Romo to throw against better coverage than he has seen in his entire NFL career as a starter.

I don't see Joseph Randle as being a guy who will scare defenses as consistently. Murray may only get 3.5-4 yards a carry, but so long as we are in 2nd and 6 consistently, I am 100% OK with that. My fear with Randle is that I will have a good number of 1st down runs that get me 8+, but that I'll also have a good number of 1st down runs that get me a yard or two.

 

[Crown Royal]

The flip side of the argument is do I think that Murray can beat up on 7 man fronts while the defense stays in a cover two shell for another couple of years. I think that yes, he can.

 

[Bowdown27]

I think MURRAY comes back. We've started something he wants to be apart of. I do want randle getting more carries tho if MURRAY is back. Need to spell him a lot more.

 

[Idgit]

I read that sentence totally different. I don't think they're saying he's not special. I think they want to make sure he's not a one-year wonder and rightfully so. He's been injured, so you can't really say yea or nay as to his specialness.

So the kind of deal I could see them offering is market, plus incentives

Well, they're saying he's not Adrian Peterson. As of now. And 'as of now' is all that really matters for their purposes. To me, that reads that they're not going to give him big money.

I like how the Cowboys handle the public parts of their negotiations. Always very positive about the player. But it's pretty obvious what's going on here. They've got a number they're comfortable with for Murray, and it's not elite money. He'll have to get that elsewhere if he wants it. Though it is interesting (to me at least) that they reference another back who's still in the league and who might become available when they're talking about that baseline for a special player. Or, i guess, a 'differentiated' player.

 

[LatinMind]

The Cowboys executive vice president made it clear the club wants to re-sign the league’s leading rusher.

The running back from Las Vegas bet on himself before the season started and now is in position to cash in.

A source close to Murray said Wednesday the Cowboys want to re-sign the Pro Bowl running back, though no progress has been made on a new deal.

Murray’s representatives visited with Jones and other Cowboys officials for about 20 minutes in the stands during a practice at the Senior Bowl on Wednesday.

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Nobody doubts Dallas wants Murray back, but not at the price he wants. This says nothing that common sense and the joneses havent said. Cowboys are doing what all teams do. Play the PR game.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm still shocked at how some fans are so willing to let Murray go but willing to waste 100 million on Suh lol.

 

[CCBoy]

One can get all indignant about current cash flow theories...but the simple truth on the field is that such a quality performance on the field, and that outshines all other players, is still needed back on the field as a point of future developments and improvements. That one just doesn't improve with unproven solutions.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

One can get all indignant about current cash flow theories...but the simple truth on the field is that such a quality performance on the field, and that outshines all other players, is still needed back on the field as a point of future developments and improvements. That one just doesn't improve with unproven solutions.

Yeah I don't understand the approach myself. My only stance on Demarco is do not outbid yourself. And they're not. You just can't sit here and assume this team can't be effected by their core of leaders changing. Demarco means just as much to this team is Witten, Dez and Romo. Not just on the field but off it as well.

 

[RoboQB]

I thought it was interesting and just a bit more than a coincidence that Michael Irvin picked Mark Ingram for the Pro Bowl.
Knowing he had first choice fr the coaching staff, now the coaches can see Ingram up close and personal.

I still want Murray. Call it nostalgia. The idea of keeping your core players is important to me. What happens if we miss on
the alternative? What if Melvin Gordon is gone early? What if he's an NFL bust? What if Peterson isn't re-instated or decides he
wants a ridiculous contract? I would rather "stick with the devil you know".

I think a 4 year deal just over 5mil per year and some back room talk of endorsements should be enough to keep Murray.

By the way, I do expect the "what if" theme of this post to be attacked. Someone responded to one of these type posts with
"what if rabbits had wings and crapped gold coins?".... The funniest post I'd ever read.... Hilarious!

 

[LatinMind]

I'm still shocked at how some fans are so willing to let Murray go but willing to waste 100 million on Suh lol.

You think if Dallas give him a 4 yr deal they are going to run him the way they did this yr? He would be done by the end of 2015 and damaged goods for the remaining 3 yrs. They knew what they were doing this yr. They know they cant afford him at the money they want. They have said that themselves just 3 days ago. But because a article came out yesterday all of the sudden everybody wants to forget what they said just the day prior. Alot of you always say dont get sucked in by media but most of you fall victim to your own advice.

 

[CCBoy]

You think if Dallas give him a 4 yr deal they are going to run him the way they did this yr? He would be done by the end of 2015 and damaged goods for the remaining 3 yrs. They knew what they were doing this yr. They know they cant afford him at the money they want. They have said that themselves just 3 days ago. But because a article came out yesterday all of the sudden everybody wants to forget what they said just the day prior. Alot of you always say dont get sucked in by media but most of you fall victim to your own advice.

That ignores contributory ability with a well drafted addition and expanding roles by Randle and Dunbar.

 

[Doomsday101]

Nobody doubts Dallas wants Murray back, but not at the price he wants. This says nothing that common sense and the joneses havent said. Cowboys are doing what all teams do. Play the PR game.

I have yet to hear what Murray wants, we know he did not want 4 mill a year but I have not heard what his demands are.

 

[WoodysGirl]

 

[Direwolf63]

When Stephen Jones talks about Murray's "entire body of work", you know that what the Cowboys are offering is not top dollar, but something significantly less than that. My guess is that it's in the $5M to $5.5M range. If the average is higher than that, I would expect that the deal is likely back end loaded such that the Cowboys can get out of the last couple of years pretty easily.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

3 years, 16 million, club option 4th.

I don't think he will be here and if he is, his stats will be

1200 yards, 3.7 YPC, 8 TDS

Sounds good, I thin it's close.

I think Murray is part of "unfinished business" and they will want the band back together to try again.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You think if Dallas give him a 4 yr deal they are going to run him the way they did this yr? He would be done by the end of 2015 and damaged goods for the remaining 3 yrs. They knew what they were doing this yr. They know they cant afford him at the money they want. They have said that themselves just 3 days ago. But because a article came out yesterday all of the sudden everybody wants to forget what they said just the day prior. Alot of you always say dont get sucked in by media but most of you fall victim to your own advice.

That makes no sense. The more you ran him the more his price tag went up I would think. His price tag would've been a lot cheaper at 1200-1300 yards than it was at 1800.

And they can afford Demarco. That's media drivel. If they want him back they can essentially bring him back just be restructuring some guys. It all depends if they want to. And I believe they want to at a good price. I think its bigger than what's on the field. They value what he does off the field and their locker room as well. There's a sort of "unfinished business" mantra with this team and I think they want to keep the core in tack to do that.

No one knows what Demarco's value is at this point. Including the Cowboys because no one knows what the running back market is. It hasn't been this weak......since free agency came into play.

 

[DanTanna]

I fully expect Murray to miss at least 5 games next year regardless of what team he in on. And if he signs with the Cowboys he very well may miss 7-8 to "pay us back" for this season of not missing a game during his contract year. It would be great if we could pay him on a per game basis - otherwise, let him be another team's salary albatross.