DMN: Jets Courting Miles Austin

[TheSport78]

Ok...let's say we do.....who you gonna take? Who's your 2nd now? Hurd? Crayton? Will be the slowest offense in the NFL with the exception of Felix. Harvin won't be there and is real injury prone, Robiske is going to be good IMO, but slow. I mean who ya gonna get???? Keep Miles.

I get a reliable WR like Juaquin Iglesias who will at the very least match Austin's production. We forget to realize the FELIX JONES is our speed factor on offense; hopefully in the running AND passing game.

 

[juck]

Who passes the ball more than the Saints?

How many teams have a better QB?

And the Saints line i arguably better than the Cowboys line too.

I can't see any reason for Slingin' Sean Payton to needlessly bench a stud receiver.

And a first rounder at that.

maybe the kid has issues upstairs.who knows?I know one thing,the steelers won a sb with average wrs,stat wise.NE won a few with average guys.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

The Saints O-Line is a much better pass blocking O-Line than ours. Even with all those passes I believe I heard them say the other night that Brees was only sacked 13 times last year.

If our O-Line blocked for the pass that well then we make the playoffs last season instead of missing them.

And yes Owens and Roy were ahead of Austin but then again so was Crayton. He's had 3 years now to beat out Crayton as a better #3 or #2 option on this team and he's yet to be able to do it. A big part of that is that he can't seem to stay healthy long enough to do so but then even when he is healthy he hasn't been able to quite unseat Crayton from being ahead of him yet.

Heck, in fact, in 4 out of Craytons 5 seasons he's had more receptions for the year than Austin has in 3 years combined. The only time that wasn't true was his rookie year where he caught only 12 passes. He also has just as many TD catches in his career as Austin has receptions.

Again I really like Austin, a lot, but this idea that even if we keep him it means he's going to immediately become the #2 isn't really all that accurate. He still has to prove that he's a better option, consistantly, than Crayton is and to this point he's not been able to do that.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Actually it made plenty of sense. The guy asked you what has Miles done in the Nfl or in college. Your response was ""That's more than I can say for a 2nd round pick from college who has NEVER played a down in NFL...against elite competition".



Using the same ridiculous argument Stanback has also faced elite competition and Austin has about 10 more catches then he had last season. In other words kill the elite competition argument. Miles has never faced a #1 corner on the other side. I doubt he face a #2 so the elite comp argument makes no sense. Get it.

And the fact that he only has 10 more despite playing WR while in college, while you're trying to compare him to a guy who played QB in college, is pretty sad.

A converted QB to WR comparison isn't really a great comparison, IMO.

 

[Stash]

maybe the kid has issues upstairs.who knows?I know one thing,the steelers won a sb with average wrs,stat wise.NE won a few with average guys.

I'll give you New England, but Pittsburgh's receivers aren't average.

Heck, their #3 receiver just got signed to a big money deal by the Titans.

Recent Super Bowl winners have had quality wide receivers.

I'm not just looking at Miles Austin in a vacuum, based solely on where he came from and what he's done.

I'm factoring in his limited opportunities, as well as how this team needs him with Owens gone, coupled with their inability to draft receivers on their own.

All of those issues factor into the equation for me.

 

[cowboyjoe]

ok, we know the jets are interested,

maybe miami;

how about if we trade miles austin for a 2nd and say a 5th rounder or so or maybe a 2nd and a future pick;

what do you think about that, then you can get a good player in the 2nd round, along with your other 2nd rounder;

 

[JonJon]

Sorry, I didn't read all seven pages so I don't know if this was mentioned, but if Jerry let Owens go because of what he saw in Austin, then why would Jerry will let Austin walk?

But if he does, I would be satisfied if we could come away with Britt, Nicks, Robiskie, or Williams.

 

[Stash]

The Saints O-Line is a much better pass blocking O-Line than ours. Even with all those passes I believe I heard them say the other night that Brees was only sacked 13 times last year.

If our O-Line blocked for the pass that well then we make the playoffs last season instead of missing them.

And yes Owens and Roy were ahead of Austin but then again so was Crayton. He's had 3 years now to beat out Crayton as a better #3 or #2 option on this team and he's yet to be able to do it. A big part of that is that he can't seem to stay healthy long enough to do so but then even when he is healthy he hasn't been able to quite unseat Crayton from being ahead of him yet.

Heck, in fact, in 4 out of Craytons 5 seasons he's had more receptions for the year than Austin has in 3 years combined. The only time that wasn't true was his rookie year where he caught only 12 passes. He also has just as many TD catches in his career as Austin has receptions.

Again I really like Austin, a lot, but this idea that even if we keep him it means he's going to immediately become the #2 isn't really all that accurate. He still has to prove that he's a better option, consistantly, than Crayton is and to this point he's not been able to do that.

I don't think he has to do that to be worth keeping.

He adds a speed dimension that the otheer candidates don't.

Call him #2, or #3, or whatever, but the other receivers don't have his speed.

This offense has enough to prove after Owens.

 

[TheCount]

ok, we know the jets are interested,

maybe miami;

how about if we trade miles austin for a 2nd and say a 5th rounder or so or maybe a 2nd and a future pick;

what do you think about that, then you can get a good player in the 2nd round, along with your other 2nd rounder;

Miles isn't even under contract, so he's not worth anything more than his tender right now.

 

[Noryb]

I don’t know how good the Jets scouting department is but apparently the Jets need a WR and apparently the Jets have decided that Miles Austin is better than any WR that will be available with the 52nd pick in the draft.

It will be interesting to find out whether or not the Cowboys agree with them.

 

[btcutter]

Actually it made plenty of sense. The guy asked you what has Miles done in the Nfl or in college. Your response was ""That's more than I can say for a 2nd round pick from college who has NEVER played a down in NFL...against elite competition".



Using the same ridiculous argument Stanback has also faced elite competition and Austin has about 10 more catches then he had last season. In other words kill the elite competition argument. Miles has never faced a #1 corner on the other side. I doubt he face a #2 so the elite comp argument makes no sense. Get it.

I was answering a post that said "Austin has shown flashes.....". So Miles has shown flashes...that's what we has agreed upon. My reply..."that's more than I can say for any college player since they have NEVER played a down in the NFL".

First of all, no one has offered jack S%@#! for Stanback and probably never well. Anyone remember him catching any long passes in any game or pre season game. 2nd, we are not asking Miles to face #1 CB on the other team. And I am sure he has faced #2 CB of the other team. In fact, he was starting over Crayton in 2 WR set so by definition, he was up against a #2 CB.

People get caught up in the draft thinking they will get the next HOB WR or whatever. Think this way, if you planted some seeds 3 yrs ago and now (one out of many) it's budding....you are going to trade it (the only one budding) away to get another "potentially" better seed and plant it again to see IF it will grow to be better than the one you had? I don't think any farmer will make that trade.

 

[bbgun]

Call him #2, or #3, or whatever, but the other receivers don't have his speed.

Or his style.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I just wish Austin would change his number

but I'm tempted as hell to let Austin go, but if I were Jerry, I'd resist the temptation, and match the offer

 

[Silverstar]

Austin's not a very good route runner IMO. He's more of a one dimensional type player. I'd take the pick and replace him with Louis Murphy in the 3rd or 4th. Same type player.

I agree...Austin is replaceable and on day 2!. Fans clearly (this thread)over-value Austin, but he's got no more potential as a #2 speedy WR than Stanback does IMO. Either of these guys would make me forget Austin...

Murphy 6-3 203 (4.32 speed) at pick #101
Knox 6-0 185 (4.29 speed) at pick #117

I already have Knox in both of my mocks and Patrick Turner and Sammie Stroughter in my last one. In short, I don't have a lot of confidence in Austin or Hurd and haven't seen enough of Stanback or Travis Wilson either. Bottom line, were talking about a guy with just 18 catches folks. At the very least...I'd take the 2nd and run!

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I don't think he has to do that to be worth keeping.

He adds a speed dimension that the otheer candidates don't.

Call him #2, or #3, or whatever, but the other receivers don't have his speed.

This offense has enough to prove after Owens.

I'll grant you the speed for sure. I don't debate that at all. You'd have to get speed somewhere else, but if that's the only real reason for keeping him is the speed then you could do something with some of your extra picks to move up and get a guy like Brey who is also very fast and I think you've given yourself a more polished receiver and still have your speed option.

*Shrugs* I won't be hurt either way. If they keep him, great I like him. If they get a 2nd rounder and let him go, that's cool too I wish him well.

 

[TX_Yid]

Maybe we bring back Wes Welker II from camp last year?

Danny Amendola baby

 

[Noryb]

Fans clearly (this thread)over-value Austin

Are the Jets fans too?

 

[TX_Yid]

Maybe we bring back Wes Welker II from camp last year?

Danny Amendola baby

Scratch that. I forgot Filthy had stolen him

 

[theogt]

Or his style.

Or his smile.

http://cache.********.com/assets/resources/2007/01/MilesAustinSmile.jpg

 

[This is Our Year]

I just wish Austin would change his number

but I'm tempted as hell to let Austin go, but if I were Jerry, I'd resist the temptation, and match the offer

I agree, change the number and chinstrap and he would be set. Not a fan of either look for him.