DMN: Jets Courting Miles Austin

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juckie;2721135 said:
Miles also is a twinkie with injuries.With a good QB and a very good OLINE any WR will have a great year.

You should seriously just stop typing.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2720613 said:
Meh, we'll just match the offer.

Unless it has a poison pill. In which case I have a feeling Jerry would more than get even.

I agree!

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stasheroo;2721137 said:
Yeah, we could get the next Robert Meachem...

For every good receiver drafted, there are at least two busts.

That ratio doubles when you factor in that it's the Cowboys doing the drafting.

They draft receivers almost as well as they do offensive linemen.

You know it's funny you say that.

Robert Meachem 2008 statistics:
12 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TD's; 1 rushing TD

Miles Austin 2008 statistics:
13 receptions, 278 yards and 3 TD's, 0 rushing TD's

Looks eerily similar to me...
 

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sonnyboy;2721102 said:
Each year pro football teams do just that. The "give away"/exercise high draft picks on College players based ENTIRELY on potential.


That's what I was going to write. Teams use second rounders on "potential" every year when they draft them. Austin is actually more of a known commodity than the guys that'll be sitting there in the middle of round 2.

The J-e-t-s, Jets, Jets, Jets must have looked at WR's who they expected to be there at that pick, and thought that Austin was the better choice.

Dallas would be wise to look at it in that fashion as well: Who are we going to get at the WR position in round 2, and would he be better than Austin?

However, like someone said... Austin might want to be in Dallas and if we match the Jets offer, then suddenly we have him signed long term at what must be a reasonable price.
 

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stasheroo;2721137 said:
Yeah, we could get the next Robert Meachem...

For every good receiver drafted, there are at least two busts.

That ratio doubles when you factor in that it's the Cowboys doing the drafting.

They draft receivers almost as well as they do offensive linemen.

Robert Meachem would be fine on a team that will play him and a good oline.
 

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TheSport78;2721128 said:
We haven't invested anything in Miles Austin. The guy wasn't even drafted. If we can get a 2nd round pick for a guy who had 18 receptions last season and 3 TD's. I'll take it. Multiple WR's in this draft can match and do better than Austin in 09'.

What????? Are you nuts? We've invested three years of grooming this kid....it's not about getting a second for a UDFA. Hell, you could say let's trade Romo for a 7th...since he wasn't drafted! That's a good deal.

WR's usually take about three years to get going anyway...just like LB's. Now you wanna throw all that away for the 52nd pick? Crazy!
 

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TheSport78;2721128 said:
We haven't invested anything in Miles Austin. The guy wasn't even drafted. If we can get a 2nd round pick for a guy who had 18 receptions last season and 3 TD's. I'll take it. Multiple WR's in this draft can match and do better than Austin in 09'.

What????? Are you nuts? We've invested three years of grooming this kid....it's not about getting a second for a UDFA. Hell, you could say let's trade Romo for a 7th...since he wasn't drafted! That's a good deal.

WR's usually take about three years to get going anyway...just like LB's. Now you wanna throw all that away for the 52nd pick? Crazy!
 

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The Cowboys are reportedly preparing a game plan to ensure that they don't lose restricted free agent WR Miles Austin to the Jets.

"That’s not happening," one Cowboys source said about losing Austin. "We are going to do something." The Cowboys could sign Austin to a long-term deal or match the Jets' offer. At this point, the Jets are simply bringing Austin in for a visit and no offer has been tendered.
Source: Fort Worth Star-Telegram
 

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juckie;2721152 said:
Robert Meachem would be fine on a team that will play him and a good oline.

Not really. I've watched him play a lot, he's got some issues. I liked him coming out of the draft though and he still has time to turn it around. If there's any team in the league where he has the best chance to succeed, he's already there. No one is holding him back.
 

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Goldenrichards83;2720909 said:
2008 - Pick 49, DeSean Jackson, Eddie royal
2007 - Pick 51, Steve Smith
2006 - Pick 52, Greg Jennings
2005 - Pick 61, Vincent Jackson
2004 - Pick 50, Devery Henderson
2003 - Pick 54, Anquan Boldin


Should I go on and these aren't even 1st rd guys.. We can do this all day.

What the...should you go on? You stole my post.

:p:
 

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Aven8;2721153 said:
What????? Are you nuts? We've invested three years of grooming this kid....it's not about getting a second for a UDFA. Hell, you could say let's trade Romo for a 7th...since he wasn't drafted! That's a good deal.

WR's usually take about three years to get going anyway...just like LB's. Now you wanna throw all that away for the 52nd pick? Crazy!

I'm talking about based on production. He hasn't shown he can be a reliable #2 WR. Yes, he has great speed and has the measurables, but to say that Austin shouldn't be moved because of the "grooming" we did is nuts.
 

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TheSport78;2721150 said:
You know it's funny you say that.

Robert Meachem 2008 statistics:
12 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TD's; 1 rushing TD

Miles Austin 2008 statistics:
13 receptions, 278 yards and 3 TD's, 0 rushing TD's

Looks eerily similar to me...

If Meachem was injured for multiple games and playing behind Terrell Owens and Roy Williams you might have smoething.
 

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TheSport78;2721107 said:
sonnyboy;2721102 said:
What has Austin done in college? What has Austin done in the NFL? He's shown flashes of being a reliable #2 but he isn't consistent enough to warrant a 2nd round draft pick.


You can't be serious here.

I'm not saying I believe or know that Miles is worth a 2nd rd pick.

But I'm sure you don't think the Cowboys and Jets have a better understanding of Miles' ability, potential and "value" than any college player coming out this year.

3 yr guy. 3 training camps, 3 preseasons going against NFL talent.

This has nothing to do with Miles' ability. It has everything to do with the contract the Jets are going to give him to secure that ability.

That's the question Jerry has to answer. Is matching the deal worth it!
 

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stasheroo;2721164 said:
If Meachem was injured for multiple games and playing behind Terrell Owens and Roy Williams you might have smoething.

On the other hand, Meachem does have the third best QB in the game throwing to him.
 

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TheSport78;2721161 said:
I'm talking about based on production. He hasn't shown he can be a reliable #2 WR. Yes, he has great speed and has the measurables, but to say that Austin shouldn't be moved because of the "grooming" we did is nuts.

Ok...let's say we do.....who you gonna take? Who's your 2nd now? Hurd? Crayton? Will be the slowest offense in the NFL with the exception of Felix. Harvin won't be there and is real injury prone, Robiske is going to be good IMO, but slow. I mean who ya gonna get???? Keep Miles.
 

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juckie;2721152 said:
Robert Meachem would be fine on a team that will play him and a good oline.

Who passes the ball more than the Saints?

How many teams have a better QB?

And the Saints line i arguably better than the Cowboys line too.

I can't see any reason for Slingin' Sean Payton to needlessly bench a stud receiver.

And a first rounder at that.
 

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sonnyboy;2721165 said:
TheSport78;2721107 said:
You can't be serious here.

I'm not saying I believe or know that Miles is worth a 2nd rd pick.

But I'm sure you don't think the Cowboys and Jets have a better understanding of Miles' ability, potential and "value" than any college player coming out this year.

3 yr guy. 3 training camps, 3 preseasons going against NFL talent.

This has nothing to do with Miles' ability. It has everything to do with the contract the Jets are going to give him to secure that ability.

That's the question Jerry has to answer. Is matching the deal worth it!

I do agree that this is all about the contract the Jets offer Austin; or if they even offer him a contract.
 

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If the Jets stepped up and signed him, or better yet Miami, then I'd probably let him go. It could hurt our offense but on the other hand, we might be able to work something out with Cleveland for Edwards or possibly the Cards for Boldin.

I might think about doing that.
 

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btcutter;2721130 said:
Goldenrichards83;2721111 said:
huh? Stanback hasn't done anything against ANYBODY and no one is planning on giving up a 2nd rounder for him either. Your comment made no sense here.
Actually it made plenty of sense. The guy asked you what has Miles done in the Nfl or in college. Your response was ""That's more than I can say for a 2nd round pick from college who has NEVER played a down in NFL...against elite competition".



Using the same ridiculous argument Stanback has also faced elite competition and Austin has about 10 more catches then he had last season. In other words kill the elite competition argument. Miles has never faced a #1 corner on the other side. I doubt he face a #2 so the elite comp argument makes no sense. Get it.
 

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Aven8;2721167 said:
Ok...let's say we do.....who you gonna take? Who's your 2nd now? Hurd? Crayton? Will be the slowest offense in the NFL with the exception of Felix. Harvin won't be there and is real injury prone, Robiske is going to be good IMO, but slow. I mean who ya gonna get???? Keep Miles.
We take iglesias iin the 3rd or Derrick Williams both who are faster than Miles with the added benefit of a PR. And robiske ran a 4.47 at the combine, thats not slow and very impresive for his size.
 
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