DMN: Jets Courting Miles Austin

[Randy White]

If the KC Chiefs can acquire a starting QB for a second round pick (the same compensation the Skins were asking for Campbell), then we can find a serviceable WR for that price too.

Yea, it looks that way, but there has to be more to that story than we know. Perhaps it was timing, perhaps it was lack of interest ( teams might have been reluctant to not only give up a #1 pick, but a big contract as well, to a QB with only 15 NFL starts ), perhaps it was the simple fact that the Patriots didn't want to pay yet another 1st round salary to anybody in this draft, perhaps it was just a good ol' favor for one of their own, but that trade doesn't make sense just the way it came out.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

POTENTIALLY.. and neither are top 10, top 15 picks, which means that potential is even less likely.

Nobody knows what they will do. On the other hand, there's an existing book on Austin and what he can do.

Yea those 18 catches in 3 years is alot to go on. You guys overvalue players.

 

[Randy White]

I still don't get why we didn't just tender him at a first-round rate

I don't either. It's just an extra 500k against the cap, and it would have given the Cowboys complete control of the situation when it came to trading him.

I'm not saying they should have been asking for a #1 pick, but had they done so, they would have forced team interested in Miles to come to the table with the Cowboys.

As it is, all the Jets have to do is give him a good, solid offer, and the Cowboys will probably not match because of the excuse they've been using all off-season long:

D-Ware's contract.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

Iglesias is the same guy and we can get him in the 3rd rd. Take those 2 2nd rders and either build the oline or dline or both.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Iglesias is the same guy and we can get him in the 3rd rd. Take those 2 2nd rders and either build the oline or dline or both.

He's the guy I was thinking of, too. Not nearly as fast as Miles, but probably has more savvy and quickness.

It's probably a moot point because we don't know what kind of money the Jets will offer. It might be so cheap that we'd easily match it. But it's fun to think about.

 

[Randy White]

Yea those 18 catches in 3 years is alot to go on. You guys overvalue players.

This coming from someone who just stated as a matter of fact that two receivers who haven't even been drafted yet are going to be " #1 's " ? And two receivers who are projected to go in the end of the first round, at best ?

 

[whcarm]

Do you think people would be acting the same way if it were Hurd? He's our guy, yes, but that means we know him better than most. If it were Hurd -- who was an UDFA in the same year as Austin and has actually played more football than Austin -- we'd laugh.

If this were last year, we might be discussing Hurd instead of Austin. He was originally the one that showed more promise and I would bet a lot of people last year were more optimistic about him than Austin.

The difference has really been Jerry Jones and the coaches. They have been pimping Austin a whole lot lately even though he really hasn't done much of anything. Maybe they were doing that to rationalize their future decision to release T.O. Maybe they were doing it to try and elicit some interest in Austin. Who knows?

He may end up being great or he could be another in a long line of guys that us fans have slobbered over because they have certain skill sets and a lot of promise but end up going nowhere and we all forget about in a year or two. It's a huge risk / reward.

Jerry and the scouting department need to realistically evalute him and figure out what he is worth in their eyes while taking into consideration the possibility that he may flame out. Once they come up with that evalution then they need to see what the Jets are offering. If the Jets are offering more than they think he is worth then they should make the trade.

 

[Silverstar]

Miles Austin + Tashard Choice for the 17th pick.

Take it or leave it Jetsons...otherwise we match!



How do you like them apples?

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Miles Austin + Tashard Choice for the 17th pick.

Take it or leave it Jetsons...otherwise we match!



How do you like them apples?

No.

Austin and the Lions 4th for the 17th pick.

Holla!

 

[stiletto]

Miles Austin + Tashard Choice for the 17th pick.

Take it or leave it Jetsons...otherwise we match!



How do you like them apples?

Put the crack pipe down. There is nothing in this draft worth moving up for that we need to pay that kind of price.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

This coming from someone who just stated as a matter of fact that two receivers who haven't even been drafted yet are going to be " #1 's " ? And two receivers who are projected to go in the end of the first round, at best ?

Thats not me thats the scouts talkin. Look it up. These guys have a better skill set, better route runners and all have better hands than he does. Now this is just me but I would think they would probably have more catches in their 1st year than austin has in his 3.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

He's the guy I was thinking of, too. Not nearly as fast as Miles, but probably has more savvy and quickness.

It's probably a moot point because we don't know what kind of money the Jets will offer. It might be so cheap that we'd easily match it. But it's fun to think about.

Plus he can return punts and KO. Austin only return KO I think.

 

[AbeBeta]

So why haven't the Jets signed him?

i expect that their first preference is a trade for his rights that allows them to do a deal that is more friendly. you can go with a huge deal that won't be matched for a 2nd or you can work out a trade that allows you to be sensible with the deal while giving up slightly more in the trade.

of course, this sort of thing often just involves the agent working to set parameters for the player's new deal with his current club.

 

[Vintage]

Jets won't offer him stupid money. I'd think, anyway....

 

[SharutoX]

If we lose Austin, Get Darrius Heyward-Bey.

 

[bbgun]

i expect that their first preference is a trade for his rights that allows them to do a deal that is more friendly. you can go with a huge deal that won't be matched for a 2nd or you can work out a trade that allows you to be sensible with the deal while giving up slightly more in the trade.

of course, this sort of thing often just involves the agent working to set parameters for the player's new deal with his current club.

I was referring to Holt, not Austin. The person I was responding to thinks we should take the pick and sign Holt as a replacement. Not too fond of that idea.

 

[Randy White]

Thats not me thats the scouts talkin. Look it up.

I don't need to.

Go back into the history of the draft and read about countless receivers who were going to be #1's, according to " scouts ", but didn't.

These guys have a better skill set, better route runners and all have better hands than he does. Now this is just me but I would think they would probably have more catches in their 1st year than austin has in his 3.

Maybe.

Or maybe it's just you and they turn out to be busts ala: Rashaun Woods, who " Scouts " also thought was going to be a " #1 " guy. Or Mike Pritchard, or Peter Warrick, or Sylvester Morris, or Freddie Mitchell...

should I go on ?

 

[AbeBeta]

I was referring to Holt, not Austin. The person I was responding to thinks we should take the pick and sign Holt as a replacement. Not too fond of that idea.

I see. I expect the person you were responding to is a stupid.

 

[AdamJT13]

If trading a first and third for a 26-year-old wide receiver who has been to the Pro Bowl might be the "worst trade in NFL history," I wonder what Aikman would say about trading a second-rounder for a guy who has 18 catches in three seasons and has never even started a game?

 

[dmoore]

I like Austin. That said, I'd probably take the 2nd. There's WRs I like better than him in this years draft. I'd love a Nicks or Britt. Maybe even Derrick Williams. Also, I don't think Austin makes or breaks our offense. He's a luxury, and we probably score just as many points throwing to Crayton and Hurd. Another pick just gives us something to play with. Can move up or move down. We could end up being very active on draft day.

I'm of the opinion that Austin has just as much of a chance of being a bust as a early WR. I think it'd make our scouting staff look awesome to turn a guy like Austin into a 2nd. That's impressive.