DMN JJT Blog: Montrae Holland makes good first impression

[ThreeSportStar80]

You're right, he is a player. This is the environment that will help him take his game to the next level. The style of blocking too. He gets nasty with D-Linemen, about time we find more nasty blockers. Geeez once he's acquainted Witten, Barber and Cricket even crunch bones. D's are gonna pay wit their health, now that's power football.

I agree, the power football is the key, he's a mean player. Oh Holland said today he's in football shape but learning the playbook is the most important step for him getting on the field.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

why not?

is Holland not switching from an old scheme to a new one, that he had to learn?

did not Tank switch from an old scheme to a new one, that he had to learn?

IF you want to play it like that didn't the cowboys get a new head coach and offensive coordinator why were they so good on O and D last year.....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

IF you want to play it like that didn't the cowboys get a new head coach and offensive coordinator why were they so good on O and D last year.....

wth are you talking about?

Tank had to learn a different scheme, just like Holland is doing, it takes a little bit of time, not 4/5 days tops

it's not quantum physics man

 

[big dog cowboy]

"It's going to take me a little while because I don't want to get on the field until I'm ready," he said the other day. "I gotta be accountable to my teammates. I can't be half-stepping when I get out on the field."

Holland said the Cowboys' playbook is considerably different from the Broncos'

Yea I'd rather Holland there than Proctor or do we quickly forget????

He admits he isn't ready. There isn't anyone in the Cowboy front office saying he is. There really isn't anything else to discuss.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

wth are you talking about?

Tank had to learn a different scheme, just like Holland is doing, it takes a little bit of time, not 4/5 days tops

it's not quantum physics man

Man there's difference in O Line and D Line and I think the difference between playing zone blocking scheme compared to a man blocking scheme is minimal. Consider what is expected and needed out of him. Considering they are saying the only thing that keeps Holland back is the comfort level.

Through him in the fire and let him learn on the fly. He should be able to do it.

 

[Bizwah]

why not?

is Holland not switching from an old scheme to a new one, that he had to learn?

did not Tank switch from an old scheme to a new one, that he had to learn?

But there's a big difference in offense and defense.

Offensive linemen have to act as one unit or the QB/RB gets nailed. They have to be able to indentify blitzers and know their jobs and the jobs of their fellow OL.

Defense definitely has some complexity....but not to the degree of an OL. When all else fails a DL can hustle their way into the play.

You rarely see OL rotated in and out. You routinely see this with the DL. It's easier for DL to step in and play right away.

 

[DeaconBlues]

IF you want to play it like that didn't the cowboys get a new head coach and offensive coordinator why were they so good on O and D last year.....

Because the new head coach and offensive coordinator had and entire offseason to install the O and D?

You honestly don't see the difference between 6 months and 1 practice

 

[Bob Sacamano]

But there's a big difference in offense and defense.

Offensive linemen have to act as one unit or the QB/RB gets nailed. They have to be able to indentify blitzers and know their jobs and the jobs of their fellow OL.

Defense definitely has some complexity....but not to the degree of an OL. When all else fails a DL can hustle their way into the play.

You rarely see OL rotated in and out. You routinely see this with the DL. It's easier for DL to step in and play right away.

I know all that

you should be directing that to DaBoys who thinks Holland should be ready to play w/ a week's worth of practice, learning a new scheme and learning to play w/ new linemates

 

[Mash]

You really have to pulling are chains here DaBoys4Life

really....

Playing OL in the NFL isnt just plug and play........this isnt Madden football........

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I know all that

you should be directing that to DaBoys who thinks Holland should be ready to play w/ a week's worth of practice, learning a new scheme and learning to play w/ new linemates

He should be ready to do that. We have pro bowler at LT and Center I think it would be easy to transition.

 

[Hostile]

Man there's difference in O Line and D Line and I think the difference between playing zone blocking scheme compared to a man blocking scheme is minimal. Consider what is expected and needed out of him. Considering they are saying the only thing that keeps Holland back is the comfort level.

Through him in the fire and let him learn on the fly. He should be able to do it.

He should be ready to do that. We have pro bowler at LT and Center I think it would be easy to transition.

Stop thinking.

Judas.

 

[Hostile]

But there's a big difference in offense and defense.

Offensive linemen have to act as one unit or the QB/RB gets nailed. They have to be able to indentify blitzers and know their jobs and the jobs of their fellow OL.

Defense definitely has some complexity....but not to the degree of an OL. When all else fails a DL can hustle their way into the play.

You rarely see OL rotated in and out. You routinely see this with the DL. It's easier for DL to step in and play right away.

Congrats on 4000 posts.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Tank Johnson played in a 4-3 and was suspended for 8 weeks before then so thats a bad example IMO. Still the man is a NFL caliber player I'm pretty sure if we throw him out there he'd be able to handle it. I think if the cowboys gave him more reps it would help his comfort level don't you think ?????

Yeah, you get more comfortable with more reps. But it's pretty damn hard for a guy to come in and learn the entire offense in just one week.

And you can't up his reps without taking away reps from the guy who is going to START this week.

You obviously have no clue.

Carry on.

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, you get more comfortable with more reps. But it's pretty damn hard for a guy to come in and learn the entire offense in just one week.

And you can't up his reps without taking away reps from the guy who is going to START this week.

You obviously have no clue.

Carry on.

Why in the world would we want to limit what the offense has worked on just to get a LG in the game?

What he is suggesting makes zero sense. No one walks right into practice and simply does it. Crazy.

 

[AKATheRake]

but Tank didn't blame his struggles on being out of shape

it was learning the scheme

Fair enough and I do remember Tank saying the scheme was Greek to him because yes 3-4 is different than a 4-3 but 5 OL is 5 OL andif you listen to Tank this year he talks about being in football shape more than the scheme itself. According to Tank he's the strongest player on the team and he's a beast. No mention of the scheme taking himto the next level frohis own mouth but his fitness,that's what he's talking about. Holland is talking about the scheme, not his fitness.

 

[couchscout]

Man there's difference in O Line and D Line and I think the difference between playing zone blocking scheme compared to a man blocking scheme is minimal. Consider what is expected and needed out of him. Considering they are saying the only thing that keeps Holland back is the comfort level.

Through him in the fire and let him learn on the fly. He should be able to do it.

Just because you THINK there the difference between a man and a zone scheme is different, doesnt make it so. As a former High School offensive line coach, I'm here to tell you the different is monumental. Add that to the fact that nobody on the field but the QBs has to have more knowledge about any given play than the offensive lineman, and you have a recipe for disaster if he was to play this weekend. Let me break it down for you real quick.

Lets say the offense is gonna go into this game with 75 plays (a conservative number) and of those, 30 are runs. So, he only has to memorize who to block, and what technique to use for 30 plays right? Wrong. The defense can come out in an outrageous number of fronts that will completely change the blocking assignments. Since this is Cleveland, let me give you a rundown of possible fronts they can come up with. Base 3-4, Base 4-3 (yes, Romeo employs a little 4-3), a stacked 3-4, 3-4 Bear,...and there are 4 or 5 other 3-4 fronts whos names I cant think of right now. So, Ill say 3 more 3-4 fronts just to be safe. Plus, you got nickel, where the DTs generally line up over the guards instead of a the 2 technique and the "under" technique. So, thats 8 different possible fronts (another very conservative number) that Montrae may see on any given play. So, you take those 30 plays he has to memorize, and it isntantly becomes 240. Can you memorize 240 plays in 5 days? And just in case you think you can, lets not forget there are still 45 pass plays in the game plan. For which you have to do the same thing, with all the different fronts, oh, and blitz protections, stunts, twists, etc. Essentially, he needs to memorize over 1,000 plays. Its gonna take a little time.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

may be a great fit

 

[AKATheRake]

I agree, the power football is the key, he's a mean player. Oh Holland said today he's in football shape but learning the playbook is the most important step for him getting on the field.

You can teach a scheme,you can't teach physical talent. That's the best thing we can hear coming from a guy from another team who plays with 290 lb OL saying this guy is out of shape. He wants to play and lean on someone. Glad to hear I'm not the only one excited about this trade. I hate putting the buggy before the horse but I like what's brewing with this guy. Cheers ThreeSportsStar! :beer2:

 

[AKATheRake]

We really have some of the big guns, experienced vets and new dynamic talent on this particular post don't we? I just want 5 starting linemen that are nastier than any other unit out there, penalties non permitting of course! I think we have 4 and might have found our 5th. Just get the Holland effectively in the scheme coach Houck. Just big nasty OL, brusing RB, TE and FB to pound on our opponents. Then use our Finesse with Eldorado and the Cat.

 

[28 Joker]

I hope Proctor does a good job, but he has done nothing to gain my confidence. The guy gets jacked up and knocked back constantly. The Browns will attack him. You can bet on it. If Proctor is getting planted in the backfield on a routine basis, Dallas is going to have to compensate. This could open things up at other places for the pass rushers when they blitz.