DMN: Laufenberg: Think Greg Hardy's a problem now? Consider this scenario

cowboys2233

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Excellent job tabloid propaganda media in creating the fake image such that people see it as "all the time".

Yup -- I think it's important to see how he acted on the Panthers team when he was there. Was he a headache? Did he get into lots of arguments with teammates? Did he come out in the media a lot and cause distractions? I think that would be a pretty good indicator of how he'll act here if he signs long term. Think about a guy like Terrell Owens -- major talent, which is the reason we signed him. But the distractions? You could see those coming a mile away -- it had been his MO wherever he went and not surprisingly, continued when he was here.
 

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Who do you think flushed out Winston at the end of the game when he fumbled the ball? Without the holding call... game over, we win.

With Romo back it's a new season so as hard as you may try to rain on it, it won't work. Hardy is still elite.

So tired of the could'ave shouold'ave.

some say "elite" but others say inconsistent,
I say batterer.

Your conscience seems to be clear re his domestic abuse. Me, I am troubled by it.
But we grew up in different environments, yes? So that esplains it.
 

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charles haley had interesting comments to say yesterday. Said half of current team doesn't care if they win or lose. Said Hardy was of the group that takes it personal to win. Don't be so fast to run those types of guys off roster. I would atleast listen to his agent.

Yeah, the Haley comments were interesting. Clearly, he's got a bond with the guy.

Whatever's going on, we don't have all the info. It's a safe bet that what the public thinks is the story is not the actual story. I'm not referring to the old DV allegations here.
 

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So tired of the could'ave shouold'ave.

some say "elite" but others say inconsistent,
I say batterer.

Your conscience seems to be clear re his domestic abuse. Me, I am troubled by it.
But we grew up in different environments, yes? So that esplains it.

I'm troubled by your naivete in thinking that there aren't domestic abusers on every single team in the league. Hiding your head in the sand, focusing on a single player, and pretending it doesn't exist elsewhere isn't exactly noble of you.
 

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I'm troubled by your naivete in thinking that there aren't domestic abusers on every single team in the league. Hiding your head in the sand, focusing on a single player, and pretending it doesn't exist elsewhere isn't exactly noble of you.

I feel . . . so dirty!

When it concarns the Cowboys, it concarns me. Other teams should deal with their players as they see fit. but maybe it is just me, but I feels that batterers should not wear the star.
 

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So tired of the could'ave shouold'ave.

some say "elite" but others say inconsistent,
I say batterer.

Your conscience seems to be clear re his domestic abuse. Me, I am troubled by it.
But we grew up in different environments, yes? So that esplains it.

If you have an axe to grind with Hardy I respectfully request you leave me out of it. We don't have to agree about his character or his ability as a player. Please ignore me when I comment about him. Thank you.
 

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If you have an axe to grind with Hardy I respectfully request you leave me out of it. We don't have to agree about his character or his ability as a player. Please ignore me when I comment about him. Thank you.

if . . .yo . .. wish. (Walkin away dejectedlike), then won last look before I turn agin and hit the road, mein bottom lip quivering before a tear pop out off mein eye, mein good eye.

:oops:
 

GimmeTheBall!

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I grew up in an environment where we knew what we were talking about before making accusations, but that's isn't for everyone.

No, it isnt but thank for proofing mein point, little rotund cartoon character.
(looking all indignant :angry:)

lol

(escuse mein Falstaffian laff -- nice move having that dual account)
LOL
 

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Consider this scenario

We resign him

He says a couple of dumb things on twitter next year

He gets 16 sacks

Hell hath no fury like a scorned media.......since these players have taken to Twitter they don't need to appease the media to get their stories out there......if they don't know what they are doing they can look silly from time to time but that is a price they are willing to pay to kick JJT and Clarence Hill to the curb.....if Hardy makes a stupid Tweet, no one should care.....he is paid to sack the QB.....
 

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Hardy will be a Cowboy next season... Jerry is inviting all of this scrutiny because it lowers the price on Hardy, and eventually the media will find a new villain... Like it or not, Hardy deserves the right to work as much as the next person...
 

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I think JJ's primary goal is $$$$ and protecting the brand. He had the great fortune to Win SB's early on, but since those has been searching for the performance side of the football side while continuing to find ways to increase the revenue/worth size of the franchise.

And you wouldn't do the same if it were your business?
 

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And you wouldn't do the same if it were your business?

Sure, but at the same time, once having achieved the wealth , and the brand recognition I'd want to ensure I was accomplishing the SB goal. 20 years is a long time. P.S. Fan since the 60's so I am patient......
 

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He's getting killed in the media because he plays for the Dallas Cowboys. The incident just gives the media an excuse. Meanwhile, it's readily apparent that anybody that reads the case with open eyes can see that the media narrative is grossly inaccurate. What we do have an accurate account on is Adrian Peterson beating a 4-year old child so bad that it left permanent scars on the child and that even the most ardent believers in corporal punishment think he went over the line.

Yet, there are no demands that he be banned from the league. In fact, he spent less time off from the game than Hardy.

I fully believe that if Peterson had come to Dallas and Hardy went to Minnesota, Hardy would not be facing this amount of scrutiny and this scrutiny would instead go to Peterson and they would now be calling for Peterson to be banned.


I think the team is a bit in a wait-and-see mode and is more likely wondering if this plays out more like T.O. or if it plays out more like Josh Brent. If you recall, a team official actually said that the team didn't have a problem with TO as a teammate or a player or his behavior. But whether they liked it or not, the media was so much after the guy that it became a distraction regardless of what he did.

I think they are waiting to see how that plays out with Hardy this year. If it starts to die down or not.

Missed meetings could happen for a variety of valid reasons. He may have gotten the okay because he may have had some personal matter to attend to. He may have gotten the okay because he was rehabbing injuries instead (remember, he got hurt in the Seahawks game which is partly why he hasn't quite been himself). He may have been rehabbing and missed the meeting and the coaching staff wasn't on the same page and then they found out he was rehabbing and they were fine with it because they would have been okay with it if they knew beforehand.

This stuff happens all of the time all across the league. Just the Dallas media loves to jump to conclusions and treat them as fact.

Don't get me wrong...I disagree with this tact that Jerry and Rich Dalrymple use. They can't allow the media to dictate how the organization does things. If you have a great player and he is drawing unwanted attention over something that happened over a year ago and is doing really nothing wrong in continuing this distraction....then Jerry and Dalrymple need to do their job and diffuse this nonsense. Otherwise nothing every changes for the better and the media will just sink their claws into whatever player they feel they can make a media circus out of.





YR

Well stated, and appreciated
 

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Greg Hardy is the latest in a long line of players Jerrah signs that either nobody thinks is any good, or in this instance has serious issues. All in the hopes he will be a star that puts the Cowboys in a SB with accolades of how brilliant Jerrah is at talent acquisition.

This is tired. Just build the team the old-fashioned way. Better yet, let Stephen or someone else better at it do it. Please.
 
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