DMN: Roger Staubach: Cowboys are 'lucky' to have a 'championship' QB like Tony Romo

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DallasCowpoke;5102547 said:
#12 on Henson, Hutchinson and QC -
Staubach said it's a mistake to consider Henson another Hutchinson.
"They're entirely different people," Staubach said. "It's just a coincidence that they both played baseball, are both quarterbacks and signed with Dallas. They have entirely different personalities and talents."
Staubach's advice to Henson is to keep working hard. His advice to the Cowboys is to bring Henson along slowly.
"Sitting out as much as he has, I think it would be a mistake to throw him in this year," Staubach said. "He needs some time to get into the groove."
Staubach also believes Dallas can wait because he has faith in the incumbent, Quincy Carter.
"I wouldn't give up on Quincy," Staubach said. "He's shown some skills, he's improving. Speaking as a fan, I want him to do well."
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NAILED IT there Rog! Some of the best "scrambling" around the issue you've done in your career. :p:

I don't understand. Quincy had talent, he also had a substance abuse issue which was his downfall. Nothing to do with the talent Roger observed.
 

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erod;5102451 said:
You can sum it up like this.

If Tom Brady was our QB last year, Dallas would have been 4-12 or worse. He would have been killed.

If Brady was our QB we would have been in the playoffs last year

Brady makes the players around him good, Romo on the other hand needs good players around him
 

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Everlastingxxx;5102531 said:
I think the QB position has changed alot since Staubach played. He has some insight into the position but honestly after so many year removed from the NFL, his perspective is probably closer to a fans. He is a business man so he knows not to say negative stuff to the media.

That said, i think Romo could be a Championship QB if he played on a different team with a different owner.

It has changed, but Staubach was one of the only QBs using the shotgun back then and he had a pretty good set of wheels on him as Romo does now.
I see alot of "The Dodger" in TR.
I do agree with you that Romo could win it all though.
 

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Ren;5102553 said:
If Brady was our QB we would have been in the playoffs last year

Brady makes the players around him good, Romo on the other hand needs good players around him

Again, if Brady was our QB, he'd be on the injured reserve list by game 6. He's too imobile for our offensive line play. Same goes for Peyton Manning.
 

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Gameover;5102450 said:
Stone Cold hit it on the head in his podcast a couple of weeks back.

I don't think Tony has the composure to execute in high pressure situations.

Assemble the greatest supporting cast ever, I don't see Romo getting the job done.



Exactly. I have pointed this out a million times. Even if you have a great supporting cast, if you choke when the pressure is high at QB, you will bury your team.

Even if we had a great Oline, eventually we would face a tremendous defense that can get past our Oline and when that happens, how will Romo respond? From what we have seen so far, that answer would be not very good.

I think Roger has good intentions with Romo but I'm not sure he truly believes what he is saying.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5102500 said:
I agree with your assessment of NE. However, it's hard for me to believe that Brady would be 4-12 with the receivers we have. Heck, Brady is throwing to nobody and they score points. I think he would be significantly better then 4-12 with our talent. Would he win a championship? I don't know about that but I do believe that we would be in the playoffs.

Not saying Brady would go 4 and 12 but also not sure he would have got to the post season. Brady gets a lot better protection and he has good weapons of his own. Hell Cassle is not that good he went 10-5 with that NE team. Brady is good but he also has a quality OL, a good running game and good weapons.

Wes Welker is not a no body he put up 118 catches, NE rushing attack with 7th in the NFL and 1st in rushing TD.

Defensively NE give up yards but they were 5th in the league in Ints and 1st in fumble recoveries.

Brady is a very good QB on a very good team and gets a lot help, Brady is a big part of it but not even close to being a 1 man show

I'm not looking to knock other QB but Romo is not getting that he is not getting the protection he is not getting the running game and sure as heck is not getting turnovers from his defense
 

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Ren;5102553 said:
If Brady was our QB we would have been in the playoffs last year

Brady makes the players around him good, Romo on the other hand needs good players around him

Romo has good players around him, he's incapable of maximizing the talent he does have.

The biggest indictment of Tony Romo not maximizing the players around him, is the fact that a stud like Jason Witten has so rarely seen the end zone.

Witten should've averaged 8 to 10td per year the last seven or so years.

Any surprise that Witten had his best TD stretch when Romo was hurt in 2010?
 

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Maybe I'm blind, but where did Roger Call Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, or Drew Henson a "Championship QB?" If you think those comments are on par with that one, wow.
 

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ufcrules1;5102565 said:
Exactly. I have pointed this out a million times. Even if you have a great supporting cast, if you choke when the pressure is high at QB, you will bury your team.

Even if we had a great Oline, eventually we would face a tremendous defense that can get past our Oline and when that happens, how will Romo respond? From what we have seen so far, that answer would be not very good.

I think Roger has good intentions with Romo but I'm not sure he truly believes what he is saying.

1st off you don't know how Roger feels he makes a statement and you claim he did not mean it? :laugh2:

I guess it does not fit your view so you spin it the way you want.
 

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Gameover;5102569 said:
Romo has good players around him, he's incapable of maximizing the talent he does have.

We have some good skills player but hell Dez could not even line up right until half way through the season. running game is fricken 31st out of 32 teams and we don't get turnover out of our defense and that makes a big differance. Yes Romo makes mistakes no doubt about he takes risk no doubt about it and if he is not taking risk this offense is dead in the water it does not move.
 

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AmberBeer;5102544 said:
Not when he's running for his life like Romo does on just about every passing play. Brady, an imobile QB, wouldn't last the season.


Brady is also the most accurate, quickest release QB in the league. He beats the blitz by hitting his targets before the blitz gets there. That's how QBs used to do it and that's how certain QBs, like Brady and like Manning still do it. You can say that he doesn't have the mobility all day but he's not had mobility from the day he stepped into the league up to and including today. New England didn't always have the best OLs but because he can beat the blitz with accuracy and his release, he makes his OL better. That same thing would happen in Dallas and our Offense would be designed to help him do this. I'm sorry, all of what you just said is fine but I don't buy any of it. I've watched Brady a lot and what he can do is not simply because he has OLs who can block all day. He makes them better.
 

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AmberBeer;5102551 said:
I don't understand. Quincy had talent, he also had a substance abuse issue which was his downfall. Nothing to do with the talent Roger observed.

Quincy was also inaccurate, could not throw deep and had a tendency to turn the ball over, in addition to his substance abuse problems. He could do some good things but in the long run, nobody who watched Quincy play was confused about his talent level. He was the best and really only option we had at the time. That's probably more true then anything else.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5102578 said:
Brady is also the most accurate, quickest release QB in the league. He beats the blitz by hitting his targets before the blitz gets there. That's how QBs used to do it and that's how certain QBs, like Brady and like Manning still do it. You can say that he doesn't have the mobility all day but he's not had mobility from the day he stepped into the league up to and including today. New England didn't always have the best OLs but because he can beat the blitz with accuracy and his release, he makes his OL better. That same thing would happen in Dallas and our Offense would be designed to help him do this. I'm sorry, all of what you just said is fine but I don't buy any of it. I've watched Brady a lot and what he can do is not simply because he has OLs who can block all day. He makes them better.
I would venture to say Romo make his horrible OL better with his scrambling ability as well.

And as for quick release, Romo is just as quick as any QB in the NFL.
 

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Hostile;5102571 said:
Maybe I'm blind, but where did Roger Call Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, or Drew Henson a "Championship QB?" If you think those comments are on par with that one, wow.

My point is/was, just because an ex-player, no mater WHAT his credentials are, says something, no more validates what the facts are, or are going to be.

Again, you can go back to any off-season from almost every year since Romo became a starter, and 1 or another of the "he's been there, so he knows" QB's, has thrown-out the obligatory, "he's a champion" quote in an interview somewhere or another.

Umm???....Maybe I'M blind, but I'm still waiting to see the "championship". Or even anything CLOSE TO IT, for that mater!
 

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Chocolate Lab;5102496 said:
I'm a Tony fan, too, but Roger said good things about Quincy.



Well, here's the thing.

Roger probably sees things in Romo that he can relate to and understand(Quincy Too). Now, with Quincy it wasnt all bad. He had us on a run one year. Took us to 10-6 I believe. A winning steak of 5-6 games. He looked pretty good.


Then "IT" happened...
 

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Gameover;5102569 said:
Romo has good players around him, he's incapable of maximizing the talent he does have.

The biggest indictment of Tony Romo not maximizing the players around him, is the fact that a stud like Jason Witten has so rarely seen the end zone.

Witten should've averaged 8 to 10td per year the last seven or so years.

Any surprise that Witten had his best TD stretch when Romo was hurt in 2010?

You're kidding right?

Let's see the WRs Tony Romo has had to work with. How many were actual studs that Romo didn't "maximize"? TO? TO had pretty good numbers with Romo. So did Terry Glenn. The only argument you may have is Witten. And I'll argue that the only reason Witten doesn't see the EZ a lot is due to the fact that Romo finds "lesser" players open.

Patrick Crayton had some great years with us. But what exactly did he do when he left Dallas? What about Laurent Robinson? You can't tell me Romo didn't earn him a HUGE paycheck. What about Miles Austin? An UDFA that made it big. Kevin Ogletree had a big year last year, too. Even Roy Williams had some good TD numbers with the Cowboys.

I'd say Romo's done a great job of "maximizing" the talent around him.
 

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Gameover;5102569 said:
Romo has good players around him, he's incapable of maximizing the talent he does have.

The biggest indictment of Tony Romo not maximizing the players around him, is the fact that a stud like Jason Witten has so rarely seen the end zone.

Witten should've averaged 8 to 10td per year the last seven or so years.

Any surprise that Witten had his best TD stretch when Romo was hurt in 2010?



Really?
 

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Gameover;5102422 said:
Michael and Roger are both eternal optimist

Roger is a huge homer he was in the booth during a Cowboys preseason game years ago and claimed the team found themselves a QB in Quincy Carter. :cool: He went on and on about how good he thought Carter was. Roger will never say anything even remotely negative about the Cowboys or their players. He'll fully support whoever the Cowboys have at QB.
 

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Doomsday101;5102566 said:
Not saying Brady would go 4 and 12 but also not sure he would have got to the post season. Brady gets a lot better protection and he has good weapons of his own. Hell Cassle is not that good he went 10-5 with that NE team. Brady is good but he also has a quality OL, a good running game and good weapons.

I'm not sure he would have gotten us into the playoffs either but I'm more confident that he would have rather then not. Brady gets better protection or does Brady get the ball out of his hands quicker and does Brady see fewer blitzes because he has proven, over his career, that he will beat you for 7 more times then not if you Blitz him? You are talking about Brady in a Vacuum. Surely you know that if we had Brady here, we would not be running the same offense we are now. Your talking about a guy who is probably smarter then anybody we have on the offensive side of the ball. Our offense would look very different and we would not be holding the ball or not using the running game or throwing low percentage passes in an attempt to make big plays down field. The offense would be very different with Brady at QB. The OL would play differently as well.

Wes Welker is not a no body he put up 118 catches, NE rushing attack with 7th in the NFL and 1st in rushing TD.

In comparison to who we have, which is really the issue, are you going to consider Welker, Loyd, Gronk and Hernandez better then the guys we had last year catching the ball? They had the 7th ranked rushing attack but can we honestly say that they had even one back who was as talented as Murray? To me, that's more about coaching and committing to a running attack.

Defensively NE give up yards but they were 5th in the league in Ints and 1st in fumble recoveries.

Right, their defense makes plays but the other side of that is that their offense doesn't turn the ball over. Brady had 8 Ints against 34 TDs. Those kinds of numbers would go a long way towards improving our season in 2012.

Brady is a very good QB on a very good team and gets a lot help, Brady is a big part of it but not even close to being a 1 man show

This is the problem as I see it. Too many people thinking that it's all Romo. Well, it's not. Brady is the best QB in the league and he is on a very good team but a big part of the reason is because Brady is their QB. Romo creates his own problems a lot of times. If he want's to be on par with QBs like Brady and Manning, he has to learn to stop killing himself. It's not always the team. Coverage breaks down, many times, because Romo holds the ball way to long, way too often. That's a true statement.

I'm not looking to knock other QB but Romo is not getting that he is not getting the protection he is not getting the running game and sure as heck is not getting turnovers from his defense

And I appreciate that. I don't think that this is what you are trying to do. I think you are trying to stay positive about Romo and that's fine. However, Romo has a lot of control over what we run on offense. You and I both know this. When we don't use the running game enough, it's not just because Garrett is not calling those plays. Romo has the ability to check out of any play at any time. Romo could help his protection a lot by simply getting the ball out of his hands quicker, by not spending all day at the line of scrimmage with audibles, by using the run more and by not putting his defense in bad down and distance situations all the time. Those are all things that Romo could help with.
 

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03EBZ06;5102589 said:
I would venture to say Romo make his horrible OL better with his scrambling ability as well.

And as for quick release, Romo is just as quick as any QB in the NFL.


Romo extends plays but he does not make his OL better, per say. If he wanted to make his OL better, he would run more, he would not put the OL in a position where the defense knew when the ball was being snapped all the time. He would get rid of the ball quicker and he would not force them to hold blocks so long. Romo doesn't do these things for his OL so while I would agree with the statement that Romo can extend plays, I would not agree with the statement that Romo makes his line better.

Romo has a good release but it's not the quickest in the NFL. Maybe on the run but not from the pocket.
 
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