DMN: Sporting News writer: Greg Hardy has rendered himself 'almost untouchable'

[rpntex]

The reason is simple. Who the heck would want a guy that the Cowboys don't want to bring back. Us not wanting to sign him says everything.

You must be right… I guess nobody has ever signed someone the Cowboys decided not to bring back

Except for Pac-Man Jones… and Tank Johnson… And Terrel Owens…and...

You're very naïve if you think it's that simple. Teams do their due diligence… They don't ever make a major decision based strictly on what another team does.

 

[Ring6]

Just because someone demands a higher standard of proof including dispassionate specific facts and you are unable to provide them doesn't mean that we need the whole truth.

We just need something that makes sense and that is verifiable. The best you have come up with is jobberone's deduction that you have piggy backed off of about him not yet having a contract. You try to wish away that contract demands or timing play a role tanking the deduction.

I'm trying to follow, and am wondering who "we" is in this.

 

[Spectre]

This is the part where I remind everyone that I stated it was ridiculous how this board had penciled in Hardy as an elite player for this football team, before the season last year... how I said he had been away from the game a while, had taken on some baggage, and wasn't exactly elite, prior, anyway... Only one season later and no one wants him. Lol.

 

[SultanOfSix]

If it's not enough for you, with all due respect, that's your issue not mine. Like I said earlier. Some people need the whole truth and nothing but to arrive at their own conclusion or to be satisfied with the outcome. And, again, there's nothing wrong with that. As far as this issue is concerned, I've seen and heard enough to know that I want nothing to do with the guy. I think he's a chump. You, obviously, need more than that. That's o.k.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. Logically, you can't use that as an argument.

Now, there can be other reasons on top of that for which you think "he's a chump". But that alone shouldn't be considered as a factor.

 

[LittleD]

Pages and pages of discussion on what facts are and needing proof. Geez.
There does not need to be any proof or facts in the employment area of business.
The Cowboys have concluded their contract with Hardy and he is a free agent to sign
with anyone that would pay him. The Cowboys have all the facts and proof they need
to not do business with Mr. Hardy based on whatever criteria they wish. In Texas and many
other States, it's Employment at Will and Fire at Will. I'm sure most of these NFL player
contracts have moral and behavior clauses in them that let NFL teams deal with players
who don't perform up to team standards. Teams decide what is good behavior and what is
not and it's likely that most teams do not view Mr. Hardy as a viable team player on their squads.
In Texas, you can be fired for any reason even if the company just doesn't like your looks.

 

[Zekeats]

You must be right… I guess nobody has ever signed someone the Cowboys decided not to bring back

Except for Pac-Man Jones… and Tank Johnson… And Terrel Owens…and...

You're very naïve if you think it's that simple. Teams do their due diligence… They don't ever make a major decision based strictly on what another team does.

Pacman tank and Owens never beat a woman. It's naive for you to think that anyone else is interested. It's pretty clear nobody is since nobody is

 

[CowboyRoy]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says the door is not closed on a return to the team by controversial free-agent defensive end Greg Hardy.
And ESPN NFL analyst John Clayton lists Hardy as his top remaining free agent.

However, Sporting News writer Vinnie Iyer is of the opinion that the door should be closed and Hardy isn't worth the risk for any NFL team.

Iyer writes: "Hardy mostly was a non-impact player in Dallas. And a headache. He reportedly wasn't well conditioned or a good teammate, and that combination wore on the coaching staff.

"Hardy had the best situation to resurrect his career and deliver again on an elite level. He instead dragged a struggling team marred by offensive injuries further down on defense.

"An offseason removed from his troubles, Hardy has rendered himself almost untouchable. Hardy has bigger baggage now, and a signing would require a team to come up with another creative contract and be willing to taking a huge risk with both player chemistry and community standing. Hardy was a distraction in Dallas and won't shake that label as long he's an active football player looking for work.

"The Cowboys made a desperate move last year with Hardy. It's tough to see another team repeating that mistake."

Read the entire story on sportingnews.com.

Continue reading...

RKG no doubt.

 

[slick325]

Drew Rosenhaus is either the biggest genius that is an agent or the biggest idiot that is an agent...Greg Hardy doing that interview with Adam Schefter may be a disaster or may actually generate a market.

Guess Drew is living by the mantra "go big or go home".

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Pages and pages of discussion on what facts are and needing proof. Geez.
There does not need to be any proof or facts in the employment area of business.
The Cowboys have concluded their contract with Hardy and he is a free agent to sign
with anyone that would pay him. The Cowboys have all the facts and proof they need
to not do business with Mr. Hardy based on whatever criteria they wish. In Texas and many
other States, it's Employment at Will and Fire at Will. I'm sure most of these NFL player
contracts have moral and behavior clauses in them that let NFL teams deal with players
who don't perform up to team standards. Teams decide what is good behavior and what is
not and it's likely that most teams do not view Mr. Hardy as a viable team player on their squads.
In Texas, you can be fired for any reason even if the company just doesn't like your looks.

You do understand how the NFL is interstate commerce? It's a federal issue.

That should be obvious because the NLRB and federal courts arbitrate disputes and there is a CBA. You're whole premise here is wrong.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Pacman tank and Owens never beat a woman. It's naive for you to think that anyone else is interested. It's pretty clear nobody is since nobody is

What's naive is being in a position without access and thus ignorance and speaking in certainties. Not surprising but it's there just the same.

 

[erod]

Schefter interviewed Hardy, and it's all over Twitter.

Claims he never touched her.

 

[LittleD]

You do understand how the NFL is interstate commerce? It's a federal issue.

That should be obvious because the NLRB and federal courts arbitrate disputes and there is a CBA. You're whole premise here is wrong.

You do realize that teams release players all the time for moral and behavioral issues don't you. They can also release them for
performance issues. May not be a states right issues strictly but, teams have flexibility to fine and release players for conduct
detrimental if that is contained in their contract within CBA guidelines.

 

[LittleD]

Schefter interviewed Hardy, and it's all over Twitter.

Claims he never touched her.

Right, he never ever touched her... and, If you believe that, I have some swamp land in southeast Texas to sell you
cheap...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You do realize that teams release players all the time for moral and behavioral issues don't you. They can also release them for
performance issues. May not be a states right issues strictly but, teams have flexibility to fine and release players for conduct
detrimental if that is contained in their contract within CBA guidelines.

It's not a state's rights issue beyond to say that this is a federal jurisdiction.

All of that is negotiated in the CBA and outlined in federal labor law. Firms cannot just do what they want in the federal framework. It is what it is.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Right, he never ever touched her... and, If you believe that, I have some swamp land in southeast Texas to sell you
cheap...

Southeast texas has some swamps. Houston in particular is filled wetlands. The joke is supposed to be somewhere that there is obviously not swamp or beach property like "I have some beachfront property in OK."

 

[LittleD]

Southeast texas has some swamps. Houston in particular is filled wetlands. The joke is supposed to be somewhere that there is obviously not swamp or beach property like "I have some beachfront property in OK."

I rather sell the real thing, ya know. Don't want any issues with fraud in the inducement charges!

 

[Satchel89]

I just want him to go away. He is not worth the headache. I don't care how good he used to be. Everywhere he goes, He does what he wants. The Cowboys didn't change him. They didn't hold him accountable for anything. He can yell at coaches and players and show up late for meetings and it's ok I guess. I'm sure some idiot team will sign him and overpay for the headache

 

[4lifecowboy]

Right, he never ever touched her... and, If you believe that, I have some swamp land in southeast Texas to sell you
cheap...

You do know that there is swamp land in southeast Texas right?

 

[LittleD]

You do know that there is swamp land in southeast Texas right?

I do and I would love to sell some just to those who think Hardy is innocent!

 

[Kaiser]

I do and I would love to sell some just to those who think Hardy is innocent!

Start with North Carolina Attorney General that dropped all charges. He's listed in the phone book.