Do we keep ANY of the coaches?

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Columbo was only a bust because of his injury- untill then he was playing well.
Newman is as good a COVER corner as there is in the league.
Glenn has been very good and was a real pickup.
Henry with his bad knee is now a liability; if its chronic he needs to go to FS.
 

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eduncan22 said:
Its not the coaches.

Stop it.

Watch the game film.

You'll see the problems.

Here's a hint...

- Henry and A. Glenn cant compete at Corner
- Romo turns the ball over worse than Vinni ever did.
- Something is wrong with the running game....

eduncan22 said:
You really think so?

Check out this shot...why is A Glenn matched up against Roy Williams?

Does this make any sense to you?

The resulting play is a TD.

http://i89.***BLOCKED***/albums/k215/eduncan22/GlennGetsburned.jpg

I got news for you...A Glenn cannot cover Roy Williams.
Hello everyone. This is my first post here, but I'm a longtime lurker. Actually, I help run another site...but I read here often.

Anyway, I saw this post and felt it necessary to reply.

First of all, the reason Glenn was often covering Williams against Detroit is because Dallas plays a 4 deep zone, for the most part, when running their base 3-4, and I suspect that's pretty much the case even when they're in the nickel. They've been doing this all season, and the Lions (Saints, Eagles, etc, etc), to their credit, simply exploited the situation by creating mismatches against the Cowboys zone.

In the above picture, it actually looks more like the Cowboys are playing nickel (imagine that...), but I'd bet the bank that the Cowboys are also playing zone...and that was a mistake as we all witnessed.

Second, I completely disagree with the suggestion that the players are the guys at fault for the gigantic collapse we've seen over the past month, and after watching yesterday's game I think it's pretty obvious that the system is what's broken, not the players.

Need evidence? Fine.

Dallas has, stupidy as it turns out, stubbornly stayed in their base 3-4 defense even when the offense dictates that such a alignment is a big gamble, and yesterday's big day from...excuse me...Mike Furrey...is a perfect example of just how pathetic the coaching has become in Dallas.

3rd Quarter, 4:22 left. 2nd and 13 on the Dallas 13. The Lions come out in a 3 wide set. Dallas responds by staying in the base 3-4, and who is assigned to cover Mike Furrey?

Al Singleton.

Result: touchdown.

Now, if that's not an indictment of the coaching staff, I don't know what is. And it's been going on for months. Even worse, the coaching staff absolutely refuses to make any kind of adjustments to end this weekly shredding of our defense.

Honestly, I don't know how it could be any more clear that Parcells, Zimmer, and whoever else who refuses to make changes IS, IN FACT, responsible for this.

Yes, Glenn covering Williams is rediculous. Singleton covering Furrey is equally moronic. But I don't see how that's the fault of the players.
 

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Alexander;1278944 said:
I agree.

But Coach Parcells grew fond of him over time. Otherwise he would not have been here.

or it could be the 3 year 3 mill contract the team gave him.
 

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Parcells likes Zimmer and so did everyone else two years ago. Other than that he pretty much did clean house, he even fired Joe Avezzano which was not a popular decision and Steve Hoffman whom some fans still lament.

Parcells assembled a staff of his liking, he just couldn't call upon old cronies because they were now head coaches.

Romeo, Groh, Bellicheck, Weis.

So he assembled from scratch, some work and some don't. New Orleans took Payton and Zimmer has suffered from what have you done for me lately syndrome with this year's puzzlingly bad defense.
 

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Aikbach;1279325 said:
Parcells likes Zimmer and so did everyone else two years ago. .

NOT ALL OF US

GROZ has been in the works for several years

David
 

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Zimmer is not the coach if you want a championship D. He will get you a good D but will fail you when it really counts.
 

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The Dodger;1279282 said:
Hello everyone. This is my first post here, but I'm a longtime lurker. Actually, I help run another site...but I read here often.

Anyway, I saw this post and felt it necessary to reply.

First of all, the reason Glenn was often covering Williams against Detroit is because Dallas plays a 4 deep zone, for the most part, when running their base 3-4, and I suspect that's pretty much the case even when they're in the nickel. They've been doing this all season, and the Lions (Saints, Eagles, etc, etc), to their credit, simply exploited the situation by creating mismatches against the Cowboys zone.

In the above picture, it actually looks more like the Cowboys are playing nickel (imagine that...), but I'd bet the bank that the Cowboys are also playing zone...and that was a mistake as we all witnessed.

Second, I completely disagree with the suggestion that the players are the guys at fault for the gigantic collapse we've seen over the past month, and after watching yesterday's game I think it's pretty obvious that the system is what's broken, not the players.

Need evidence? Fine.

Dallas has, stupidy as it turns out, stubbornly stayed in their base 3-4 defense even when the offense dictates that such a alignment is a big gamble, and yesterday's big day from...excuse me...Mike Furrey...is a perfect example of just how pathetic the coaching has become in Dallas.

3rd Quarter, 4:22 left. 2nd and 13 on the Dallas 13. The Lions come out in a 3 wide set. Dallas responds by staying in the base 3-4, and who is assigned to cover Mike Furrey?

Al Singleton.

Result: touchdown.

Now, if that's not an indictment of the coaching staff, I don't know what is. And it's been going on for months. Even worse, the coaching staff absolutely refuses to make any kind of adjustments to end this weekly shredding of our defense.

Honestly, I don't know how it could be any more clear that Parcells, Zimmer, and whoever else who refuses to make changes IS, IN FACT, responsible for this.

Yes, Glenn covering Williams is rediculous. Singleton covering Furrey is equally moronic. But I don't see how that's the fault of the players.

Good Post!

Here is the play you are talking about.

He never had a chance.

http://i89.***BLOCKED***/albums/k215/eduncan22/lbonwr.jpg


Very frustrating....
 

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Hostile;1278088 said:
When Jimmy came in he cleaned house. Since then with every coaching change Jerry has insisted on some of the staff being retained.

That loyalty is admirable in some ways, but incredibly naive. Let the new guy create his own staff.

JMO.

That is Jerry's biggest strength and biggest weakness at the same time. Is is extremely loyal to everyone in the organization to a fault. He kept Switzer around too long, Lacewell too long, Campo around too long....
 

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eduncan22;1278430 said:
You really think so?

Check out this shot...why is A Glenn matched up against Roy Williams?

Does this make any sense to you?

The resulting play is a TD.

http://i89.***BLOCKED***/albums/k215/eduncan22/GlennGetsburned.jpg

I got news for you...A Glenn cannot cover Roy Williams.

I hope this wasn't just a height match up that you are critical of? We all praised AGlenn last year when he blanketed Plaxico... By the way, didn't Williams do some major pushing off on this play that was not called?
 

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burmafrd;1278078 said:
I have to frankly say that I cannot think of one of the coaches that we cannot upgrade.

Great thread. Our staff is mediocre, no doubt about it. All you have to do is look at the game plan and adjustments each game. I think the only game that we changed it up a bit was Indy and then we went backwards from there.

The only coach we had with any creativity during the BP era was Sean Payton and we all know he was being held back half the time for being too aggressive.
 

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eduncan22;1278090 said:
Its not the coaches.

Stop it.

Watch the game film.

You'll see the problems.

Here's a hint...

- Henry and A. Glenn cant compete at Corner
- Romo turns the ball over worse than Vinni ever did.
- Something is wrong with the running game....

So is that why Parcells took Dave Campo's players and went 10-6 the year after we finished 5-11. Yeah, the coaches have nothing to do with it.

Parcells deserves credit for turning around our team then but he also deserves credit for lack of intensity and passion in our recent losses.
 

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mr.jameswoods;1281118 said:
So is that why Parcells took Dave Campo's players and went 10-6 the year after we finished 5-11. Yeah, the coaches have nothing to do with it.

Parcells deserves credit for turning around our team then but he also deserves credit for lack of intensity and passion in our recent losses.

I agree with this.

Parcells has righted the ship in the sense has has turned us from (literally) a perennial 5-11 team to a team that wins more games than it loses with regularity.

But he hasn't taken the Cowboys to the level everyone expected. People expected a Super Bowl, or, at the least, a deep playoff run. This well might be his last chance at either.

As for "what coaches to keep," I really don't mind our offensive playcalling. I think in the majority of games, it's been more than competent and not the reason for our collapse.
 

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Dale;1281132 said:
I agree with this.

Parcells has righted the ship in the sense has has turned us from (literally) a perennial 5-11 team to a team that wins more games than it loses with regularity.

But he hasn't taken the Cowboys to the level everyone expected. People expected a Super Bowl, or, at the least, a deep playoff run. This well might be his last chance at either.

As for "what coaches to keep," I really don't mind our offensive playcalling. I think in the majority of games, it's been more than competent and not the reason for our collapse.
Righted the ship may not be quite the description, how about hoisted the sails, cut the anchor, pulled her from the mud but then handed the team over to poor harbor pilots who have repeatedly crashed into yachts and piers.
 

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Dale;1281132 said:
I agree with this.

Parcells has righted the ship in the sense has has turned us from (literally) a perennial 5-11 team to a team that wins more games than it loses with regularity.

But he hasn't taken the Cowboys to the level everyone expected. People expected a Super Bowl, or, at the least, a deep playoff run. This well might be his last chance at either.

As for "what coaches to keep," I really don't mind our offensive playcalling. I think in the majority of games, it's been more than competent and not the reason for our collapse.

I think the playcalling has been bad. Proper playcalling reflects the talent on the team. However, Parcells seems to adhere to a certain philosophy as opposed to calling plays according to the flow of the game or what is working for us. He will call 3 run plays in a row because he wants to establish the run despite having no success at it. Or when we have established the run, he will want to throw downfield. This is what I missed about Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy went with whatever worked.
 
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