Do we need a 4th QB in here?

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kartr said:
You consider a waste of space a qb who had a 98 qb rating last year. Another year of current qb's and you'll be rethinking your position on QC. We'll be talking about the good ole days when we had a winning season.

he is playing where? LOL
 

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Vertigo_17 said:
Yeah, bring QC back for training camp so that Bill can cut him again. I can think of no other reason for QC to be part of the Cowboys ever again.

Winning again would be a good reason.
 

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kartr said:
You consider a waste of space a qb who had a 98 qb rating last year. Another year of current qb's and you'll be rethinking your position on QC. We'll be talking about the good ole days when we had a winning season.

I watched the guy. He was terrible. Obviously scouts and GMs think so too.
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
Don't be mad because your agenda of Henson being the next Staubach/Aikman doesn't look like it's going to pan out ... the fact that he looks lost speaks volumes about what I've been saying all along and what you've been saying.

As I've said time after time my agenda is the team. Though it is obvious your capacity to grasp this concept doesn't exist. You're still blinded by the 5 year old scouting report. I, on the other hand, have 'kept it real' about Henson.

The king of dreamland keeping it real?

Now that is funny.:lmao2:

If your agenda was the team, you should be hoping Henson does become the next Aikman, because that means we can keep using those first round picks on needs other than QB.

Your agenda is stirring up crap. Your postings in this thread show that without a doubt.
 

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blindzebra said:
Parcells said today, BOTH need to show improvement.

I could remind certain people that last year, up until the last two weeks, Romo looked awful, Henson looked much better and EVERYBODY at camp was wondering which vet we were bringing in to replace Romo.

I just find it so ironic that those preaching patience for Carter are writing off Henson, coincidence?

That's an easy one. Carter played 3 years of college football IMMEDIATELY before coming to Dallas. Henson played three years of baseball IMMEDIATELY coming to Dallas. Carter played baseball to feed his family. Henson played baseball because he liked it better than football. Also, NO one with Henson's background has ever been successful in football. Henson is stealing reps from Aaron Rodgers,Jason Campbell and stealing Jerry's money to boot. It's not about the package that makes the qb, it's what inside of the package and inside of Henson is a baseball player at heart. That's just not gonna cut it.
 

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Well, I have to agree Waff. You know, sometimes things happen and you look at it and say to yourself, "That aint right." That's how I feel about Wright. I understand why the team did what they did but it just doesn't make it look any better to me. Of all the QBs Dallas has had since Aikman retired, I have always felt as if Wright had the most to ***** about. He really did nothing to merrit release. He never got beat out and he never caused problems. Even when the team screwed him, he never had anything bad to say. Unfortunate is all I can say. He deserved better in my book.
Wright made a "Business Decision" to have sergury during the season when the team felt that it could wait until the end of the season. We were in dire need of a QB at the time and the team felt like Wright had let them down and could nto be trusted...they cut him. Some "business decisions" are better than others.
 

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kartr said:
If I remember correctly QC was not overmatched against the Commanders in 2001, he beat the Commanders.

Which QB hasn't beat the Commanders in the last 6 years? Where the hell have you been?

kartr said:
Wright at his best would be only good enough to backup QC.

I'm sure you roll over every morning and tell that to Quincy himself.

Absolute hogwash, dude. :rolleyes:
 

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kartr said:
Yes he did deserve better. He should have been QC's backup in 2002, while Hutch should never been on the team. We wouldn't have been in this mess, if things had stayed that way.

Don't you mean, he should have been allowed to start at the position he clearly earned? The truth of the matter is that he should have been the starter until such time as Carter proved able to beat him out. I watched both QBs. Carter was no where close to being better the Wright. This is not debatable. This is a fact of point. I'm not saying Carter could not have beaten him out at some point but I am saying that Carter never did beat him out. Carter was given the job. Had he been forced to win it, things probably would have been different. It might have strengthen Carter to the point of being able to stay clean or it might have forced the team to draft a real QB early and avoid the four wasted seasons, and counting.
 

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Crown Royal said:
If either of them were a 5 year vet or more, I would be worried. But last season was Romo's second TC and he started off very rusty. This is Henson's second.

I doubt, as Dale said, it is as though he has regressed. I think too many people just expected him to push Bledsoe this soon. When he is still getting used to the NFL in his second year, it is a bit too early to make any judgement on him, calling him a bust or savior.

Hopefully it's last season. We need to get a young qb in here who has played football this decade. Henson regressed. I thought you had to progress before you could regress.
 

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blindzebra said:
The king of dreamland keeping it real?

Now that is funny.:lmao2:

If your agenda was the team, you should be hoping Henson does become the next Aikman, because that means we can keep using those first round picks on needs other than QB.

Your agenda is stirring up crap. Your postings in this thread show that without a doubt.

At least Ben doesn't prop up an unemployed, drug using, former NFL QB to support his opinion about Henson.
 

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Need another QB? Nah... if our QB's suck we can put Crayton or Dantzler in at QB, then run JJ, A-Train, and MBIII out of the Wishbone. ;)
 

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blindzebra said:
Don't they fit your running QB profile?:rolleyes:

No they don't, I prefer mobile pocket passers,not glorified running backs and by mobile, I mean with escability and I've been very clear about this from the start.
 

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Waffle said:
At least Ben doesn't prop up an unemployed, drug using, former NFL QB to support his opinion about Henson.

Nope he just formed his opinion on Henson because of that QB.;)
 

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kartr said:
No they don't, I prefer mobile pocket passers,not glorified running backs and by mobile, I mean with escability and I've been very clear about this from the start.

It's rather sad, but I think we all know what you mean by "mobile" QBs.
 

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kartr said:
No they don't, I prefer mobile pocket passers,not glorified running backs and by mobile, I mean with escability and I've been very clear about this from the start.

How appropriate your post total hit 666.

We all know what your term really means, when are you going to grow a pair and just say it?
 

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JackMagist said:
Wright made a "Business Decision" to have sergury during the season when the team felt that it could wait until the end of the season. We were in dire need of a QB at the time and the team felt like Wright had let them down and could nto be trusted...they cut him. Some "business decisions" are better than others.


LOL... This is a load of BS. The team did not promise him a spot. Wright asked for an extension of his contract, past the current season. He didn't ask for more money or even a guarantee to start. He asked that the team extend his contract so that when he had the work done, he would have the opportunity to come back and compete for his job. That's it. If memory serves, he even agreed to the pay cut the team proposed, if they would sign him to an extra 2 years. The team made it clear that they would not extend him. They would not allow him to compete for the starting spot. They would not give him a roster spot. This after he had won the starting QB position in fair compatition.

He made the decision to go under the knife when he did because he didn't want to be in a situation where he waited till the off season, have the procedure and then be faced with the possability of being cut, having to make a team and possibly not being completely rehabed.

Some business decisions are better then others but some decisions are crap regardless of what direction you elect to take.
 

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junk said:
Well, thats better than what Carter is now. Maybe if Charles was speaking of Stoerner, Carter can sign up to take his place on the Desperados.

Dan Marino is out of the league too, but he's still better than AJ Feeley. That's true of Elway too, Plummer isn't good enough to carry his jock. What's your point? The NFL has some 4-5 teams with horrible starting qb's, yet are afraid to give QC a shot, at least he'll play for more games than Grossman. He would easily beat out Ferotte(sp)/Feeley,Harrington/Garcia,Warner/McCown,Grossman and company and probably Bledsoe too.That says more about the lack of intelligence of NFL gm's than QC's ability. Isn't it ironic that the one team that gave him a job made the playoffs?
 

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Waffle said:
Which QB hasn't beat the Commanders in the last 6 years? Where the hell have you been?



I'm sure you roll over every morning and tell that to Quincy himself.

Absolute hogwash, dude. :rolleyes:

Carter is the only one that's 3-0 against them though and he's 3-1 against the Giants too while passing for over 1000 yards in 4 games against them, I know,I know, it was the defense. Carter is also the only the Cowboy qb to beat the Eagles in 7 years. In summary he's the best qb we've had this decade.

That last part I'll ignore, since it is too profane and disgusting to comment on.
 

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Don't you mean, he should have been allowed to start at the position he clearly earned? The truth of the matter is that he should have been the starter until such time as Carter proved able to beat him out. I watched both QBs. Carter was no where close to being better the Wright. This is not debatable. This is a fact of point. I'm not saying Carter could not have beaten him out at some point but I am saying that Carter never did beat him out. Carter was given the job. Had he been forced to win it, things probably would have been different. It might have strengthen Carter to the point of being able to stay clean or it might have forced the team to draft a real QB early and avoid the four wasted seasons, and counting.

Wright was an undrafted free agent. Carter played at a bigger school and bigger games. Carter only played a game and half in 2001, Wright had his chance to win the job outright after QC went down. Carter came back after his injury showed he was clearly the better qb. He clearly won it in the regular season and that counts more than any preseason game. The only wasted season we've had since 2001 was 2002(second half) and last year. Carter could have helped us win at least games in 2002 instead wasting time on that stiff Hutch who can't even beat out a scrub like Grossman. Carter's drug problems had more to do with Bill's betrayal than anything else. All qb's need to know that they wont be yanked at a moments notice. Bill repeated Jerry's fiasco of '02 by bringing another 'project poster boy'. He should have known better since he had already talked with QC about what happened before. He mismanaged the team by jerking with team chemistry at the qb position. All the players had accepted QC as their leader and were looking forward to 2004. That one move put us in freefall for who knows how many years. Changing qb's every year is the mark of a failed regime and Bill should certainly know better than that.
 

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Waffle said:
It's rather sad, but I think we all know what you mean by "mobile" QBs.

You mean like J.P. Losman. What's sad about him? He took Bledsoe's job by throwing 5 passes in his rookie year. Okay, I see what you mean, Bledsoe is sad.
 
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