Do we need a weekly running account of Dez Bryant

jwooten15 said:
Yeah, I didn't say that as to mean that Dez isn't effective.

He definitely is. But I feel he's a little overrated and that we try to force him the ball too often - especially when we have 4-5 other lethal weapons on offense.
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WE chunk it up to him when he's 1 on 1 deep downfield. That's a good play for us against any DB in the league.

I think we just need to get the ball in his hands because he can drag an entire secondary with him once he gets that big body going.

But, like TO, we won't put him in many catch and run situations.
 
Yakuza Rich said:
He was routinely getting open and beating Jenkins all game long. He may not be as good as Julio or AB, but that doesn't mean he's not elite.

There's not a single coach nor player worth their salt in the NFL that doesn't believe Dez is not elite. He is somebody that every opponent greatly accounts for and is afraid of enough to double each game with various coverage shells and opponents make sure to brag about it any time they believe they shut him down. You don't do that for the Golden Tate's and PIerre Garcon's of the world.





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Might just be semantics, but you can be a really good player and not be elite.

If you aren't in the same category as the true elite, how can you be elite?
 
I like the slants he ran last night. That's a reliable throw/catch and gives him an opportunity to RAC. But all these go routes get annoying because we may only hit ~20% of them, if even
 
PJTHEDOORS said:
Beasley is a slot reciever, who no one can cover. Switz is in danger of injury, what? Based on what. We haven't even used him at wr yet. Butler is our 5th wr once Swit gets settled in. Dak was missing wr's last night, he should have had around 350 yds passing.
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Switzer is a total Smurf. I am scared for him out there. But that's not really the point. Is he going to run the deep routes or is he a YAC guy whose core skill set duplicates Bease? We need a deep threat speed guy. Is it Butler? Don't know, but he needs to improve his consistency if he is going to be that. T. Will is a jack of all trades receiver who looks like he might take the next step, but its still wait and see on that.
 
CATCH17 said:
I'll agree with runs better routes, fast, but I don't agree with much better hands. They are equal in that area.

Again.. Dez has the beast factor over him. He can go up and make a play when the defense does everything right.

Odell can too just not at the level of Dez.

I wan't my WR to have the beast factor.

If I were playing corner i'd much rather have to deal with ODB then these monsters at WR.
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Make no mistake, he's good, and I'm glad he's on the team. I really like how he's matured (although I wish he'd stop spending so much energy with the jaw-jacking.)

He's just not elite, and that's OK.
 
links18 said:
Switzer is a total Smurf. I am scared for him out there. But that's not really the point. Is he going to run the deep routes or is he a YAC guy whose core skill set duplicates Bease? We need a deep threat speed guy. Is it Butler? Don't know, but he needs to improve his consistency if he is going to be that. T. Will is a jack of all trades receiver who looks like he might take the next step, but its still wait and see on that.
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Dallas just doesn't value the burner type of WR's unless they are 6'2 + and can block.

I think Switzer has some legit top speed but it's more of the Julian Edelman type and not the Desean Jackson type.

I think Switzer could be better then Beasley at getting Vertical.
 
superonyx said:
You either have an anti Dez agenda or you don't understand this sport at all.
Anyone with any knowledge of the sport at all would clearly see Butler and T Will have the success they do because they are on the other side of the field where safety help isn't rolled to them...or they are running quick hit underneath routes.
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Dez was taken out of the game by a single corner. Part of that is because he just can't get separation. His only ability to get separation is due to jump balls. He can do that.

Why don't the Cowboys have Dez run more routes or move Dez around? Most of you assume it is because the Cowboys are idiotic, but just maybe it is because Dez is ****** route runner.

I am not anti-Dez. I am just realistic. We pay him way tooo much money to be a one trick pony. He is being paid top 5 receiver money, and I am sorry to burst your bubble but he isn't a top 5 receiver. He's just not.

I do think Dez should get a little bit more protection from the officials. I think the DBs get away with far too much grabbing on him. But his own game is about physicality. So its a bit of a wash there.
 
aikemirv said:
You mean with the ball that went right through his hands - that kind of outplayed?
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I was thinking more about the great catch he had on the long ball. I guess its in the eye of the beholder.
 
CATCH17 said:
Do you watch those guys play though and not think that the system they are in has something to do with it?

I agree that Julio and AB perform at a higher level but IMO after that Dez is just as good as any of those guys.

Yeah Odell can run routes better but he doesn't have the beast factor that Dez has.

Give me the Demaryius Thomas, Dez, Julio, Mike Evans, and AJ Green types over the shifty guys. Especially in our offense that doesn't spam short passes to our #1.


Dez is a Touchdown guy. He's better then anyone at it when healthy.
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Oh they absolutely benefit from their systems.

I once began embarking on a massive project of charting nearly anything you could think of with regard to WR play. One thing I noticed was how content Dallas was to make Dez a decoy. He was doubled more than any top WR by far. It really, really hurt his production.

But simply can't do what AB and Julio (and OBJ) can do at this point in his career. He's not a vertical threat or an extremely precise route runner.

He can go up and get the ball with the best of them (better than Julio and OBJ), but he's definitely lost some ability since 2014 to do that and just isn't as complete as those guys.

Nothing wrong with that.
 
Dez beat him a few times, dak didn't execute. He worse down Jenkins, should of had another 2 PI's on him. Dak missed an easy td over the middle.
 
Ntegrase96 said:
Oh they absolutely benefit from their systems.

I once began embarking on a massive project of charting nearly anything you could think of with regard to WR play. One thing I noticed was how content Dallas was to make Dez a decoy. He was doubled more than any top WR by far. It really, really hurt his production.

But simply can't do what AB and Julio (and OBJ) can do at this point in his career. He's not a vertical threat or an extremely precise route runner.

He can go up and get the ball with the best of them (better than Julio and OBJ), but he's definitely lost some ability since 2014 to do that and just isn't as complete as those guys.

Nothing wrong with that.
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So is this not a vertical threat?




Or are you just saying he's not fast?
 
zrinkill said:
I swear ........ to many people on here do not understand why Witten, T-will, and Beasley are always so open.

Thank God the Cowboys understand it .........
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Yep, Zeke. Dez has an effect, but not like that monster running game.

Witten's TD last night was created by the Zeke play fake. Four guys leaned his way on that fake.
 
zrinkill said:
I swear ........ to many people on here do not understand why Witten, T-will, and Beasley are always so open.

Thank God the Cowboys understand it .........
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Bingo.

Also, for reasons unkown, we never put him in motion, or do anything creative to get him the ball. I know it's not Garrett's offense to do that but it would be nice for them to get the ball into his hands a little more.
 
erod said:
Yep, Zeke. Dez has an effect, but not like that monster running game.

Witten's TD last night was created by the Zeke play fake. Four guys leaned his way on that fake.
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SO those guys were never open before Zeke got here last year ......... got it.
 
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