Do We Overrate Newman?

[Calicowboy]

Newman doesn't follow the opponent's best receiver on every play in every game (no cornerback in the NFL does that). He plays his position and covers whoever lines up against him.

McCardell had one catch for 16 yards against Newman. Santana Moss had one catch for 9 yards (in two games) against Newman. Lloyd didn't catch a pass against Newman. Randy Moss didn't catch a pass against Newman. Roy Williams had three catches for 35 yards against Newman. Kennison had one catch for 22 yards. Those six guys COMBINED for six catches for 82 yards on 14 pass attempts against Newman.

Against Steve Smith, Terrell Owens, Torry Holt, Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald, Rod Smith and Amani Toomer, Newman allowed a TOTAL of six catches for 84 yards on 15 attempts.

Remind me not to debate against Adam.

...I think this post answers this thread adequately.

 

[WilmingtonHeel]

I see the skins fan is picking up his lip and ducking away. One thing noone has said in this thread he wasn't called for a PI last year either, folks that's good as it gets

 

[Seven]

Do you even watch the games? He covered Steve Smith, arguably the best WR in football last year, the entire game, and did a pretty good job.

Sorry, but I gotta.......Do you even watch the games? He covered Steve Smith the ENTIRE game? I believe 'ol Mr. Smith was ejected early, very early in that game. Next.

You won't quit when you need to. You're gonna get athletes tongue one of these days.

 

[Dale]

He's not outspoken, nor does he generate "highlight-reel" plays or touchdowns, so he doesn't naturally draw attention like some of the higher-profile corners.

Plus, he was coming off a season in 2004 that a lot of people considered to be a disappointment, so I think people are waiting for a repeat performance before touting him too highly.

 

[BigDFan5]

Sorry, but I gotta.......Do you even watch the games? He covered Steve Smith the ENTIRE game? I believe 'ol Mr. Smith was ejected early, very early in that game. Next.

You won't quit when you need to. You're gonna get athletes tongue one of these days.

Smith was ejected with a couple minutes left in the 3rd Quarter

 

[Bob Sacamano]

we may tend to overrated Newman, but after the year he had last year, can you blame us? I would definitely put him top 5 at his position, and I feel he was arguabley the #1 corner last year

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Newman is very good, I don't think he is as good as Sanders. Deion scared QB's in his prime and when he got his hands on the ball he was a major threat to take it to the house. He was one of the very few who could bait a QB into throwing to what looked like a wideopen target and be able to cover the ground and make the pick. I think Deion was the best cover CB to play the game. JMO

I think Newman can eventually get to that level, he definitely has the closing speed, but having QBs tending to look the other side is a good thing too

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This team has flaws, some pretty major ones at that.

no doubt, but they seem to be pretty few and far between nowadays

Newman is a good corner, top 10 definately, but he is not an elite cover corner just yet.

he was an elite cover corner last year, I agree with Alexander's statement that we should wait to see him string up a couple more consecutive years like last year, or close to it, before we annoint him the best cover corner, but last year, last year, he was the best

 

[Bob Sacamano]

As far as the "Terrence doesn't get enough interceptions to be a considered an elite CB"....

Career INT totals through their first 3 years in the league

Deion 14
Bailey 13
Newman 11
Charles Woodson 10
McAlister 10
Darrell Green 9
Law 9
Rod Woodson 8
Trufant 8
Barber 4

Looks like he holds up pretty well against some good company to me. But you would never know it listening to reputation and word of mouth, because no one bothers to actually look this stuff up (other than Adam). Which makes it all the more sad that CB's are evaluated solely by word of mouth and reputation.

uh, but, uh, uh...STAT-PUSHER!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

but he still has a lot of room for improvement.

in what areas? please elaborate

now I'll buy he needs to do this for more than just a year

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'd still take Champ Bailey over Newman. Granted, he does give up big plays more often than Newman did last year, however he more than makes up for it with big plays.

I thought you were arguing against Newman being the best coverage corner last year? someone getting beat more doesn't help you

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Stop dancing around the truth.

projection anyone? 3rd, defense mechanism?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Just from watching them play though, Barber seems to get thrown at less.

how convenient

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The main difference I see between these other guys and Newman is that they all take more risks.. they all jump routes and cheat off of their man to make a play or int that they anticipate. This is not team football and I can promise that BP doesn't coach it. Newman is a solid player and plays his responsibility and trusts his teammates to play theirs, as he should.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He didn't cover the best receivers "all the time." No cornerback in the league does. Even Deion didn't do that all the time.

Many times, your best corner will lock down the second receiver, while the first receiver will be covered with help from another person. It's harder to beat two people than it is one, no matter how great a cornerback you are.

it's because we don't switch Newman to the opponents top receiver all the time

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He's not outspoken, nor does he generate "highlight-reel" plays or touchdowns, so he doesn't naturally draw attention like some of the higher-profile corners.

Plus, he was coming off a season in 2004 that a lot of people considered to be a disappointment, so I think people are waiting for a repeat performance before touting him too highly.

I seriously think it's because people heard so much about Newman struggling in '04, then when '05 came around, they didn't hear his name, because noone was doing anything against him, and he wasn't getting INTs on prime-time television, and thus he got lost in the shuffle

 

[Seven]

Smith was ejected with a couple minutes left in the 3rd Quarter

Hardly constitutes an entire game.
However, I was wrong.

 

[superpunk]

So now Adam AND Brandt are BOTH lying about Newman giving up 0 TDs??

They don't agree with HH's made-up position.

Of course they're lying.

 

[Xavier23]

Alot of people thought Anthony Henry was the teams Defensive MVP last year, but when a quarterback throws in your direction most of the game and doesnt even attempt to throw to Newmans side what does that say? 0 tds allowed and no PI's says alot about a corner. Newmans only bad year was in 2004 when he was playing hurt and lost some of his confidence, and it wasn't that bad of a year considering it was a knee injury.

 

[MossBurner]

Newman is a good corner. Shawn Springs is a good corner. Lito Sheppard is a good corner. Go to an Eagles website and Lito is the best corner in the East. Go to a Commanders site and Springs is probably thought of as the best...

Newman is overrated here. That being said, he is BY FAR the best corner on the Cowboys and was therefore avoided more so than any corner in the division. The talent gap is larger between Newman/Henry than with Springs/Rogers...