Do you think the Dallas Cowboys could beat Jacksonville Jaguars?

[The30YardSlant]

I begged you not to keep going on the 30 yard slant.

I begged you not to try me on this one.

You should take my advice sometime.

Using your own logic of recent past means more than entire History I will simply say this...

September 11, 2005, Dallas opened on the road in San Diego. This is more recent History than anythign you can bring up.

Final score...

Dallas 28, San Diego 24.

Right after I first addressed this with you you tried to use all opening day games, not just your original premise of opening "on the road."

No matter how you try and spin it, every other team in the NFL would kill to have our opening day on the road record.

You spoke without facts. When presented with facts you present conditions. How did I know (see 1st post) that you would?

Hint...30 yard slant.

I agree, winning last year was a welcome relief from the opening day dulldrums. However, it could easily be argued that we should not have won that game. SD had FOUR chances from their own 7 yard line to score a TD, and didnt gain so much as a yard. All they have to do is hand LT the ball or throw it to him in the flat and they likely come away victorious. Worst play selection I've ever seen in a late game situation.

However, that is still beside the point. Under Parcells, we are 1-1 opening on the road, and 1-2 overall. Those two losses consisted of getting blown away by Minnesota and getting pretty well handled by a BAD Atlanta team at home. Before that, we lost 3 consecutive openers, including a loss to the expansion Texans. I tend to think of last year's opener as the exception as of late, not the rule..

And call me crazy, but I'd be willing to bet the 2006 Arizona Cardinals could care less about our all-time opening day record. Or about our recent opening record, for that matter.

Again, I know that's probably way too outside the box for you, but just try it....

 

[The30YardSlant]

Why are the 2000, 2001 and 2002 seasons relevant to you when those were Campo's teams--and not Parcells?

Players and coaches are still here from those years. Again, using 2003-2005 really is the only fair comparison for this years team, however if Hos believes that our all-time history proves his point, I was simply pointing out that our recent history does not.

Basically, 2000-2002 doesnt prove my point, it simply disproves his.

 

[The30YardSlant]

It's a life buoy.

Unfortunately, there's an anvil tied to that life buoy and I threw it overboard.

You have a nasty habit of claiming victory before the fact

Premature-jubilation?

 

[Hostile]

I agree, winning last year was a welcome relief from the opening day dulldrums. However, it could easily be argued that we should not have won that game. SD had FOUR chances from their own 7 yard line to score a TD, and didnt gain so much as a yard. All they have to do is hand LT the ball or throw it to him in the flat and they likely come away victorious. Worst play selection I've ever seen in a late game situation.

Here's the spin control. Forget the fact recent history just shot your premise full of holes, try and rationalize that recent history.

Dude, you got schooled again. Accept that.

However, that is still beside the point. Under Parcells, we are 1-1 opening on the road, and 1-2 overall. Those two losses consisted of getting blown away by Minnesota and getting pretty well handled by a BAD Atlanta team at home. Before that, we lost 3 consecutive openers, including a loss to the expansion Texans. I tend to think of last year's opener as the exception as of late, not the rule..

You gotta admire spin control that says past history isn't as relevant as recent history, then uses past history to support that claim.



Hilarious.

And call me crazy, but I'd be willing to bet the 2006 Arizona Cardinals could care less about our all-time opening day record. Or about our recent opening record, for that matter.

Now you're trying to talk about the 2006 Cardinals. What in the blue hell does that have to do with anything in this discussion?

Again, I know that's probably way too outside the box for you, but just try it....

Why do I picture a man desperately throwing hay aside looking for the needle?

You said we aren't good opening on the road. You put no qualifiers on that. Until after the facts were posted.

In the immortal words of Joe Friday..."Just the facts ma'am."

 

[Hostile]

You have a nasty habit of claiming victory before the fact

Premature-jubilation?

A.D.D.?

Once more for clarity...

Not to mention the fact that, save last season, we don't tend to fair well in road openers

25 road openers in franchise history.

18 wins, 7 losses.

72% wins.

Statement by you to start this discussion = :bomb:

 

[The30YardSlant]

Here's the spin control. Forget the fact recent history just shot your premise full of holes, try and rationalize that recent history.

Dude, you got schooled again. Accept that.

As you would say, "just the facts". Simply pointing out Marty Schotenheimer's idiocy, the idiocy which helped us win our first opener in 6 years.

You gotta admire spin control that says past history isn't as relevant as recent history, then uses past history to support that claim.



Hilarious.

Says the guy who claimed 1970s opening day records meant this current team was good on opening day

Now you're trying to talk about the 2006 Cardinals. What in the blue hell does that have to do with anything in this discussion?

No matter how you try and spin it, every other team in the NFL would kill to have our opening day on the road record.

You should know, after all you brought it up

Why do I picture a man desperately throwing hay aside looking for the needle?

Because you're looking in a mirror

You said we aren't good opening on the road. You put no qualifiers on that. Until after the facts were posted.

I didnt put qualifiers because I didnt think anyone was foolish enough to think our all-time record had any meaning towards this years team. And yet, here we are....

In the immortal words of Joe Friday..."Just the facts ma'am."

So start using them. 1-2 under Parcells. Spin that.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Hey, he could have said oops. He invites the whoopings by speaking without facts.

Daily it seems.

 

[The30YardSlant]

A.D.D.?

Once more for clarity...


25 road openers in franchise history.

18 wins, 7 losses.

72% wins.

Statement by you to start this discussion = :bomb:

Again, I was assuming everyone on this board had the mental capacity to understand I wasnt incorporating Tom landry's teams into "we", meaning Parcell's current teams. Apparently, that was a false assumption.

 

[Hostile]

As you would say, "just the facts". Simply pointing out Marty Schotenheimer's idiocy, the idiocy which helped us win our first opener in 6 years.



Says the guy who claimed 1970s opening day records meant this current team was good on opening day





You should know, after all you brought it up



Because you're looking in a mirror



I didnt put qualifiers because I didnt think anyone was foolish enough to think our all-time record had any meaning towards this years team. And yet, here we are....



So start using them. 1-2 under Parcells. Spin that.

By far your best post in the thread and still pathetic.

Let's put it this way HH, Jack Del Rio isn't going to tell his football team...

"Guys, this team your facing today is 1-1 on the road under Bill Parcells. Therefore we have a 50- 50 chance of winning."

He's far more likely to say either this...

"Guys, the Dallas Cowboys are 18-7 opening on the road in their History so we have to be extra sharp today."

or this...

"Guys, last year this team shocked San Diego to open the season, so be aware of who you're facing."


Either way, the stance I've taken has more relevance than the one you've taken. BTW, you can bet your suspenders they mention the 18-7 mark over any other. I've been in the locker rooms, I know the tactics.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Hey, he could have said oops. He invites the whoopings by speaking without facts.

Now that I think about, I know the perfect hookup for HH Hos.

(insert demonic laugh here) :laugh1:

Talk about an interesting conversation.

 

[Hostile]

Now that I think about, I know the perfect hookup for HH Hos.

(insert demonic laugh here) :laugh1:

Talk about an interesting conversation.

 

[big dog cowboy]

"the Dallas Cowboys are 18-7 opening on the road in their History so we have to be extra sharp today."

or this...

"last year this team shocked San Diego to open the season, so be aware of who you're facing."

Both statements I expect to hear from the announcers week one.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

I give you this HH, although usually wrong ... you usually put up a good fight for people that are clueless or just as stubborn as you are. Kudos.

I consider myself a stubborn SOB too. Welcome to the family...

hahaha.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Hmmm....I wonder who this can be applied to?

 

[Hostile]

I give you this HH, although usually wrong ... you usually put up a good fight for people that are clueless or just as stubborn as you are. Kudos.

I consider myself a stubborn SOB too. Welcome to the family...

hahaha.

Did you just call me clueless S & T? Or did I read that wrong?

 

[SkinsandTerps]

WG, Easily the best post on this thread (Excluding my own of course).
Dems Jus' Jokes.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Let's put it this way HH, Jack Del Rio isn't going to tell his football team...

"Guys, this team your facing today is 1-1 on the road under Bill Parcells. Therefore we have a 50- 50 chance of winning."

Nor should he. As you would say, "What in the blue hell does that have to do with this discussion"?

He's far more likely to say either this...

"Guys, the Dallas Cowboys are 18-7 opening on the road in their History so we have to be extra sharp today."

If he does, he should be fired right there on the spot. Not only the worst motivational talk ever, but complete and utter stupidity. What does our all-time record have anything to do with our opener this Septemeber?

or this...

"Guys, last year this team shocked San Diego to open the season, so be aware of who you're facing."

He could possibly use this, if he wants his team to have the hype and energy of a over tested lab rat. Again, silly. No coach says that to their team (not any good coach, anyway).

Either way, the stance I've taken has more relevance than the one you've taken.

Only in your mind. Which makes more sense:

Dallas is the best team ever in road openers, so we have nothing to worry about

or

Under parcells, we are 1-2 in openers, the two losses being embarassing

Sorry, but rational thought prevails, and the current team's winning ways in opebers (or lack thereof) mean more than what Tom Landry's Cowboys did. Go figure?

BTW, you can bet your suspenders they mention the 18-7 mark over any other. I've been in the locker rooms, I know the tactics.

I've been in many a football locker room, both as a player and a viewer, and I can say without hesitation that I have NEVER heard a coach at any level bring up a teams record from 30 years ago as motivation for an upcoming game.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Did you just call me clueless S & T? Or did I read that wrong?

hahahaha. NO!!! You no helmet wearing mofo. I was referring to HH representing the clueless.

But if you want to include yourself into that pool ... thats on you. :

Gimme a break, I have been taking in beverages since 5... AM. Then went to the Drag races around noon (stupid sun, and heat, then rain).

 

[The30YardSlant]

Now that I think about, I know the perfect hookup for HH Hos.

(insert demonic laugh here) :laugh1:

Talk about an interesting conversation.

Never before have a felt such a strange combination of perversion and comedy....

 

[The30YardSlant]

I give you this HH, although usually wrong ... you usually put up a good fight for people that are clueless or just as stubborn as you are. Kudos.

I consider myself a stubborn SOB too. Welcome to the family...

hahaha.

I fail to see how stating our current opening day record is proof of cluelessness, but whatever....