Does anyone else think different and better coaching could help Dak?

[NotForLong]

I'm not arguing your point about a bus driver. But must quarterbacks are in reality. You have maybe 4 or 5 and the rest are just pedestrian. Look at Josh Allen. He played worse than Dak-was at home- and I'd argue against a weaker defense. All I'm asking Dallas to do is give someone else a chance to get into Dak's head not named Kellen Moore. Sometimes that's all you need. I knew a kid in school couldn't get an A-B-or C until he changed schools. Guy became a honor student. Sometimes all you need are better teachers.

He struggled in a snow globe with no running game. . . . Maybe the Bills learned something and will regroup

 

[NotForLong]

Jethro Jone$ says you need to define screwed. Lol

Cause 13 wins, a road playoff win and divisional round playoff appearance is looking Purdy good.

He can hype and sell the hell out of it.

Its different this year

 

[NotForLong]

Yup a 13 win season keeps those seats filled and that’s his main goal.Don’t be fooled.

Not if there is no open competition at QB

 

[NotForLong]

No, just the opposite.
With this so called predictable offense Dak is still too slow mentally in processing defensive looks, reads and options in real time.
If you go to a whole new offense and playcaller he would fail much worse.

He's peaked/reached his ceiling.
It's just unfortunate that that was as a rookie.

Even Jerry knows this

 

[raggedy]

If Moore doesn't take a HC job, we need to fire him. In fact, at this point I say we let Big Mac go and hire Payton. Don't rattle off resume numbers to say Big Mac and Payton are the same; if you've watched enough Payton games then you'd know that he is a great game manager and (I believe) a great coach for a QB. He salvaged Brees from the SD Reject Bin and turned him into a HOF/SB winner.

Will Jerruh give control to Payton? Probably/likely not, but I can dream.

This is year 7 with Dak and it's clear that KM isn't getting anything more out of the guy. We are stuck with Dak so next best thing is to change to voices around him and maybe that will get us further into the post season.

Build a better roster around Dak???? Uh, if I am not mistaken, Dallas has one of the youngest rosters in the league, which means all the cap money is spent on veterans, so how much more can we build around him other than HOPE we strike gold in multiple rounds of the draft? Dak making 40m a year really handcuffs the FO from building a roster than Dak needs to thrive.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Wouldn't bet the house on it, but we may have no choice. Also, the rest of the team has to be on their game. How many good free agents we gonna lose?

Heard Will McClay this morning say he hopes Dallas can get the free agent DT out of Washington. I'm hoping we can also. I love me some Zeke but he'll have to take a rock bottom pay cut to stay. And even then it might not work. That's why these guys were so emotional after the lose. They knew this team-they had now. Would never be together again.

 

[Diehardblues]

Its different this year

How?

 

[kskboys]

Sorry, no. 7 years. This is what Dak is.

 

[NotForLong]

It’s not prep school offense. Russell Wilson when he was effective was very similar. Bootlegs and rollouts. You just incorporate them into the offense. That’s what coaches and franchises do- you strategize to bring out the best in your players and play to their strengths. You sprinkle this stuff into the gameplan.

You can want dak gone, I can want dak gone but he’s not going anywhere. That’s just facts. Contractually he’s here through next season as is but he’s likely extended to a lower cap hit this year to free up money for the team. So we can either ***** and moan and complain about or you try to emphasize things he does well and make it work the best we can

Rodgers is another quarterback he throws great on the run and his coordinators have got him on the moves for years. Now dak has nowhere near the talent of Rodgers or Wilson in his prime but the point is that this is what teams all around the league do regardless of position- you coach to your players and teams strengths you don’t try to fit a square peg into a round hole and have him be mainly a pocket passer.

"On the Run" prep school garbage to mask the weakness of the "Athletic" Non QB

Dak was an "On the Run" QB when he came in the league . . . Then the league figured him out

Then Kellen Showcased Him and He got paid . . . (With half a foot . . . which has severely hampered his "On the Run" Ability) . . . Because of recovery time and because last year Jerry cringed when Dak tried to score and put an end to all that "On the Run" plays)

Now this year Dak showed a little spark doing the "On the Run Thing" . . . But that is because no one expects him to do it . . . There are many times that he can do the "On the Run" thing but Dak choices not to attempt it . . .Why do you think everyone is running a curl route?

 

[IceStar-D7]

If Moore doesn't take a HC job, we need to fire him. In fact, at this point I say we let Big Mac go and hire Payton. Don't rattle off resume numbers to say Big Mac and Payton are the same; if you've watched enough Payton games then you'd know that he is a great game manager and (I believe) a great coach for a QB. He salvaged Brees from the SD Reject Bin and turned him into a HOF/SB winner.

Will Jerruh give control to Payton? Probably/likely not, but I can dream.

This is year 7 with Dak and it's clear that KM isn't getting anything more out of the guy. We are stuck with Dak so next best thing is to change to voices around him and maybe that will get us further into the post season.

Build a better roster around Dak???? Uh, if I am not mistaken, Dallas has one of the youngest rosters in the league, which means all the cap money is spent on veterans, so how much more can we build around him other than HOPE we strike gold in multiple rounds of the draft? Dak making 40m a year really handcuffs the FO from building a roster than Dak needs to thrive.

I don't believe we're that far off. If the FO maybe a bigger problem than Dak. Can

No…

We need to stop trying to figure out ways to win with Dak. We paid him to be the answer not the problem.

For the next 2 years. That's all you got-figuring it out. As Parcells once said" Good quarterbacks don't grow on vines". Or you can't call 1-800-I need a quarterback. Even if you draft a high ranked guy. It's no guarantees. Wentz comes to mind. And most young qbs playing like Purdy- have great offensive schemes. Moore would just screw up the next guy like he's done Dak. Like it or not. It's Dak or bust the next few seasons. I just want to win! That's why I'm hoping Dak figures it out or somebody else figures it out for him.

 

[Runwildboys]

Does anyone else think. different and better coaching could help Dak

No. We've seen that he's capable of making all the necessary plays. He just loses it for some games. If anything can help him, it's a sports psychiatrist.

 

[NotForLong]

How?

last year the Fan Base was fed up and the 1st game of the season looked like more of the same . . . His injury sucked us back in . . . The team came together and everyone seamed to gel

Our identity was the defense and having a generational talent is exciting

Now this season ended squarely on the shoulders of Dak . . . Even Jerry and Micah called him out in the Media

This is Micha's team now . . . This was Dam's last chance . . . It's different now

I can't tell you exactly how it will play out but I know this year . . . regardless of Dak's price tag. . . . there will be an open competition at the QB position . . . No more status quo

Micah aint having it on His team . . . Too proud . . . He can't have Deebo talking smack when everyone knows they shut Deebo down. . . . Everyone knows it was the 2 interceptions that cost them the Game

Even Jerry is dumbfounded that Mr. Irrelevant out played His Huge Investment / Pet Project. . . Jerry thought QB was an advantage

At this point only a few stubborn fans support him . . . even Jerry threw His pom poms in the trash . . . After that Game there was no one else to blame

 

[IceStar-D7]

He struggled in a snow globe with no running game. . . . Maybe the Bills learned something and will regroup

Bills wanted that snow. They got snow Bengal's instead. They put pressure on Dak also and we had NO running game. No excuses though. Dak IMO played better than Allen. Dak just had a few more winnable throws than he did. Allen was just plain horrible. Snow or no snow. Snow didn't seem to bother Burrow. Both played in the same conditions. I think Allen is a little overrated as is Dak at times. For me it's Burrow and Mahomes. Best q.b's in the NFL.

 

[Diehardblues]

last year the Fan Base was fed up and the 1st game of the season looked like more of the same . . . His injury sucked us back in . . . The team came together and everyone seamed to gel

Our identity was the defense and having a generational talent is exciting

Now this season ended squarely on the shoulders of Dak . . . Even Jerry and Micah called him out in the Media

This is Micha's team now . . . This was Dam's last chance . . . It's different now

I can't tell you exactly how it will play out but I know this year . . . regardless of Dak's price tag. . . . there will be an open competition at the QB position . . . No more status quo

Micah aint having it on His team . . . Too proud . . . He can't have Deebo talking smack when everyone knows they shut Deebo down. . . . Everyone knows it was the 2 interceptions that cost them the Game

Even Jerry is dumbfounded that Mr. Irrelevant out played His Huge Investment / Pet Project. . . Jerry thought QB was an advantage

At this point only a few stubborn fans support him . . . even Jerry threw His pom poms in the trash . . . After that Game there was no one else to blame

Lol

I’d argue you don’t have a pulse on our dysfunctional ownerships agenda.

Nothing is changing. And the fans will fill the coffers once again.

 

[NotForLong]

Coaching will have a minimal impact on Dak. He is who he is now. His issues are not mechanical or physical. They are mental. A sports shrink might do him more good than a new coach.

Also, to all those claiming Dak is a game manager, no he is not. A game manager has control over his game. He is not aggressive by nature. Game managers are smart and do not make mental mistakes. Dak is none of those things and never will be. Dak is a would be playmaker whose football IQ does not match his athletic ability, and even his athletic ability is a bit shy of an elite playmaker.

You summed up the Enigma that is Dak

Ps. You are Right . . . Far from a game manager. . . That claim and team leader always makes me wanna

 

[NotForLong]

 

[CATCH17]

I don't believe we're that far off. If the FO maybe a bigger problem than Dak. Can

For the next 2 years. That's all you got-figuring it out. As Parcells once said" Good quarterbacks don't grow on vines". Or you can't call 1-800-I need a quarterback. Even if you draft a high ranked guy. It's no guarantees. Wentz comes to mind. And most young qbs playing like Purdy- have great offensive schemes. Moore would just screw up the next guy like he's done Dak. Like it or not. It's Dak or bust the next few seasons. I just want to win! That's why I'm hoping Dak figures it out or somebody else figures it out for him.

Parcells was a great coach and I agree that it’s hard to find a QB but in the salary cap era you can get similar results with Cooper Rush that you can with Dak Prescott if the system around them in functioning well.

Can’t waste resources on a QB who isn’t a difference maker without being stuck in mediocrity.

 

[NotForLong]

This!

What Dak did to Jerry Jones is nothing short of elder abuse.

 

[75boyz]

last year the Fan Base was fed up and the 1st game of the season looked like more of the same . . . His injury sucked us back in . . . The team came together and everyone seamed to gel

Our identity was the defense and having a generational talent is exciting

Now this season ended squarely on the shoulders of Dak . . . Even Jerry and Micah called him out in the Media

This is Micha's team now . . . This was Dam's last chance . . . It's different now

I can't tell you exactly how it will play out but I know this year . . . regardless of Dak's price tag. . . . there will be an open competition at the QB position . . . No more status quo

Micah aint having it on His team . . . Too proud . . . He can't have Deebo talking smack when everyone knows they shut Deebo down. . . . Everyone knows it was the 2 interceptions that cost them the Game

Even Jerry is dumbfounded that Mr. Irrelevant out played His Huge Investment / Pet Project. . . Jerry thought QB was an advantage

At this point only a few stubborn fans support him . . . even Jerry threw His pom poms in the trash . . . After that Game there was no one else to blame

Great post. Agree with every word especially the open QB competition part, although I will hafta see it to believe it.
My biggest fear is the exact opposite and Jerry doubling down on his stupidity by extending SleepNumber to spread out the $50 million dollar cap hit out over more years.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Average Qb garrapolos 6million salary allows the Niners to put pro bowlers all around him….

Average Qb Prescotts 40 million salary doesn’t allow the Boys to put pro Bowlers all around him

Prescotts 160 million salary is supposed to mean that HE’’S the elite player……not a turnover machine.

we can get Landry, Lombardi, Shula and this dude would still be a failure in the playoffs

This was a fail of the front office that didnt get a deal done early. They tried to play hardball and it backfired. Never blame the player for getting paid