Does Connor Williams have the frame to get bigger and stronger?

OmerV

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Collins aint movin back to OG.....he's our OT.
Williams wont learn anything from the bench.
Of course he will struggle.....he did on sunday....but also had possessions where he played well.
Im not benching Williams for a journeyman off the street.
Smith-Williams-Looney-Martin-Collins.
until Frederick is back THAT is our OL.
They have known that since the off-season...except for Frederick being out.
Sundays loss to carolina aint on the OLine.

It's at least partly on the O-Line - there is plenty of blame to spread around the entire offense. But I agree that benching Williams isn't the way to go. If we still had a guy of Leary's caliber, then sure, let Williams learn and get him playing time where we can. But we don't have somebody like that, and whoever we could put in would at most only be a mild, short term upgrade, and probably not even that. So it makes sense to stick with Williams.

But I'm still not sure what the thinking was behind Williams playing OG instead of OT, with Collins moving back to OG. Collins has the bulk for OG, and has experience playing OG at both the college and pro level. Williams has less bulk and his college experience is entirely at OT.
 

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right now I leave Williams at OG....I dont see how not playing helps him improve,personally.
IF a change is made,I wonder if they do it at the bye week.
For me...I leave Collins at OT and Williams at OG....if you told me that Collins moves inside and Williams moves over,Id give that a shot.

I wouldn’t want a rookie dealing with speed rushers in a new position. At least Fleming has played there, for a good team in big games, protecting the GOAT.
 

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I wouldn’t want a rookie dealing with speed rushers in a new position. At least Fleming has played there, for a good team in big games, protecting the GOAT.
but that GOAT sometimes makes players look better than they might be.
 

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It's at least partly on the O-Line - there is plenty of blame to spread around the entire offense. But I agree that benching Williams isn't the way to go. If we still had a guy of Leary's caliber, then sure, let Williams learn and get him playing time where we can. But we don't have somebody like that, and whoever we could put in would at most only be a mild, short term upgrade, and probably not even that. So it makes sense to stick with Williams.

But I'm still not sure what the thinking was behind Williams playing OG instead of OT, with Collins moving back to OG. Collins has the bulk for OG, and has experience playing OG at both the college and pro level. Williams has less bulk and his college experience is entirely at OT.
dont disagree...at all.
 

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Why would you invest so much time in the off season to pull the plug after a game or two.

These threads are getting ridiculous.
 

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It takes many months to gain strength and bulk -- If Connor Williams is seriously lacking it now, chances are he'll be lacking it all year. Yet, is anyone as a backup significantly more qualified to fit in? We'll see about that.
 

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It takes many months to gain strength and bulk -- If Connor Williams is seriously lacking it now, chances are he'll be lacking it all year. Yet, is anyone significantly more qualified to fit in? We'll see about that.

if he is a backup, may be he can do more lifting?
 

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I think he's only going to get better as the season goes along.
Im not pulling the plug for a guy we just signed off the street.

What do you think Fletcher Cox is gonna do to him. If he is left in against him, he and Dak will have no chance let’s be real.
 

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but remember....I want Collins at T and Williams at G....that is still my preference.

My whole point was MAYBE we need to make a change at LG right now. With Collins at LG and Fleming at RT, we’d have veterans at both spots.
 

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My whole point was MAYBE we need to make a change at LG right now. With Collins at LG and Fleming at RT, we’d have veterans at both spots.
I want no part of Fleming starting at OT after what I saw in the pre-season....just my opinion.
 
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