Does Romo go in the RoH?

KJJ

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I would amend that to say if he wins one championship.

Yes one would be good enough I was thinking about all the HOF threads about Romo. One championship will be good enough for the ROH but he would need multiple championships to be considered for the HOF.
 

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Ring Of Honor members without championships. So, I'm going to call bull****.
  1. Don Meredith
  2. Don Perkins

I already pointed them out and explained why they're in the ROH.
 

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I don't understand this. Who is there that Jerry should have or could have put in that wasn't a part of a SB winning team? Jerry has not yet had the opportunity to put in a truly great player into the RoH that also wasn't a part of a Superbowl winning team. That player hasn't existed yet in the Jerry Jones era. The opportunity won't exist until Romo, Witten and Ware retire if none of them win a Superbowl with the Cowboys. It is not as if Player X was with Dallas after 1995, played at a great level for 10 years, is retire and is now sitting there not getting put into the RoH.

There hasn't been anyone so Romo, Witten and Ware could be the first players since Meredith and Perkins to be added to the ROH that didn't help lead the Cowboys to a championship. All the truly "great" Cowboy players have SB rings. Meredith and Perkins weren't "great" players but they were pioneers who helped pave the way for the Cowboys during their early years which is why they were added to the ROH. At the time they were added the Cowboys had only won one SB. I would rather have Romo in the ROH than Charles Haley who spent most of his career in SF and will be presented at the HOF by Eddie DeBartolo. Haley was added to the ROH only because he helped the Cowboys to their 3 SB wins in the 90's.
 

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Football is a team game, not a one man game.

It's a team game but the spotlight is on the QB they receive most of the credit and the blame. There's been many great teams that wouldn't have been great had they not had the QB they did. Had Belichick not had Brady he would have likely been just another HC. Landry would have never won a championship had he not had Roger Staubach. SF would have never had the dynasty they had in the 80's without Joe Montana. Every great team starts with the QB which is why the first 2 picks in this years NFL draft were QB's.

The Colts would only win 4-5 games without Andrew Luck. No position in football influences the outcome of games like the QB position. If the Cowboys never win a championship under Romo he'll receive some of the blame because he's the QB. It's a glorified position and it will always be that way. Practically every HOF HC had a HOF QB. Parcells and Joe Gibbs are about the only 2 great head coaches who didn't have a great QB during their career. Joe Gibbs won 3 SB's with 3 average QB's.
 

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Produced in playoffs and Super Bowls? If you are looking at the QB position objectively about how well that position by itself is played away from having a good defense among other things, Romo ranks excellent compared to his peers. You guys act like Staubach and Aikman were these immortal Gods who threw to themselves and played safety and cornerback and pass rushed and everything else. Those dudes almost never had defenses outside of the top 10. Romo almost never has defenses inside the top 10. All the leadership in the world doesn't help an abysmal pass rush not be able to reach the QB. It doesn't help the corners not get toasted. A QB can only do so much and Romo has done beyond enough to end up in the ROH

Your age is showing. Staubach was not a good QB. He was great. With the game on the line, there was not a QB that was better. Aikman was almost as good. They both had good talent around them and both of these QBs are leaders of men. Romo simply can not compare at this point of his career to these two QBs I hope he gets the chance to show that he has the ability to .
 

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If Tony Romo does not go into the RoH, then it's a real shame because it would mean that it is likely due to the fact that he never won a championship.

I rank Tony 3rd on the list of all time Cowboy QBs and even if he were to win a championship, he would still be third. What does that mean? It means that Roger Staubach was that good and it means that Troy Aikman was also that good. Aikman was as good a QB prospect as I've ever seen, coming out of UCLA. He had it all. Roger Stauback was just a great athlete, extremely intelligent but most of all, he just refused to lose. Saying Tony is third on the list is, in no way, a knock on Tony. As Cowboy Fans, we have just been really fortunate to have had so many really good QBs play for us.

I will say this, if there was a HoF or a RoH for life, I think Tony would be in it. To me, aside from football (and you never really know all there is to know about a person), Tony is about as good a human being as you can really ask for in the NFL. He just gets it. He really is a credit to his profession IMO.
 

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I think it would be an embarrassment to the franchise if he went in. Never won a title and was not that significant of a player during his era.
 

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Romo goes in the ROH. My guess is he goes to the HOF if he continues to play well although that is decidedly undecided.

Jobber, I hope that Tony makes both. I think the next 2-3 years will be the deciding factors. Jerry may put him in the ROH, but there are some players that should go in before him due to the time they have waited and due to their outstanding careers and contributions to winning a Super Bowls. I think it will take at least one Super Bowl for him to get consideration for the HOF IMO. Tony only has a very few playoff wins is another consideration. I hope he gets in both because that would mean playoff wins and Super Bowls.
 

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I think it would be an embarrassment to the franchise if he went in. Never won a title and was not that significant of a player during his era.

Aren't you the troll who said the Cowboys should try to "get out of" their current quarterback's contract (the season after he received MVP votes) and try to get Eli Manning? Yeah, you've got a nice, neutral view of Romo going in the ROH...
 

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Aren't you the troll who said the Cowboys should try to "get out of" their current quarterback's contract (the season after he received MVP votes) and try to get Eli Manning? Yeah, you've got a nice, neutral view of Romo going in the ROH...

Eli Manning's won 2 championships and will make the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The only way Romo is going to Canton is if he buys a ticket or plays in the Hall of Fame Game.
 

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Your age is showing. Staubach was not a good QB. He was great. With the game on the line, there was not a QB that was better. Aikman was almost as good. They both had good talent around them and both of these QBs are leaders of men. Romo simply can not compare at this point of his career to these two QBs I hope he gets the chance to show that he has the ability to .

No, your age is showing with how stubborn and stuck you old guys can be in your viewpoints. I've watched more repeat of Staubach games than I can count on two hands. I've seen multiple games from him from every season that he has played in. The same with Aikman as well. "Leaders of men" you guys throw around stupid unquantifiable terms like that, that are only based upon the fact that their TEAMS won. Take Staubach/Aikman off their teams and replace him with Romo and they win the same amount of superbowls. The only thing Romo cannot compare with those two in is championships and that's simply because of the quality of teams he has been on. How many times have we seen a defender in the backfield as soon as the ball is hiked, Romo spins away breaks their ankles and releases a laser into his WR hands? How many times have we seen him thread the needle right over a corners hands? How many times have we seen him and his amazing game winning drives, including the ones that he didn't get because the defense promptly gave up a TD. There is no logic in saying that he can't compare to either of them if you are being objective and watching the strict play of the qb. This is the same line of logic that puts Trent Dilfer over Dan Marino simply because the former was on a supremely superior team than the latter. This isn't basketball. No matter how good your Qb by himself is, he can't beat an entire team.
 

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Eli Manning's won 2 championships and will make the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The only way Romo is going to Canton is if he buys a ticket or plays in the Hall of Fame Game.

DUURRRRR brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer won a championship sooo they're some of the greatest qb's of their era. - PoundTheRock
 

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Eli Manning's won 2 championships and will make the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The only way Romo is going to Canton is if he buys a ticket or plays in the Hall of Fame Game.

oh and BTW Eli won't sniff the hall of fame, until he's on like his 13-14th time up.
 

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Yeah, they helped build this team in the early days.

The first good teams the Cowboys had were with Meredith and Perkins and had they not had to contend with that great Packers dynasty they might have won a championship.
 

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oh and BTW Eli won't sniff the hall of fame, until he's on like his 13-14th time up.

If Eli were to win a 3rd SB he'll be virtually a lock especially with 2 wins over Brady and NE. Beating Brady head to head twice in SB's would score some points with the HOF committee. I don't see 2 SB wins being enough but he does have the playoff record to be considered. What hurts him is his regular seasons haven't been that stellar he's committed far too many turnovers.
 

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Eli has done no such thing and he's far from a lock for anything. Keep dreaming, fake Cowboys fan.

Stating the facts is being a fake Cowboys fan now? LMAO.

I wish Romo had the resume Eli did, but the simple fact is our can't get it done.
 
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