Does Ware Have One Good Year Left In Him?

[theSHOW]

Yep..

Jerrah keeps people around past their prime..

which is nice if you are Jerrahs wife..

..but not so nice if you are his QB or DE.

Nuf said.

his wife? omg...uncalled for!

 

[xwalker]

No the player can work out a deal to be completed post trade once they absorb initial contract

The team and the player would have to "work it out" prior to the trade. The team is not going to trade for the player and then "hope" that the player agrees to a reduced contract.

The new team has 3 options:
1. Pay the contract that came with the player from his original team.
2. Get the player to agree to a reduced contract.
3. Cut the player and get nothing in return for the draft pick.

 

[TTexasTT]

The team and the player would have to "work it out" prior to the trade. The team is not going to trade for the player and then "hope" that the player agrees to a reduced contract.

The new team has 3 options:
1. Pay the contract that came with the player from his original team.
2. Get the player to agree to a reduced contract.
3. Cut the player and get nothing in return for the draft pick.

We should ask him to work something out OR just go ahead and pay him.

He had a terrible year but Im not going to act like he isnt the most dominate player over the last few years. Hes not far removed from dominating and given his nagging, yet not serious injuries its not far fetched to imagine he will have a few more years of domination.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Don't like it..but its sort of like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

Don't you think?

Big infusion of talent on defense alone should make us better next year.

 

[Redball Express]

Big infusion of talent on defense alone should make us better next year.

OK..

Anything is possible and I don't mind optimism..

Used to be that way too..

Just not anymore after watching the team since '65..

Its just not working anymore..

..the magic is gone to me.

This team is not good..plays below its potential every Sunday.

It gets by on whatever Romo can cobble together..

and they are just nothing to get excited about.

My take.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Has hasnt done anything for 2 years. Hes not worth keeping even at 1/4 of his pay! I think spencer showed more than him playing a half a game this year.

 

[gimmesix]

Robert Mathis went from 8 to 19.5 sacks in his age 32 season. Never had more than 11 his whole career. Heck, Phillips and Abraham both the best season they had in years. Bruce Smith had 14 sacks when he was 34.
Do any of you guys think its out of the realm of possibility for him to have some sort of a rejuvenating year next year?

What type of numbers you think he will put up next year.

(Yes, in a Cowboy uniform)

At this point in career, we need a new Ware and to just allow our current Ware to be a complementary piece. That way we're not counting on him to be the beast he has been and can just allow him to be that seasoned vet who does as much as his health allows.

If his health does allow it, I definitely can see him putting up 10-12 sacks and regularly getting pressure.

 

[TTexasTT]

At this point in career, we need a new Ware and to just allow our current Ware to be a complementary piece. That way we're not counting on him to be the beast he has been and can just allow him to be that seasoned vet who does as much as his health allows.

If his health does allow it, I definitely can see him putting up 10-12 sacks and regularly getting pressure.

The only problem is in the "we need a new Ware" statement. He was about as dominate of a player to ever play that position.

I get what youre saying for sure. Grabbing a Aldon Smith or someone along those lines is going to be rough. Also, with all the pieces missing, even after the draft, I doubt Dallas will have the luxury of just rotating him in from time to time.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WareDe99.htm#defense::none

 

[noshame]

The team and the player would have to "work it out" prior to the trade. The team is not going to trade for the player and then "hope" that the player agrees to a reduced contract.

The new team has 3 options:
1. Pay the contract that came with the player from his original team.
2. Get the player to agree to a reduced contract.
3. Cut the player and get nothing in return for the draft pick.

Exactly, the cowboys would give permission for the team to work a deal pre-trade. Of course, they still need to absorb the original contract at the time of the trade, then reduce the cap hit later.

 

[xwalker]

Exactly, the cowboys would give permission for the team to work a deal pre-trade. Of course, they still need to absorb the original contract at the time of the trade, then reduce the cap hit later.

They could just have the Cowboys give him the pay cut if absorbing the initial contract was an issue.

The point, which I made earlier, is why would Ware agree to a pay cut?

 

[TTexasTT]

Exactly, the cowboys would give permission for the team to work a deal pre-trade. Of course, they still need to absorb the original contract at the time of the trade, then reduce the cap hit later.

Yeah, thats happening.

 

[noshame]

They could just have the Cowboys give him the pay cut if absorbing the initial contract was an issue.

The point, which I made earlier, is why would Ware agree to a pay cut?

Because he could go to the team of his choice and get a multi year deal. With a signing bonus.

 

[noshame]

Yeah, thats happening.

It has a better chance than you showing some football knowledge.

 

[hutch1254]

The issue isn't whether he has a good year or few good years left in him. The issue is that Dallas cannot pay the type of money next year for the level of productivity they're getting in return. The level of uncertainty in the amount of productivity they think they can get back from Ware is pretty high in my opinion. Frankly to me, it's either he accepts a healthy pay cut or good bye. It's not personal it's business and even in the business of remaining "relevant" vs the business of winning it is still a financial move that needs to be made.

 

[TTexasTT]

It has a better chance than you showing some football knowledge.

Lulz, the irony here is strong.

In this very same thread you said that we should trade Miles Austin for a 3rd round pick.

Wonderful idea, really. Perhaps we can trade Haden to the Texans for the first overall pick as well.

 

[xwalker]

Because he could go to the team of his choice and get a multi year deal. With a signing bonus.

He could do that by turning down a pay cut.

 

[TTexasTT]

The issue isn't whether he has a good year or few good years left in him. The issue is that Dallas cannot pay the type of money next year for the level of productivity they're getting in return. The level of uncertainty in the amount of productivity they think they can get back from Ware is pretty high in my opinion. Frankly to me, it's either he accepts a healthy pay cut or good bye. It's not personal it's business and even in the business of remaining "relevant" vs the business of winning it is still a financial move that needs to be made.

No doubt, its business. Sadly, this area of the team is clearly the worse on a defense that was perhaps the most pathetic on Dallas history. There looks to be little hope of keeping Hatcher and Spencer doesnt look to be coming in to help either. Its almost as if Dallas cant afford to pay him, yet cant afford to let him leave. In the end I believe they just need to pay him and hope to god that this year was just a bad year.

 

[xwalker]

his wife? omg...uncalled for!

He's calling out Jerry's wife, meanwhile he's married to Rosanne Barr's younger doppelganger.

 

[hutch1254]

No doubt, its business. Sadly, this area of the team is clearly the worse on a defense that was perhaps the most pathetic on Dallas history. There looks to be little hope of keeping Hatcher and Spencer doesnt look to be coming in to help either. Its almost as if Dallas cant afford to pay him, yet cant afford to let him leave. In the end I believe they just need to pay him and hope to god that this year was just a bad year.

That is probably what will happen. There will be that feeling by the front office that they need a veteran to anchor the line regardless of dollars or productivity. What this may do, however, is for the front office into more restructuring and we find ourselves in the same situation with another player at another position down the road. Endless loop.

For me I'm ready to move forward with 4 fresh faces and them create their own identity with each other. The DL situation is a lot different than the drafting/development that occurred on the Oline that Latin Mind mentions in a thread he created.

 

[alicetooljam]

DeMarcus Ware has not lost a step. He is nearly as quick as he has ever been off the snap.

WHA? Maybe Im confused on what lost a step means.