Dolphins safety receiving threats too

[Zekeats]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ceived-death-threats-kneeling-national-anthem

"Regardless if it's serious or not, no one has come to my doorstep yet with a gun. I know what I'm standing for is right. I believe that in my heart and I'm going to continue to do what I got to do to keep the conversation going."

The truth is what you are not standing for is WRONG. The National Anthem is all about our Nations Freedom. People from all over the world would love to come here and stand for our National Anthem and our Freedom. There are other ways to protest. How about standing up in the locker room after a game and verbally stating your case. All of the media will come listen.

I for one am not against the protest but it can be much more tasteful than turning your back on the flag. The flag stands for all that is good in the greatest county in the world. Every country comes to our country not the other way around and they all do it for Freedom.

I also think it's funny how the Goodell and the NFL have not stepped in and just come out and donate 10 million dollars to a fund of the players choice to make a statement already. A billion dollar industry and they can't do that. The 49ers already put 1 million in but the NFL and Goodell are too focused on weed problems.

 

[erod]

When you don't stand for the anthem, you're making the entire game about YOU. That organization is your employer. Those players are your teammates. Sunday is about winning a game together, not your social grievances or personal agenda. Play football or quit.

If you want to speak out on your own time, then fine. But when you're at work, you work. Just like the rest of us.

 

[ilykdrama]

Sure you wanna open up this conversation about whether this is right or wrong and make this a 40 page thread that gets shut down because people get nasty REAL quick?

 

[ConceptCoop]

The truth is what you are not standing for is WRONG. The National Anthem is all about our Nations Freedom. People from all over the world would love to come here and stand for our National Anthem and our Freedom.

I disagree. The National Anthem is a symbol. Symbols don't have universal meaning; the meaning is personal and unique to each individual. Those involved have already said they're not protesting the military or those who died for our freedom. Thus, it's not fair tell them that they are, just because that's what it means to you.

There are other ways to protest. How about standing up in the locker room after a game and verbally stating your case. All of the media will come listen.

Other forms of protest do nothing. The goal is to raise awareness, and verbally stating your case in a locker room doesn't do that. That doesn't doesn't make headlines or make people uncomfortable. The point of protesting is to make people uncomfortable so that they consider things that they had taken for granted to that point.

I think it is awesome that they are standing up for something they believe in. Where I come down on the subject isn't what's important, in my opinion. They've hurt no one and have started a national conversation about something important to them. If that's not American, I don't know what it.

 

[gmoney112]

Whatever your opinion is, it's your right to have it and no one should receive threats for doing so as long as it isn't hurting anyone.

 

[ConceptCoop]

When you don't stand for the anthem, you're making the entire game about YOU. That organization is your employer. Those players are your teammates. Sunday is about winning a game together, not your social grievances or personal agenda. Play football or quit.

If you want to speak out on your own time, then fine. But when you're at work, you work. Just like the rest of us.

They made it about the issues they are trying to bring awareness to. They used the only meaningful voice they had. Corporations shouldn't dictate American dialog. We should be willing to side against our employers when we feel it's the right thing to do.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

Whatever your opinion is, it's your right to have it and no one should receive threats for doing so as long as it isn't hurting anyone.

/thread

 

[dagreat1_87]

Man, i always find it funny when people try to dictate how or when someone should protests. We have aggressive protests against police brutality, "Hey that's not the best way, do something else". We do it peacefully by taking a knee, "hey that's not the best way do something else". Just can never be convenient for some people huh?

 

[erod]

They made it about the issues they are trying to bring awareness to. They used the only meaningful voice they had. Corporations shouldn't dictate American dialog. We should be willing to side against our employers when we feel it's the right thing to do.

Then they need to do it on their own time. If one of my employees did that, I'd fire them on the spot.

 

[CATCH17]

They made it about the issues they are trying to bring awareness to. They used the only meaningful voice they had. Corporations shouldn't dictate American dialog. We should be willing to side against our employers when we feel it's the right thing to do.

NFL Players kneeling during the National Anthem is the only meaningful voice they have?

 

[erod]

Man, i always find it funny when people try to dictate how or when someone should protests. We have aggressive protests against police brutality, "Hey that's not the best way, do something else". We do it peacefully by taking a knee, "hey that's not the best way do something else". Just can never be convenient for some people huh?

It's not his time. That's the 49ers time. He needs to protest on his own time, not when he taking millions of dollars for doing his job during a game.

 

[dagreat1_87]

It's not his time. That's the 49ers time. He needs to protest on his own time, not when he taking millions of dollars for doing his job during a game.

i'm curious. when exactly does he clock in for the 49ers? when he gets to the stadium? when he puts on the uniform? when the game actually starts?

I could see if mid-game he stops in the middle of the field and takes a knee but he isn't. he's not disrupting anybody or anything.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Then they need to do it on their own time. If one of my employees did that, I'd fire them on the spot.

There is no league mandated patriotism; he's not breaking any league rule. He's showing up to work and doing his job. Standing for a song is not part of his job.

You're essentially arguing that patriotism should be mandated and enforce by employers. That's not what patriotism is. That's not America. That's **** Germany. That's North Korea.

 

[Doomsday101]

while I disagree with these player who are kneeling or raising a fist during the national anthem is their right. Again I think it is stupid given these men are making millions playing a game in this country but I will lose no sleep over them making a statement.

 

[erod]

I'm proud that none of the Cowboys players have shown themselves to be self-centered, delusional imbeciles on this matter to date.

Look at the players that have done this. Couldn't add their IQs into a baker's dozen.

 

[ConceptCoop]

NFL Players kneeling during the National Anthem is the only meaningful voice they have?

Doing something that makes headlines is. I think this is one of the most peaceful, but effective means of doing that. If he shared his thoughts to a reporter or in a blog, we wouldn't be having the conversation. And that is the point - to get us to have this conversation.

 

[dagreat1_87]

Doing something that makes headlines is. I think this is one of the most peaceful, but effective means of doing that. If he shared his thoughts to a reporter or in a blog, we wouldn't be having the conversation. And that is the point - to get us to have this conversation.

 

[erod]

There is no league mandated patriotism; he's not breaking any league rule. He's showing up to work and doing his job. Standing for a song is not part of his job.

You're essentially arguing that patriotism should be mandated and enforce by employers. That's not what patriotism is. That's not America. That's **** Germany. That's North Korea.

Oh, good Lord. Stand poliltely and think whatever you want. But don't make the anthem about yourself.

Bottom line, Kaepernick has been benched, and he's about to be out of the league and forgotten. So, he's decided to go Michael Sam on us for attention.

 

[erod]

Doing something that makes headlines is. I think this is one of the most peaceful, but effective means of doing that. If he shared his thoughts to a reporter or in a blog, we wouldn't be having the conversation. And that is the point - to get us to have this conversation.

There's no need for a conversation. But that's for another forum.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

Whatever your opinion is, it's your right to have it and no one should receive threats for doing so as long as it isn't hurting anyone.

You win.