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[LandryFan]

Good catch. You're right. It's not my place to tell you what should offend you. I just think it's a good practice not to be offending by other people's take on a symbol. I think we're all better when we challenge that.

Being offended (or not) isn't a matter of good "practice". What offends us comes from how we were raised, educated, and our own life experiences.
I am offended by Kaepernick's method of protest. That said, I fully support his right to do that. In the words of Yakov Smirnoff, "What a country!".

 

[ConceptCoop]

To add...the fact that they're sitting on their ***** is the equivalent of a slur, to me. You asked why I'm offended and I told you. But somehow my 63 years of life experiences and years of education have gained me nothing, not even the right to an opinion.

When did I say your opinion was wrong? I'm simply pointing out that your education and 63 years of life experiences make up one viewpoint. If not standing for the flag is the EQ of calling someone a n*****, then that's your opinion. But that doesn't mean everyone should be expected to live by that. I personally think it would be a sad life for me, if overtime someone didn't stand for the flag I felt like they called me a racial slur. That doesn't sound like a fun way to live. But you're 100% right that your opinion is as valid as anyone else and you shouldn't apologize for having it.

 

[LandryFan]

When did I say your opinion was wrong? I'm simply pointing out that your education and 63 years of life experiences make up one viewpoint. If not standing for the flag is the EQ of calling someone a n*****, then that's your opinion. But that doesn't mean everyone should be expected to live by that. I personally think it would be a sad life for me, if overtime someone didn't stand for the flag I felt like they called me a racial slur. That doesn't sound like a fun way to live. But you're 100% right that your opinion is as valid as anyone else and you shouldn't apologize for having it.

You are clearly missing the point I intended. Probably my fault for not communicating clearly. I intended it as a metaphor, of sorts.
My main point was that we don't get to choose who gets offended by what. If our actions offend, then they offend. But, it's not that big of a deal, really.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

There aren't.

Don't point guns at cops, and do what they say. You'll be fine. Why is it all these folks getting shot have a rap sheet? Coincidence?

This is not the place for this.

what was on Tamir Rice's rap sheet?

 

[erod]

I'm not trying to be condescending or be a jerk in anyway. Even though we disagree, I appreciate the conversation. We might not change our minds, but it's good to have our opinions questioned so that we know we believe for the right reason. So don't take this the wrong way:

The Dr. King in popular culture is a very different person than the actual man. His statements and actions were received with much more vitriol than Kaepernick's are today. He was called racist, selfish, a terrorist, and many other things. The FBI was working to discredit him, even.

I know why you would think so, but I highly doubt Dr. King would take any issue with Kaepernick's silent, peaceful protest. Kind did much more than that in his lifetime. The pop culture MLK - sure. But the actual man, I just don't see it.

I know the stories well. I understand the fight he was up against. I also understand his shortcomings, too. A lot of women along the way.

But Dr. King's legacy won. People thereafter slowly but surely mended a lot of wayward feelings and came together. That was happening, and continuing to happen. It was good.

Then, BAM!, Trayvon Martin. Michael Brown. Dozens more just like them. Common, everyday thugs being propped up like saintly victims. These aren't the people Dr. King fought for.

A former business partner of mine is black, and a longtime family friend to this day. He is beside himself. He is sick of having these types of people and leaders "represent" him. If Kaepernick was standing in front of him, Reggie would beat his ***. LOL And I'm not kidding, he could.

 

[erod]

what was on Tamir Rice's rap sheet?

I don't know, what was on all the white people's rap sheet that were shot last year. There were a LOT more of them.

Are you asking me if a cop ever made a mistake? .

 

[dagreat1_87]

These are ten-time criminals with guns and drugs. Stop identifying them with the cause of Dr. King.

The black man has more opportunity and respect in America than anywhere in the world. If you want to be patronized and looked through, go to Europe. If you want to be a complete afterthought, go to South America. If you want to be avoided altogether, try Asia.

America welcomes diversity. But the chosen "leaders" of this cause amass their wealth through the mere existence of racial tensions. Progress is not in their best interests. It's been driven into the souls of young black America through racist policy like Affirmative Action and college entry requirements. They've been schooled to be lessened by the very people that claim to want to help them.

Add the absolutely scary lack of fathers, and an out-of-control destruction of the family unit, and I don't see where the hope is.

For the record, the quote was in regards to kapes protest not the unlawful killings. I also love how someone who isnt black loves to tell black people how good we have it lol. You pretty much just said "be happy being here because its so much worse for you everywhere else" lol

 

[tlw]

It saddens me to read the glee some have when showcasing their ignorance on this topic. Terrence Crutcher was murdered in Tulsa. Keith Lamont was murdered in Charlotte.

To confuse the details of the two situations shows one's ignorance and lack of understanding to even discuss the topic.

If your lack of concern when speaking on police brutality is so great that you don't know or care enough to research and educate yourself, why respond?

Your lack of knowledge tells the reader you don't care when your silence would have suffice.

As an Army veteran I'm very proud with their protests and I hope more will join the cause. Because it is an important one. A life and death one. When a life, something we can not replace, is taken it requires the upmost level of attention.

As often in this world, if you're not personally affected by an issue you do nothing to help and aid those that do. I get it. I understand it. But don't ever belittle someone else's concerns because you don't care. Don't tell someone else that their concern is false because you cannot relate. Because you refuse to educate yourself on the topic.


And Dr. King would be mortified to know that him being spit on, jailed, and ultimately MURDERED for speaking out on this very topic has resulted in little progress today.

Please note, If you care enough to speak his name educate yourself on his plight. It's not hard and it won't take long. Do not whitewash the racism and bigotry he faced for PROTESTING. And do not skip over the fact he was murdered for PROTESTING. MURDERED.

Educate yourself on what he protested and how he protested. Read his quotes beyond one line in his I have a Dream speech. If you want help I'll be more than happy to help you or guide you.

 

[ConceptCoop]

I know the stories well. I understand the fight he was up against. I also understand his shortcomings, too. A lot of women along the way.

You're familiar with COINTELPRO? If so, how can you take the FBI's claims that king was cheating as gospel?

Oh well, I've gone off track here. The two of us have likely had the conversation there to be had. Likely time to move on. Cheers.

 

[dogunwo]

The black man has more opportunity and respect in America than anywhere in the world

So this makes it ok to be treated a certain way because it's better than other countries? How much time have you spent being black?

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I don't know, what was on all the white people's rap sheet that were shot last year. There were a LOT more of them.

Are you asking me if a cop ever made a mistake? .

you said, "Don't point guns at cops, and do what they say. You'll be fine. Why is it all these folks getting shot have a rap sheet? Coincidence?"

Which is either willfully ignorant or you lying.

Asking me about white people shot, has nothing to do with my question, because I made no blanket claim that they all deserved it.

If I claimed that only black people are innocently shot by police, then yes, ask that question, otherwise you're making a straw man argument to deflect from your statement.

 

[ConceptCoop]

It saddens me to read the glee some have when showcasing their ignorance on this topic. Terrence Crutcher was murdered in Tulsa. Keith Lamont was murdered in Charlotte.

To confuse the details of the two situations shows one's ignorance and lack of understanding to even discuss the topic.

If your lack of concern when speaking on police brutality is so great that you don't know or care enough to research and educate yourself, why respond?

Your lack of knowledge tells the reader you don't care when your silence would have suffice.

As an Army veteran I'm very proud with their protests and I hope more will join the cause. Because it is an important one. A life and death one. When a life, something we can not replace, is taken it requires the upmost level of attention.

As often in this world, if you're not personally affected by an issue you do nothing to help and aid those that do. I get it. I understand it. But don't ever belittle someone else's concerns because you don't care. Don't tell someone else that their concern is false because you cannot relate. Because you refuse to educate yourself on the topic.


And Dr. King would be mortified to know that him being spit on, jailed, and ultimately MURDERED for speaking out on this very topic has resulted in little progress today.

Please note, If you care enough to speak his name educate yourself on his plight. It's not hard and it won't take long. Do not whitewash the racism and bigotry he faced for PROTESTING. And do not skip over the fact he was murdered for PROTESTING. MURDERED.

Educate yourself on what he protested and how he protested. Read his quotes beyond one line in his I have a Dream speech. If you want help I'll be more than happy to help you or guide you.

Thank you for this, sincerely.

 

[ConceptCoop]

The black man has more opportunity and respect in America than anywhere in the world.

 

[erod]

For the record, the quote was in regards to kapes protest not the unlawful killings. I also love how someone who isnt black loves to tell black people how good we have it lol. You pretty much just said "be happy being here because its so much worse for you everywhere else" lol

OK, that road?

Will you take ownership of the true reasons - the real reasons - why the black community is struggling in America today? (By the way, a pretty fair percentage isn't struggling at all, in fact.)

Or is it my fault? Deflection and blame is institutionalized so deeply, it's not even realized anymore. There's no hope in that.

 

[erod]

Travel.

 

[erod]

So this makes it ok to be treated a certain way because it's better than other countries? How much time have you spent being black?

How much time have you spent being white? There are a LOT more poor white people in America than black people. And there are a helluva lot of successful black people, too. Tons. They are ignored entirely.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Travel.

Amsterdam, Munich, Paris, London, Milan and Venice in the last 2 years. Any more life advice for me?

 

[ConceptCoop]

How much time have you spent being white? There are a LOT more poor white people in America than black people. And there are a helluva lot of successful black people, too. Tons. They are ignored entirely.

9% of whites are in poverty. 27% of blacks are in poverty.

 

[erod]

Amsterdam, Munich, Paris, London, Milan and Venice in the last 2 years. Any more life advice for me?

And how many black leaders do you see in government there?

Please follow this guy.

https://twitter.com/KIR_bigg50

 

[erod]

9% of whites are in poverty. 27% of blacks are in poverty.

And the internal problems within those situations are the same, black or white. No father at home, lots of kids from lots of dads, mom is overwhelmed so grandma took over. No focus on education. No parental skills or interest in such. Black or white, the formula is the same. Government can't fix that.

This is WAY out of hand. And it's not even a Romo thread.

I'm out.