Dom Capers has been offered a position by the Cowboys as...

[Bob Sacamano]

C'mon now. We for a fact know the OC was hired before Wade. We know for a fact the OC just got a raise that brought his salary up to where Wade is at.

As for speculation, it was reported that Wade wanted Solari but Jerry got Houck. Capers is being courted right after Garrett was sai to have him lined up if he took the Ravens job. Campo has no ties to Wade.

So I agree these recent staff moves are speculation - there are far more signs that point to it being done by Jerry with Garrett in mind, than it is just Wade trying to fill out his own staff. It takes much more twisting to try and spin the latter.

TUNNEL VISION

Campo, we needed a secondary coach, he was the best available, we couldnt' get Emmitt Thomas

our team, one and done in the playoffs, thus meaning all facets of the team need to be improved, which means improving the O, by retaining Garrett and keeping the continuity, which had to be done via a substantial raise preventing Garrett from getting one, but as the HC of another team, and improving the D, which means filling the vacated coaching positions, and possibly adding another defensive wizard to the staff, Capers, dont' forget he may just be hired to coach LBs

More often than not when this does happen, it's a new HC retaining some of the former staff. Very rarely do you see management hiring staff for an existing HC. And very rarely if ever do you see management hiring staff for a HC in waiting, while the current HC is here. Of course, I know this is all just speculation regardless of what we actually see.

the game changes, very rarely were assistant coaches being paid mil plus salaries, now we have assistants making up to 2-3 mil nowadays

you rarely used to see 3-4 defenses, in fact for a number of years, Pittsburgh was the only team who used that defense, next year there is the possibility that 5 or 6 teams will be running the 3-4 next year

who knows, Jerry may have just thought of the idea of grooming head coaches and getting the staff in place for whenever he's felt ready to run the team?

Wade's contract is nearing an end in the foreseeable future, and we are a contending team, do we want to start all over again when he leaves? risking that contention? no

preparing for the future, while protecting today, is a good thing

The thing here is that it was Abe building his own cabinet. If Wade wants to bring in coaches for his staff more qualified than he is, then more power to him.

I love that you have principles, but save it

as Hos keeps saying, the only thing that matters is if a competent staff is being put in place, the end justifies the means, and it's not like Jerry is doing anything immoral here, or against a code of ethics, or Wade would be putting up a tiff about it, as he has displayed previously

 

[Bach]

rosy pic only? you new here? wanting someone to stop being a broken record on a topic that won't change is far from wanting rosy posts all around. this is not one extreme or the other but more what happens in between that gets pushed to one extreme or the other. you don't have to be all rosey at all, i just wish you'd stop the constant barrage of jabs and slaps to jones. tone it down 50% and we've made huge progress.

Believe it or not, many on here really do want all rosy posts. But like Hos said, it goes with the territory. And I know some think they are "superfans" if they always paint rosy pics and nod up and down at every move.

As for being a broken record, that goes both ways. I've seen quite a few on here that hardly ever even post about the team. They just seem to go around complaining about other people's posts. Kind of humorous actually.

NOW - IF WE KNEW WADE was going to be here and IF JASON GARRETT was not being groomed - the traditional way you suggest would be fine and more the norm. but he's not. jones is trying to WIN TODAY as well as build for tomorrow. like i said, if he was letting wade call all the shots i can see you mad because wade won't be here very long so why does he get such power for a lame duck coach.

even if jones did what you suggest you'd find something to whine about him for anyway. THAT is what gets old.

Talk about darned if you do and darned if you don't. You are already complaining and flaming me for things you assume I might do under hypothetical circumstances. You people are hilarious.

As for the situation itself, Wade should be in control of his own staff. If we are grooming Jason, then fine, groom him. No point in hiring staff for him until he is the HC.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

fixed.

we also know you don't care who else does what - only what jones does. THEN you use who else does what except when they don't and suddenly it doesn't matter. except for jones.

you're head is gonna explode if you ever have a revalation of how you sound right now.

I don't think we should invite Bach to a factual argument, as he's spelled out that he doesn't use examples to support his argument

 

[Bach]

then how do you arrive at what "should be" if you don't care what everyone else does but one?

dude - do you not see how in circles this hatred has made you?

I guess you conveniently didn't happen to read the rest of the post where I said I would want the HC to have the say in his own staff.

I mentioned the thing about the equipment manager simply because in the grand scheme of things, I could careless if they screw it up in Miami, because I'm not a Dolphins fan.

Capiche?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Believe it or not, many on here really do want all rosy posts. But like Hos said, it goes with the territory. And I know some think they are "superfans" if they always paint rosy pics and nod up and down at every move.

funny, since you seem to think Wade is doing the same thing

why do you even root for the Cowboys and post here?

you hate the owner, think the HC is a joke, think we're superfans, just quit

No point in hiring staff for him until he is the HC.

Mr. tunnel-vision, could you look both ways please instead of staring straight ahead?

it's about improving the coaching staff because we failed to live up to expectations, w/ possibly the idea of getting a staff in place for whenever JG gets handed the reigns

 

[Bach]

:laugh2: yeah, that logic is pretty ****ed up

"I think an HC should hire his own staff



unless it's a team I don't care about"

You guys really should check into reading comprehension, instead of just making posts say what you want them to say.

 

[Rampage]

funny, since you seem to think Wade is doing the same thing

why do you even root for the Cowboys and post here?

you hate the owner, think the HC is a joke, think we're superfans, just quit



Mr. tunnel-vision, could you look both ways please instead of staring straight ahead?

it's about improving the coaching staff because we failed to live up to expectations, w/ possibly the idea of getting a staff in place for whenever JG gets handed the reigns

hey bob, i'm not much of a jerry fan myself and was wondering what you think is so good about him?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I guess you conveniently didn't happen to read the rest of the post where I said I would want the HC to have the say in his own staff.

I mentioned the thing about the equipment manager simply because in the grand scheme of things, I could careless if they screw it up in Miami, because I'm not a Dolphins fan.

Capiche?

guess you conveniently forgot to start thinking

if you want an HC to have say in the creation of his staff, shouldn't that apply to all HCs? that's the grand scheme, and who says Wade isn't having a say? do we have to continue to slap you in the face w/ the fact that Wade lost a HC job before, for not bending to the wishes of an owner, till you finally acknowledge it, and quit w/ the stupid idea that Wade is being mute on the whole issue?

 

[Bach]

What may be happening sums it all up! None of us know EXACTLY what's going on...... merely speculation. We don't know what's being discussed between WP and JJ. What the heck, lets keep the SPECULATION up.... it's the offseason!


:laugh2:

Interesting how you have no problem with folks speculating Wade is making all these decisions.

 

[Doomsday101]

funny, since you seem to think Wade is doing the same thing

why do you even root for the Cowboys and post here?

you hate the owner, think the HC is a joke, think we're superfans, just quit



Mr. tunnel-vision, could you look both ways please instead of staring straight ahead?

it's about improving the coaching staff because we failed to live up to expectations, w/ possibly the idea of getting a staff in place for whenever JG gets handed the reigns

1st and foremost this is about replacing coaches we have recently lost. Dallas is doing that and doing so with some very good and experienced people but for whatever reason that is a bad thing?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You guys really should check into reading comprehension, instead of just making posts say what you want them to say.

you want an HC to have a role in how his staff is shaped, but don't give a **** if that's the case, or not, if it's a HC on a team you don't care about

that's what you said

 

[Bach]

guess you conveniently forgot to start thinking

SO did you read the rest of the post or not? Or are you just more interested in making a fool out of yourself?

 

[jcblanco22]

I don't care about anything else except seeing the mountains of black-and-white composition notebooks that Capers supposedly has that allegedly contain extremely detailed accounts of every single day of his adult life. No lie, right down to the clothes he was wearing each day and all of the meals he ate.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Stewart wasn't the problem last year...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

hey bob, i'm not much of a jerry fan myself and was wondering what you think is so good about him?

I think Jerry is a great business man, who's finally getting how it takes to run a successful franchise

but this is not the issue

 

[Bach]

you want an HC to have a role in how his staff is shaped, but don't give a **** if that's the case, or not, if it's a HC on a team you don't care about

that's what you said

I said I don't care what Miami does since I'm not a Dolphins fan. I should've known you guys wouldn't be able to comprehend that or would try to spin it.

I clearly stated I think a HC should have control of his staff. Do you want me to say it slower so you'll understand it?

 

[Hostile]

C'mon now. We for a fact know the OC was hired before Wade. We know for a fact the OC just got a raise that brought his salary up to where Wade is at.

Do you know whether or not Jerry went to Wade and said he would compensate him for agreeing to this?

No? Shocking.

As for speculation, it was reported that Wade wanted Solari but Jerry got Houck. Capers is being courted right after Garrett was sai to have him lined up if he took the Ravens job. Campo has no ties to Wade.

In 1948 it was reported Dewey had won the Presidency of the United States. Didn't make it true.

Campo has no ties to Garrett either. In fact the only salient fact is we lost a DB coach, Campo is a DB coach, and was hired here to be the DB Coach. You have no idea whether Campo approached Wade at the Senior Bowl workouts and asked about the position. In fact, I'd wager that is more likely than the idea that Jerry longed to have back a guy he fired, because for all his faults I just don't see Jerry as someone who tolerates failure.

So I agree these recent staff moves are speculation - there are far more signs that point to it being done by Jerry with Garrett in mind, than it is just Wade trying to fill out his own staff. It takes much more twisting to try and spin the latter.

I don't agree, but as I said already I really don't care as long as the moves are solid moves, and so far they are.

More often than not when this does happen, it's a new HC retaining some of the former staff. Very rarely do you see management hiring staff for an existing HC. And very rarely if ever do you see management hiring staff for a HC in waiting, while the current HC is here. Of course, I know this is all just speculation regardless of what we actually see.

Until you can show me any evidence that Jerry is hamstringing Wade this is all fluff and marshmallows. I've seen no evidence that Wade is frustrated, upset, or wringing his hands. All evidene to the contrary, he looks ot be having the time of his life.

The thing here is that it was Abe building his own cabinet. If Wade wants to bring in coaches for his staff more qualified than he is, then more power to him.

See, you agree with me.

No problems. I have my wood ready.

Right below the dart board where you're creating kindling no doubt.

 

[Rampage]

I think Jerry is a great business man, who's finally getting how it takes to run a successful franchise

but this is not the issue

ok, just wondering. i hope i didn't interupt your battle with bach

 

[burmafrd]

Campo was a coach here when Garrett was still a backup QB, right?

 

[Bach]

Do you know whether or not Jerry went to Wade and said he would compensate him for agreeing to this?

No? Shocking.

What does this have to do with the fact Garrett WAS hired before Wade and that Jerry is now paying Garrett HC $$$? All I was pointing out is that this is a fact. Couple that with many of these other moves made and even Ray Charles could see what is going on here.

I just don't see Jerry as someone who tolerates failure.

I do. We haven't won a playoff game in 11 years, yet Jerry still has the same crappy GM in place. Good thing he doesn't tolerate failure.

I don't agree, but as I said already I really don't care as long as the moves are solid moves, and so far they are.

Until you can show me any evidence that Jerry is hamstringing Wade this is all fluff and marshmallows. I've seen no evidence that Wade is frustrated, upset, or wringing his hands. All evidene to the contrary, he looks ot be having the time of his life.

Wade just might not mind. I mean what are his options? Take $3 million a year or quit. Hmm... I think I'd do what he's doing and take the money and smile.