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LOL at the idea that "I played organized athletics, so I can read no-heart body language on the sidelines."
 

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Chocolate Lab;3135236 said:
LOL at the idea that "I played organized athletics, so I can read no-heart body language on the sidelines."

That's not what I'm saying at all. Anyone can see that.

My point is people who have played organized athletics know how important having a mental edge is, and how detrimental it can be when you lack said edge
 

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Chocolate Lab;3135236 said:
LOL at the idea that "I played organized athletics, so I can read no-heart body language on the sidelines."

You guys are killing me this morning.

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Doomsday101;3135228 said:
Because the upcoming games have not been played yet? I do agree that the talk of Dec past will only grow louder unless Dallas turns it around and right now they have a chance to do that this weekend at home vs SD.

I agree they have a chance, but they had a chance last week against a team inferior to the one they are playing this week and blew it.

All I'm saying is the odds are heavily stacked against us
 

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The30YardSlant;3135241 said:
That's not what I'm saying at all. Anyone can see that.

My point is people who have played organized athletics know how important having a mental edge is, and how detrimental it can be when you lack said edge

Apparently not all of them. ;)
 

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The30YardSlant;3135241 said:
That's not what I'm saying at all. Anyone can see that.

My point is people who have played organized athletics know how important having a mental edge is, and how detrimental it can be when you lack said edge

It is important but I do know from playing the game from pop Warner to college as a player I'm only thinking about what is in front of me not what took place a year ago or 2 years ago because I know there is not one thing I can do to change past results they are in the book done and over with. Losing to NY is a downer for this team but they have a chance this weekend to right the ship and if they do that it will be a very big boost to their confidence.
 

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Bach;3135246 said:
Apparently not all of them. ;)

I think they do, but are unwilling to admit it. You see, admitting this team has a mental block with regards to December would be acknowledging something most here are not willing to acknowledge.
 

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Doomsday101;3135247 said:
It is important but I do know from playing the game from pop Warner to college as a player I'm only thinking about what is in front of me not what took place a year ago or 2 years ago because I know there is not one thing I can do to change past results they are in the book done and over with. Losing to NY is a downer for this team but they have a chance this weekend to right the ship and if they do that it will be a very big boost to their confidence.

I agree any individual play that may be the case, but when you are on that sideline, in the huddle, etc. and looking up at the scoreboard, listening to the fans, and remembering that it is December, and you are supposed to fail in December, it can and does take a mental toll on you.

It's unavoidable, just natural doubt that we all get in times of hardship and strife.
 

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The30YardSlant;3135248 said:
I think they do, but are unwilling to admit it. You see, admitting this team has a mental block with regards to December would be acknowledging something most here are not willing to acknowledge.

That's probably true. I think it's called willful ignorance.
 

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No, I played organized athletics like probably 90% of people here, and I don't see this you're talking about on the sidelines.

What I think is happening is you're afraid this team is going to lose like it has in past years and you're letting your fears influence what you think you see. Because none of us know what is going to happen the rest of the year. If you know, then call Vegas with your life savings and get rich. You willing to do that? I didn't think so.

It's just way too simplistic to say that what happened last year or the year before is what will happen this year. Ask the Steelers or Patriots how that works.
 

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The30YardSlant;3135201 said:
He's not delusional. He's very intelligent and knowledgable.

Which is why I'm all but certain he knows that what I'm saying is a very distinct possibility.
So it has gone from a certainty to a distinct possibility.

Kind of what I said isn't it?

And you're right, I am not delusional. I've forgotten more than he will ever know and I haven't forgotten much.
 

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The30YardSlant;3135253 said:
I agree any individual play that may be the case, but when you are on that sideline, in the huddle, etc. and looking up at the scoreboard, listening to the fans, and remembering that it is December, and you are supposed to fail in December, it can and does take a mental toll on you.

It's unavoidable, just natural doubt that we all get in times of hardship and strife.

I think it is a topic when people bring it up I think when you are on the field you are thinking about what you need to do to get the job done here and now. I agree it is tough mentally when people on the outside continuously talk about it but for the Cowboys the only confidence builder they have is what is in front of them namely the SD Chargers.
 

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The30YardSlant;3135241 said:
That's not what I'm saying at all. Anyone can see that.

My point is people who have played organized athletics know how important having a mental edge is, and how detrimental it can be when you lack said edge
And you have no idea what edge they have. It is purely a guess on your part.

Can you admit that much?

Edit: None of us know what edge the players have or don't have. We're not on the sidelines or the locker room. No one, and I mean no one, can know what kind of edge they have without being among them. That is irrefutable. Ask anyone who played.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3135259 said:
No, I played organized athletics like probably 90% of people here, and I don't see this you're talking about on the sidelines.

What I think is happening is you're afraid this team is going to lose like it has in past years and you're letting your fears influence what you think you see. Because none of us know what is going to happen the rest of the year. If you know, then call Vegas with your life savings and get rich. You willing to do that? I didn't think so.

It's just way too simplistic to say that what happened last year or the year before is what will happen this year. Ask the Steelers or Patriots how that works.

It isnt fear, sadly it is acceptance at this point. I held out that little bit of hope last week, then I saw exactly what I have seen every year since 2005 when December rolls around.

We just play different in December.
 

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Hostile;3135268 said:
And you have no idea what edge they have. It is purely a guess on your part.

Can you admit that much?

Edit: None of us know what edge the players have or don't have. We're not on the sidelines or the locker room. No one, and I mean no one, can know what kind of edge they have without being among them. That is irrefutable. Ask anyone who played.

I'd call it an educated guess based on strong, repeated empirical evidence

If it isnt mental, then there really is no explanation for it. We play differently in December under Wade, that much is undeniable fact. If it isnt physical, which I don't believe any of us think it is considering how talented and relatively health we are, and it isnt mental, then...what? Are our coaches just going full ****** in the winter months? Is there some magical voodoo curse?
 

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The30YardSlant;3135284 said:
I'd call it an educated guess based on strong, repeated empirical evidence

If it isnt mental, then there really is no explanation for it. We play differently in December under Wade, that much is undeniable fact. If it isnt physical, which I don't believe any of us think it is considering how talented and relatively health we are, and it isnt mental, then...what? Are our coaches just going full ****** in the winter months? Is there some magical voodoo curse?
Also known as a shot in the dark.
 

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The30YardSlant;3135284 said:
I'd call it an educated guess based on strong, repeated empirical evidence

Also known as a trend. Until it changes, it's just that.
 

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KJJ;3135013 said:
Tomlin is an excellent young head coach who already has a ring

That's known as the Tony Dungy-Jon Gruden phenomenon (or Jimmy Johnson-Barry Switzer if you prefer). As much as I hate to admit it, Tomlin took Cowher's team and rode their coattails to a Superbowl win. He is a glorified cheerleader and a mouthpiece. What a nosedive the Squealers have taken. I think you will see them continue to slide now that Cowher is a few years removed.

Tomlin demands respect and has already proven he can take a team to the top.

See above. He hasn't taken a team anywhere but into a sub .500 record and out of the playoffs.

Cowboys are still in the thick of things. If they faulter you'll have about 9 more months to twist your panties in a knot and cry the blues, so why don't you do us all a favor and save it.
 

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CowboyFan74;3134652 said:
This post is a good example of being "Conveniently Optimistic." You sound like the Holier than thou group more than anything else.

Fans who have either lost hope or are pessimistic are still fans, what ever the case may be, who are you to say they hope we lose? Can you read minds?

No more so than you can. It's just the feeling I get from the way some come off on this board. It's quite possible I'm wrong. I have not real way of knowing as I don't know these people personally.

It's just all the feeling I get from the way a few come off in their posts. And how is it conveniently optimistic? I'm always optimistic with the team. Always.

I don't know what that is other than optimistic cause I just don't see the point in going into a competition with the thought process that "Oh well realistically we've got a great shot of losing and the trend of the last several years says we will so I'll just accept that it's likely."

I just don't do that. Never have and I never will.

To each their own though.


Bach;3135135 said:
And far too often anyone who states what they think gets attacked if it's not some rosey scenario. I said from the get-go that I thought they'd go 3-2 or 2-3 over the final five games but leaning towards 2-3. I also said that was based on the TOUGH SCHEDULE and the trend of them consistently not rising to the occasion and then folding late in the year. It's not about just the trend. If they played this same 5 game stretch in mid October I'd think we'd be doing good to get through it winning 3 of 5. We have two of the hottest teams in the league in N.O. and SD, plus all three divisional teams, two on the road.
But, it is a known fact this team also has consistently wilted down the stretch. That doesn't mean it's going to happen from here until eternity. But until they show they can win and up their intensity at this time of year then I'm going to be hesitant to give them the benefit of the doubt. And so far they met this late season push with a major dud effort against what should've been one of the two easiest games left on the schedule.



I go into every game hoping we'll win too. I went into this final five game stretching wanting to see us win all 5. But rationally, I don't think that will happen. But God forbid anyone dare mention what you rationally think around here.



It's not a defeatest attitude, it's a show-me attitude.

Difference of opinion I guess. I think people sitting around believing we'll lose, thinking it's most likely, predicting it to be likely are just having a defeatest attitude. I really, really, really hope there aren't any players in the entire league who go into their games with that kind of attitude because they've already lost before they even start the game if they're thinking that way.


The30YardSlant;3135222 said:
My issue is that, after the last two December's under Wade, why will this one be different, especially after what we saw last week?

So what you're saying is that as long as Wade is here we should just not play the December games? I mean why should the players expect it to be any different? Why bother showing up at all? The last 13 years have been terrible in the end so why even bother showing up at all at the end. Just back it in, call it a day, and accept that because the last two Decembers under Wade haven't been good so there is no reason to believe this one will be either.
 
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