Don't be surprised if the Cowboys end up missing the playoffs

[THUMPER]

I'm think most on here are fanatics about the Cowboys. But, does that mean when asked for a prediction you only have to predict pie-in-the-sky rosey scenarios?

And being a "realist" doesn't mean always being negative. In the 90's I expected a Super Bowl every year. Why? Because that was a legitimate prospect then.

2000-2002, predicting 10+ wins or a playoff experience wasn't rational, although many still did predict those rosey scenarios.

Now, having had 11 losing final-5-game-stretches in the last 13 years. It is definitely a real trend. If you ask me what I hope, I hope we go 4-1 or 5-0 to finish the year. But if asked what I expect, then I'd say I'm leaning towards 2-3. Although once the game begins I'm hoping every step of the way we win each one.

Some fans can logically post about the team and it's expectations while apparently others think in order to be a fan they have to paint a rosy picture no matter the actual circumstances. But when it gets down to it, both are just as much fans and want the team to win.

Whatever works for you.

 

[Bach]

Ummm...don't all trends just magically change? I mean, for example, when Peyton Manning finally won a playoff game what exactly, leading up to that, told you they'd break the trend that year? What trend was going on, prior to that, that made you think they'd finally win a playoff game?

When the Giants started out 6-2 and then stumbled down the stretch in 06 and 07 what trend, exactly, was going on that made you think that they'd actually go on that run in 07 and win it all? Obviously since trends don't just get broken out of thin air there must have been something, something concrete, you can point to that says "Hey this says they're going to win the Superbowl this year."

What trends, exactly, from last year told you that the Saints would be 12-0 at this point this year?

I'm just curious cause if you can pin point all those things, and point out when they're going to happen, then you must be one very rich son of a gun cause you'd be making a killing beating the odds in Vegas.

Trends are a guideline. Never once said they are set in stone. And yes, they can change. Funny though you mention Vegas, because they gauge their betting line by trends all the time.

And last week, when I mentioned I was leaning towards them finishing 2-3 it was based on the tough schedule AND the trend. There's multiple factors. But no doubt, until they show they've changed then the trend will stay intact.

 

[Everson24]

I am a negative person, but i feel very positive about this team and very confident about this weekends game. I don’t think this is the same team and i feel they now found something to rally around and i believe they will play their best game of the season.

My bones feel joy about this team and i can’t seem to shake it. I didn’t feel this way last week before the Giants game. Regardless if this team doesn’t make the playoffs, i did enjoy this years team. I like the players and i like the chemistry so much more than last years version. That’s all.

It seems that everyone was really positive going into last weeks game too,but as usual we choked it away with stupid mistakes and terrible tackling. I will not trust this team the rest of the season to play a smart game.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Trends are a guideline. Never once said they are set in stone. And yes, they can change. Funny though you mention Vegas, because they gauge their betting line by trends all the time.

And last week, when I mentioned I was leaning towards them finishing 2-3 it was based on the tough schedule AND the trend. There's multiple factors. But no doubt, until they show they've changed then the trend will stay intact.

So just for argument sake if they win 3 out of the next 4 or all 4 or whatever next year are we going in saying the trend is that we'll win in December or does everyone have to be "well maybe we'll win 3 out of 4 but I'm going to predict 1-3 just to be safe so I don't get my hopes up again."?

And how long do we have to win games in December before people can have faith that we will, instead of sitting around waiting for the worst to happen because some trend tells us we have to, before believing in our team in December is no longer a homer thing but is ok again?

I'm just curious cause I need to know how long it'll be before believing in your team, and having faith and hope in them, isn't considered some sort of awful thing that makes us meanie heads for daring to do so.

 

[KJJ]

I would appreciate you pointing out the posters (e.g. names) here on this site who do not understand the ramifications of winning or losing the final four games of the season.

Well apparently there's at least a couple because they like insinuating I'm not a fan because I'm pointing out the ramifications if we don't win at least 2 of our last 4 games.

1. That will be a very short finite list.

But a list none the less. :shades:

2. You are not enlightening the masses since "they" understand everything about the team's current situation as well as you do.

I'm trying to enlighten the ones who aren't part of the masses.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Well apparently there's at least a couple because they like insinuating I'm not a fan because I'm pointing out the ramifications if we don't win at least 2 of our last 4 games.



But a list none the less. :shades:



I'm trying to enlighten the ones who aren't part of the masses.

So you'll be enlightening exactly...no one. Do you think there are Cowboys fans out there who don't realise that we have to win at least 2 out of the final 4 to make the playoffs?

If you honestly think that I've got some Ocean front property here in Oklahoma I'd love to sell you. I'll give you a good deal on it.

 

[KJJ]

And if they win Sunday then what? Then the 'homers' got lucky? Or something along those lines?

Nothing along those lines. :doh:

 

[DallasEast]

Well apparently there's at least a couple because they like insinuating I'm not a fan because I'm pointing out the ramifications if we don't win at least 2 of our last 4 games.

It's your tone of doom which they are making you aware of. Your information is static and has long since been assimilated by everyone you are erroneously attempting to enlighten.

But a list none the less. :shades:

A list which you cannot deliver.

I'm trying to enlighten the ones who aren't part of the masses.

The question remains, "Who are these people?"

Until proven otherwise, it's no one here at CowboysZone.

 

[birdwells1]

I felt it was a huge mistake in 2007 to take those games lightly. I am very much against resting players late in the season for a number of reasons:

1. It is not fair to the people who bought tickets expecting to see the starters. If an owner wants to rest his players then he should issue refunds for half of the ticket price because the fans are not getting what they paid for. In essence it is fraud to play second-string players when the people who purchased the tickets did so with the understanding that the starters would be playing.

2. It sets the wrong tone going into the playoffs. You want to go in hot and on a roll not slack and hoping to turn it on when you get to the meaningful games.

3. Football is more of a TEAM sport than any other and it requires a HUGE amount of continuity to play it well. Playing 2nd string guys sounds like a good thing so your starters don't get hurt but it hurts the entire team when you do that.

I know people will say that if you lose a key starter in a meaningless game then you are screwed for the playoffs. If that were true then all those who say the games in Sept-Nov are meaningless should be pushing for us to rest our key starters until December.

Of course that's just my opinion of course.

You are so right. Indy has done that in the past and it has not worked out well for them.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Nothing along those lines. :doh:

Well what would it be then? Cause it seems to be the prevailing thought here that if you show any sort of belief or faith that this team will win that you're a blind homer who just isn't being realistic. That unless you're predicting doom and gloom then you're just being silly.

So if they run the table here and go 4-0 to streak into the playoffs then what is that? If it's not just blind luck on the part of the 'homers' what would it be then?

And for those who predicted doom and gloom if that happens then what does that mean for them? That they're still 'realists' who just happened to get something wrong? They were just unlucky that Dallas didn't just lose cause the trends say they're suppose to?

I'm curious as to what it says then. Are they suddenly no longer blind homers?

 

[zrinkill]

The only victims here are the blind homers who can't come to grips with reality. Answer me this Mr Optimistic if the Cowboys lose on Sunday what are their odds of going to NO riding a 2 game losing streak and beating the Saints there? It's probably going to take at least 10 wins to make the playoffs which means the Cowboys would have to win their final 2 games to qualify IF they drop their next 2 games. My point is if they don't win Sunday this team is going to be in serious trouble and any fan who would deny that has about as much sense as the uninspiring dope who's coaching this team.

So we should all ***** and moan and badmouth them until they win?

Should we all start thread after thread saying "Cowboys suck look at me I am a realist" until it happens?

You special posters really have no clue what you look like do you?

 

[THUMPER]

Well what would it be then? Cause it seems to be the prevailing thought here that if you show any sort of belief or faith that this team will win that you're a blind homer who just isn't being realistic. That unless you're predicting doom and gloom then you're just being silly.

So if they run the table here and go 4-0 to streak into the playoffs then what is that? If it's not just blind luck on the part of the 'homers' what would it be then?

And for those who predicted doom and gloom if that happens then what does that mean for them? That they're still 'realists' who just happened to get something wrong? They were just unlucky that Dallas didn't just lose cause the trends say they're suppose to?

I'm curious as to what it says then. Are they suddenly no longer blind homers?

I'm wondering what would happen to their trends if we win all 4 remaining games and lose in the first round of the playoffs. We will have won in December but failed anyway. Oh, I know, a new trend! :laugh2:

Personally, I think we will win this Sunday against a very good Chargers team.

 

[THUMPER]

So we should all ***** and moan and badmouth them until they win?

Should we all start thread after thread saying "Cowboys suck look at me I am a realist" until it happens?

You special posters really have no clue what you look like do you?

AWESOME!

 

[KJJ]

It's your tone of doom which they are making you aware of. Your information is static and has long since been assimilated by everyone you are erroneously attempting to enlighten.
A list which you cannot deliver.The question remains, "Who are these people?"

Until proven otherwise, it's no one here at CowboysZone.

Well if my information has long been assimilated by everyone I'm erroneously attempting to enlighten then how about you delivering a list. :toast: You just said it was my tone of doom which "they" are making me aware of so you already know who I'm attempting to enlighten. :doh:

 

[KJJ]

So we should all ***** and moan and badmouth them until they win?

Should we all start thread after thread saying "Cowboys suck look at me I am a realist" until it happens?

You special posters really have no clue what you look like do you?

The criticism of the Cowboys is going to continue by everyone until they start winning in Dec and advancing in the playoffs. Only Cincinnati has gone longer than the Cowboys without a playoff win and they have a chance of winning one this year. Maybe your standards for this team aren't very high and you're satisfied with just having a winning season every year. I'm frustrated with this team and coach and if you're not then you must like mediocrity.

 

[zrinkill]

The criticism of the Cowboys is going to continue by everyone until they start winning in Dec and advancing in the playoffs. Only Cincinnati has gone longer than the Cowboys without a playoff win and they have a chance of winning one this year. Maybe your standards for this team aren't very high and you're satisfied with just having a winning season every year. I'm frustrated with this team and coach and if you're not then you must like mediocrity.

You did not answer my question KJJ

How is that helping other than trying to make other fans feel worse?

Why do people like you want everyone else to be as miserable as you are?

I want a new head coach.
I want a change in the RB rotation.
I want a change in the DB rotation.
I want a change in the base D.

Should I spam the board with thread after thread or bring it up in everyone elses thread until it happens?

Should I take pleasure out of the Cowboys failures until they do what I want?

Because that is what it looks like you and your ilk do.

And you do it hiding behind the curtain of being a "realist".

 

[Bob Sacamano]

boy, there sure are alot of little, puny girls on this board

 

[Hostile]

You did not answer my question KJJ

How is that helping other than trying to make other fans feel worse?

Why do people like you want everyone else to be as miserable as you are?

I want a new head coach.
I want a change in the RB rotation.
I want a change in the DB rotation.
I want a change in the base D.

Should I spam the board with thread after thread or bring it up in everyone elses thread until it happens?

Should I take pleasure out of the Cowboys failures until they do what I want?

Because that is what it looks like you and your ilk do.

And you do it hiding behind the curtain of being a "realist".

The Cowboys Realist Army Platoon, aka CRAP is here Monsieur. How may we assist you?

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I swear poke is a genius with that one.

 

[zrinkill]

The Cowboys Realist Army Platoon, aka CRAP is here Monsieur. How may we assist you?

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I swear poke is a genius with that one.

:laugh2:

Who is that poor guy in the picture?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

yeah we needed another thread started by someone saying this is like all previous Decembers