Don't be surprised if the Cowboys end up missing the playoffs

[baj1dallas]

It's too early to give up. They haven't played bad defensive games back to back all season. If they play good defense and don't turn the ball over, they should win. If they win, and beat Washington, they will make the playoffs, especially if they beat Philly @ home.

 

[28 Joker]

Just home for work.

Look at the first thread.

Yep.

I'm on the Zone.

RUN.

Hide.

Doom.

 

[Rampage]

It's too early to give up. They haven't played bad defensive games back to back all season. If they play good defense and don't turn the ball over, they should win. If they win, and beat Washington, they will make the playoffs, especially if they beat Philly @ home.

did you forget about the 1st 2 games of the season?

 

[KJJ]

You did not answer my question KJJ

How is that helping other than trying to make other fans feel worse?

You haven't answered my question! Dude even though this is the holiday season I didn't start this thread to spread good cheer or depress anyone. Go download jingle bells and find a Christmas forum to cheer yourself up if you're bothered by facts. Some fans like good, honest, unbiased opinions about their team instead of listening to a bunch of homers who do nothing but sugar coat everything. If some of you fans are sensitive to the criticism the Cowboys receive then I suggest grab your box of Kleenex, put your blinders on and secure your ear plugs. The experts on ESPN and NFL Network criticize the team when it's warranted and give you the ugly facts of what the consequences are going to be if certain scenario's take place. For some of you here every post has to be positive and optimistic or you start reading nonsense into every negative comment. The criticism of this teams Dec failures is going to get even worse if the Cowboys lay another Dec egg and miss the playoffs...FACT! Wade likes shrugging things off and being positive all the time but that positive "everything will be fine" attitude isn't motivating this team and getting it over the hump. Someone needs to put their foot down in the organization and challenge the players to step up. Maybe Dennis insinuating they're losers will set a fire under this team Sunday because we know the coach sure as hell won't!

Why do people like you want everyone else to be as miserable as you are?

LOL I'm not miserable that's just you reading hate into everything I say because It's not positive enough for you. I never came on here predicting the Cowboys are going down this season all I'm doing is pointing out they have to win on Sunday or they might go down. It's called an "opinion". You can't just flip a switch this time of year. This is when you find out who the contenders and pretenders are.

Should I spam the board with thread after thread or bring it up in everyone elses thread until it happens?

You call giving an unbiased opinion that you deem negative as spamming the board? I've started very few threads here and I've been pretty much right on the money with everyone that has to do with this team. :toast:

Should I take pleasure out of the Cowboys failures until they do what I want? Because that is what it looks like you and your ilk do.

That's just you continuing to read something completely bogus into what I'm saying. You're obviously not very sharp if you honestly believe I take pleasure out of the Cowboys failures. It's laughable how some of you turn someone's frustration into them not being fans. I guess fans who boo at games when they're team isn't performing well aren't really fans? You only think it looks like I take pleasure because you're not very sharp.

And you do it hiding behind the curtain of being a "realist".

I would rather hide behind the curtain of being a "realist" then hiding behind a pair rose colored glasses with the wrong prescription. :toast:

 

[sonnyboy]

I didn't have a problem with you until you made this stupid statement. For the record, as a starter Romo has had 4 games where he threw 3 INTs out of 51 starts.

What is more of a "trademark" with him is games where he has thrown 3 TDs or more which he has done 17 times.

You have officially become a troll.

OUCH! That left a mark!

 

[DallasEast]

Well if my information has long been assimilated by everyone I'm erroneously attempting to enlighten then how about you delivering a list. :toast:

Your claim is baseless unless you can provide a name of the posters you believe didn't already know what you're sprewing out now.

You just said it was my tone of doom which "they" are making me aware of so you already know who I'm attempting to enlighten. :doh:

Are you on drugs?

 

[DallasEast]

yeah we needed another thread started by someone saying this is like all previous Decembers

Exactly. This guy believes he has experienced some sort of epiphany that there are people on this board who do not already know what he's trying to say.

Yeah. Crazy. That's what I said too.

 

[The Emperor]

I hate being negative but this looks like the same exact team we saw last season. So much for TO being the problem with this team it's losing big games every December that creates all the frustration and bad chemistry. Just like after the loss to Pittsburgh last December another big stir up occurred by a member of the media as a result of yet another big December game loss. If the Cowboys don't beat the Chargers on Sunday they'll be staggering in full meltdown mode and may end up missing the playoffs all together. They're tied with Philly for the division lead and are only one game ahead of the Giants who'll they'll lose a tie breaker to if they both end the season with the same record. The Cowboys have the same record as GB who they gave new life to a few weeks ago when the Packers appeared to be on life support. GB will also win a tie breaker over us if we end the season with the same record.

We just gave the Giants new life when we could have pretty much buried them and they now have a very good shot to make the playoffs as at least a wildcard team. With New Orleans coming up the Cowboys will be in serious trouble if they lose on Sunday. Even a terminal homer would have a tough time feeling optimistic about the Cowboys beating the high powered Saints in the Super Dome while in the middle of another Dec swoon. Let's face it the Cowboys are staring at a MAJOR collapse that could make last years Dec meltdown pale in comparison if they don't step up Sunday and come away with a win. If they can't win an IMPORTANT game at home with all they have riding on the next 4 weeks this team is no better than the gutless team we saw go 1-3 last Dec in route to a 44-6 drubbing in the season finale at Philly.

All right. Great. Yeah. Who are you trying to impress with this opinion? It's so passe' to be down on this team. I mean, "Who Let the Dogs Out" in 2000 doesn't even compare to how passe' posts like this are.

 

[poke]

You call giving an unbiased opinion that you deem negative as spamming the board? I've started very few threads here and I've been pretty much right on the money with everyone that has to do with this team. :toast: :toast:

so here you think Romo has regressed
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164442

here you call Spears invisible
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162757

here you ask hope or no hope ( ironically starting your post with " I hate to negative" ) (your quote not my fault you left the word 'BE' out)
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162733

this a great one, self labeled reality check and another Romo slam with a quick swipe at Spencer as a bonus
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164299

so you see we have a reason for thinking you tend to be a pessimist, nothing wrong with that, different strokes for different folks and all.

you being a realist and all can surely see why we think of you that way.

heres some deep thinking, if being a fan means you LIKE a team, if a person DISLIKES most or all things about said team, can that person be considered a fan ? is there a benchmark, say you have to like 51% of the things ?

just askin

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I didn't read the OP's comments but I agree with the title premise.

The Cowboys could very well miss the Playoffs this year. The Schedule is extremely brutal.

Doesn't mean they don't have a chance too but it is going to be tough to get those two last victories.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

People in General need to stop taking themselves too seriously, I guess it comes with the territory for some but mental evolution isn't totally avoidable.

 

[CF74]

I wish I did. Unfortunately there are a few on here that I really believe would rather we not make the playoffs just so they can thump their chests about being right.

This post is a good example of being "Conveniently Optimistic." You sound like the Holier than thou group more than anything else.

Fans who have either lost hope or are pessimistic are still fans, what ever the case may be, who are you to say they hope we lose? Can you read minds?

 

[KJJ]

Your claim is baseless unless you can provide a name of the posters you believe didn't already know what you're sprewing out now.

You're the one making claims. You claimed "they" are trying to make me aware of my tone. Dude they're acting like I've given up on this team and one actually thinks I get pleasure from the Cowboys struggles. You don't even know who "they" are or what they're saying. When you have fans who think others aren't fans because they show some frustration with the team and have a high standard for excellence that's their stupidity. Some homers here think the playoffs are a guarantee. I don't think some here ever think the worst can happen even though this team falls flat on its face every December.

Are you on drugs?

If you can't understand what I'm talking about then I should be asking you that question. :toast:

 

[CF74]

Why would you root for a team that you don't expect will win?

As a self admitted homer I have issues with this question. Are you saying you won't root for the Boys if you are convinced they will lose???

It's called being honest with yourself. Just because a fan lost confidence in his teams ability to get it together and win doesn't mean he's not a fan anymore...

 

[KJJ]

All right. Great. Yeah. Who are you trying to impress with this opinion? It's so passe' to be down on this team. I mean, "Who Let the Dogs Out" in 2000 doesn't even compare to how passe' posts like this are.

So you don't agree the Cowboys will be in serious trouble if they lose to the Chargers on Sunday? I take it you feel confident about the team bouncing back from a 2 game skid against the Saints, Commanders and Eagles? It's going to take 2 wins in the final 3 games for the Cowboys to make the playoffs if they lose on Sunday.

 

[Bach]

So just for argument sake if they win 3 out of the next 4 or all 4 or whatever next year are we going in saying the trend is that we'll win in December or does everyone have to be "well maybe we'll win 3 out of 4 but I'm going to predict 1-3 just to be safe so I don't get my hopes up again."?

Do you know what a trend is? It's doing the same thing repeatedly. Now if we win 3 out of 4, then that would break the recent trend. But, by definition, we'd have to do it more than just one year to be able to consider it a trend, right?

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And how long do we have to win games in December before people can have faith that we will, instead of sitting around waiting for the worst to happen because some trend tells us we have to, before believing in our team in December is no longer a homer thing but is ok again?

You can believe now if you want. The thing is, it's obvious that some one here can't differientiate between hope and a prediction. What I think and what I hope can be two different things. In the SB years I hoped and thought we could go win a Super Bowl and hoped and thought we could win 12+games a season. Now I hope we can win more than we lose down the stretch and make the playoffs and win in the playoffs, but if someone asks my prediction, like last week, I said I thought we'd go 3-2 or 2-3, leaning towards 2-3. Of course come each game, I'm going to be hoping e win, but realistically, with the schedule and our recent trend of folding late in the season, I don't think that'll be the case.

I'm just curious cause I need to know how long it'll be before believing in your team, and having faith and hope in them, isn't considered some sort of awful thing that makes us meanie heads for daring to do so.

If you want to believe we'll go 4-0 the rest of the way or go 16-0 every season, then go for it. But don't blame some of us if we use our heads instead of hearts when discussing the eam and asked to make predictions.

 

[KJJ]

so here you think Romo has regressed
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164442

here you call Spears invisible
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162757

here you ask hope or no hope ( ironically starting your post with " I hate to negative" ) (your quote not my fault you left the word 'BE' out)
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162733

this a great one, self labeled reality check and another Romo slam with a quick swipe at Spencer as a bonus
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164299

so you see we have a reason for thinking you tend to be a pessimist, nothing wrong with that, different strokes for different folks and all.

you being a realist and all can surely see why we think of you that way.

heres some deep thinking, if being a fan means you LIKE a team, if a person DISLIKES most or all things about said team, can that person be considered a fan ? is there a benchmark, say you have to like 51% of the things ?

just askin

Dude Romo had regressed earlier in the season where were you? Go back and see how many disagreed with my opinion at the time I started that thread. :toast:

As for Spears he has been invisible and he won't be resigned when his contract is up. :toast:

As for the other swipe I took at Romo when he makes boneheaded mistakes I'm going to take a swipe. I thought he played great last Sunday and commended him for it. As for the swipe at Spencer he hadn't done anything at the time that's why I took a swipe. :doh: Spencer still has a ways to go. As for me always saying "I hate to be negative" I do that for the benefit of the sensitive homers so they can click off the thread and not get depressed. I've never denied being a pessimist when it comes to the Cowboys. I have no confidence in this team and once again we saw why last week. All this team does is break our hearts every year and embarrass its fans with DREADFUL late season performances when the season is on the line. The Cowboys always get hot around mid season hit their peak and start to fade every December when the meat of our schedule arrives. It's been like that for 13 years that's why they haven't won a playoff game since 96. There's alot of fans who dislike things about the current Cowboys. This is not the team most of us grew up with and admired. Disliking things about your team doesn't mean you're not a fan. I stick with this team through thick and thin but that doesn't mean I won't complain. I remember the great teams of Landry and Jimmy Johnson. My standard for this team is high and I simply don't see the coaching and character of our great teams of the past.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Do you know what a trend is? It's doing the same thing repeatedly. Now if we win 3 out of 4, then that would break the recent trend. But, by definition, we'd have to do it more than just one year to be able to consider it a trend, right?

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You can believe now if you want. The thing is, it's obvious that some one here can't differientiate between hope and a prediction. What I think and what I hope can be two different things. In the SB years I hoped and thought we could go win a Super Bowl and hoped and thought we could win 12+games a season. Now I hope we can win more than we lose down the stretch and make the playoffs and win in the playoffs, but if someone asks my prediction, like last week, I said I thought we'd go 3-2 or 2-3, leaning towards 2-3. Of course come each game, I'm going to be hoping e win, but realistically, with the schedule and our recent trend of folding late in the season, I don't think that'll be the case.




If you want to believe we'll go 4-0 the rest of the way or go 16-0 every season, then go for it. But don't blame some of us if we use our heads instead of hearts when discussing the eam and asked to make predictions.

Fair enough. I'm just saying it far to often on these boards gets attacked by so called realists simply because people choose to believe in the team rather than just accept that 'gosh darn it. This trend says we'll suck right now so I'll just sit back and accept that we're going to suck cause, darn it, that makes me real and keeps me from getting my hopes dashed."

I believe each year the last few years that we've had a real good shot to be a good to great team and that we'll win more than we lose, we'll do well at the end, and we'll win some playoff games.

Obviously that hasn't worked out for me but it hasn't kept me from believing it the very next year. I don't get the attitude of just accepting that it will likely be bad because of recent years and just accepting that and going with it.

Somehow you get people though who just immediately label you foolish, stupid, silly, blind, and all that for *GASP* daring to not just go with the flow and accept that things will be this certain way cause history and trends say it will.

Yeah I know you'll be sitting there rooting for them to win but like you said you'll be rooting for them to win, and hoping they do, while at the same time accepting that they probably won't and they'll just fail down the stretch again cause thats how it's been.

I prefer not to dwell on the negatives of the past and just accept that it's probably how it's going to be again. It just seems like such a defeatest attitude to me to sit around accepting that things will likely go bad for us again instead of just openly rooting for the team this year based on this year and nothing more.

*Shrugs* Maybe it makes me a bad person, I don't know, but I don't care.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Personally, I think if we beat San Diego this weekend, we probably make the playoffs. However, if we lose to San Diego, I think our season is over. That's how important I think this game is. I think if we go 0-2 to start "December" this team will basically meltdown. I think their psyche is that fragile. The bottom line is the entire season is on the line for this organization this weekend. Let's see if they have what it takes.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I know I am wasting my keystrokes but I'll say it again anyway: December games are NO MORE IMPORTANT than games in September, October, or November.

Just ask Wayne Fontes.

For those of you too young to remember the former Lions coach they would have a terrible record all season until the final month or so then win a bunch of games but just miss the playoffs. Guess what, they went 5-0 to end the season but STILL missed the playoffs. It didn't matter that they won in December because they had lost their first 5 games in Sept/Oct.

Does it really matter when you win games or does it only matter that you win enough games?

In 2007 we were 11-1 heading into December. We had already clinched home field in the NFC by beating the 10-1 Packers. We went 2-2 in December mostly because we were not going all out and only scored 6 points against both the Eagles & Commanders in the two losses.

The 5 and 7 game winning streaks earlier in the season were what got us into the playoffs and we lost a close game, that we should have won, to the eventual SB champs.

Had we lost every game in December we STILL would have won the division and made the playoffs with an 11-5 record. Winning 11 games from Sept-Nov is what won us the division, December was irrelevant for us that season.

This myth about December games is ridiculous. You simply need to win enough games in order to make the playoffs, it really doesn't matter when you win them.

I know I just wasted my time but I felt I had to try anyway. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

While what you say is true, the problem is that most teams normally don't win enough games in Sept.-Nov. to wrap up a playoff spot. It almost always comes down to those last four games to get it done. That's when the pressure is on. You're right that a win in Sept. is just as good as a win in Dec., but unless you win all or most all of the earlier season games like we did in 07, the games in Dec. are magnified.