Don't be surprised if the Cowboys end up missing the playoffs

BraveHeartFan;3134069 said:
I wish I did. Unfortunately there are a few on here that I really believe would rather we not make the playoffs just so they can thump their chests about being right.

I'm sure there's some who believe in aliens and unicorns too. I don't put faith stock into what they think either.
 
BraveHeartFan;3134069 said:
I wish I did. Unfortunately there are a few on here that I really believe would rather we not make the playoffs just so they can thump their chests about being right.

Yup ....
 
KJJ;3134082 said:
Most fans Cowboy fans here are obviously biased towards the team and refuse to look at trends or anything that happened in the past.

Hmmmm

That looks awful familiar to the thought process (or lack of) of the guy who is defending him.
 
BraveHeartFan;3134008 said:
Just for the record for you, and many others who make this mistake. If you have to point out and tell people you're a realist then you're not one.

A realist shouldn't feel the need to point it out in order to feel better about their opinion.

I for one am NOT a "realist", I am a fan who always hopes, and is always optimistic about every game. I go into every season expecting to make the playoffs and win it all! It's been that way for me since 1963.

Those who call themselves "realists" tend to use that as an excuse to be negative and to keep from being disappointed. Personally, I don't get it. Why would you root for a team that you don't expect will win?

Yes there are things I don't like about this team. There is an owner I wish would go away, there are players & coaches I haven't liked, play-calling I don't understand, stupid mistakes that drive me crazy, stupid players that drive me even crazier, blown leads that make me impossible to be around for several hours but after a couple of days I am ready for the next game and optimistic that we will win it.

So no, I don't consider myself a "realist", just a Cowboys fanatic! :starspin

If that makes me a "homer" then bring me a donut. :D
 
Doomsday101;3134083 said:
Some claim to be.

Well, the Cowboys do have one of the largest fanbases in the world. I'd say a lot claim to be.
 
KJJ;3134082 said:
Most fans Cowboy fans here are obviously biased towards the team and refuse to look at trends or anything that happened in the past. It's obvious this team has a December monkey on it's back that's just about the size of King Kong. There's a disturbing pattern with this team that's been going on for quite a few Decembers and it's apparently gotten into the head of the players. Their soft head coach doesn't want to address it only to say this is a different team even though it has basically the same players and is being led by the same uninspiring lump. We're currently 8-4 just like we were last year at this time and we just opened Dec with another big loss in a game we should have won. What else is new!

It looks exactly like a repeat of last year. The Giants were ripe for a beating having staggered into last weeks game and Cowboys once again folded under pressure even though Romo had a career day. How they could lose a game with the numbers he put up and no turnovers is beyond me. It's almost like the Cowboys look for ways to lose in Dec. If the Cowboys are a championship caliber team or even a team that has a chance of ending this winless playoff drought they'll win on Sunday. If they don't win the writing is on the wall for this season and it's going to spell out the same thing it did last year.

And that is what concerns me when I look at the Cowboys...because if they can't win when Romo has a career day, what's going to happen when he has even an average day or a trademark 3 INT day?

I can relate though as a Chargers fan...we had a similar stigma when Schotty was here in that we couldn't win in the playoffs, and that followed him his entire career before SD just like Phillips with DEN/BUF/DAL. And after going 14-2 and losing at home to the Patriots most Chargers fans felt we were cursed and accepted the sitution. But then just one year later with Turner we came within a few plays of winning the AFC Championship against the undefeated Pats in Foxboro.

So I guess I'll I can say is be patient and hope this year things changes if you do get back to the playoffs....
 
Bach;3134086 said:
I'm sure there's some who believe in aliens and unicorns too. I don't put faith stock into what they think either.

Well the growing trend is that more people believe in aliens and unicorns than those who believe you are a Cowboy fan.

Sorry ..... its math.
 
THUMPER;3134100 said:
I for one am NOT a "realist", I am a fan who always hopes, and is always optimistic about every game. I go into every season expecting to make the playoffs and win it all! It's been that way for me since 1963.

Those who call themselves "realists" tend to use that as an excuse to be negative and to keep from being disappointed. Personally, I don't get it. Why would you root for a team that you don't expect will win?

Yes there are things I don't like about this team. There is an owner I wish would go away, there are players & coaches I haven't liked, play-calling I don't understand, stupid mistakes that drive me crazy, stupid players that drive me even crazier, blown leads that make me impossible to be around for several hours but after a couple of days I am ready for the next game and optimistic that we will win it.

So no, I don't consider myself a "realist", just a Cowboys fanatic! :starspin


Word! I feel the exact same way. Helluva post dude! :bow:
 
zrinkill;3134093 said:
Hmmmm

That looks awful familiar to the thought process (or lack of) of the guy who is defending him.

Yeah, it's really illogical to look at trends and tendencies. It makes much more sense to just act like things will magically change and predict everything will be all peaches and cream all the time.
 
Charged Up;3134103 said:
And that is what concerns me when I look at the Cowboys...because if they can't win when Romo has a career day, what's going to happen when he has even an average day or a trademark 3 INT day?

I can relate though as a Chargers fan...we had a similar stigma when Schotty was here in that we couldn't win in the playoffs, and that followed him his entire career before SD just like Phillips with DEN/BUF/DAL. And after going 14-2 and losing at home to the Patriots most Chargers fans felt we were cursed and accepted the sitution. But then just one year later with Turner we came within a few plays of winning the AFC Championship against the undefeated Pats in Foxboro.

So I guess I'll I can say is be patient and hope this year things changes if you do get back to the playoffs....


It will start to turn around this week after Dallas beats the Chargers and goes to 9-4 with 3 games remaining.
 
zrinkill;3134048 said:
Case in point KJJ.

The only victims here are the blind homers who can't come to grips with reality. Answer me this Mr Optimistic if the Cowboys lose on Sunday what are their odds of going to NO riding a 2 game losing streak and beating the Saints there? It's probably going to take at least 10 wins to make the playoffs which means the Cowboys would have to win their final 2 games to qualify IF they drop their next 2 games. My point is if they don't win Sunday this team is going to be in serious trouble and any fan who would deny that has about as much sense as the uninspiring dope who's coaching this team.
 
THUMPER;3134100 said:
I for one am NOT a "realist", I am a fan who always hopes, and is always optimistic about every game. I go into every season expecting to make the playoffs and win it all! It's been that way for me since 1963.

Those who call themselves "realists" tend to use that as an excuse to be negative and to keep from being disappointed. Personally, I don't get it. Why would you root for a team that you don't expect will win?

Yes there are things I don't like about this team. There is an owner I wish would go away, there are players & coaches I haven't liked, play-calling I don't understand, stupid mistakes that drive me crazy, stupid players that drive me even crazier, blown leads that make me impossible to be around for several hours but after a couple of days I am ready for the next game and optimistic that we will win it.

So no, I don't consider myself a "realist", just a Cowboys fanatic! :starspin

If that makes me a "homer" then bring me a donut. :D

LOL. I like the owning up to it. It's all good.

Charged Up;3134103 said:
And that is what concerns me when I look at the Cowboys...because if they can't win when Romo has a career day, what's going to happen when he has even an average day or a trademark 3 INT day?
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Trademark 3 INT day? Are you attempting to claim that Romo has these so often that it's as regular an occurance as his 3 TD days?
 
KJJ;3134117 said:
The only victims here are the blind homers who can't come to grips with reality. Answer me this Mr Optimistic if the Cowboys lose on Sunday what are their odds of going to NO riding a 2 game losing streak and beating the Saints there? It's probably going to take at least 10 wins to make the playoffs which means the Cowboys would have to win their final 2 games to qualify IF they drop their next 2 games. My point is if they don't win Sunday this team is going to be in serious trouble and any fan who would deny that has about as much sense as the uninspiring dope who's coaching this team.

And if they win Sunday then what? Then the 'homers' got lucky? Or something along those lines?

Bach;3134107 said:
Yeah, it's really illogical to look at trends and tendencies. It makes much more sense to just act like things will magically change and predict everything will be all peaches and cream all the time.

Ummm...don't all trends just magically change? I mean, for example, when Peyton Manning finally won a playoff game what exactly, leading up to that, told you they'd break the trend that year? What trend was going on, prior to that, that made you think they'd finally win a playoff game?

When the Giants started out 6-2 and then stumbled down the stretch in 06 and 07 what trend, exactly, was going on that made you think that they'd actually go on that run in 07 and win it all? Obviously since trends don't just get broken out of thin air there must have been something, something concrete, you can point to that says "Hey this says they're going to win the Superbowl this year."

What trends, exactly, from last year told you that the Saints would be 12-0 at this point this year?

I'm just curious cause if you can pin point all those things, and point out when they're going to happen, then you must be one very rich son of a gun cause you'd be making a killing beating the odds in Vegas.
 
KJJ;3134117 said:
The only victims here are the blind homers who can't come to grips with reality. Answer me this Mr Optimistic if the Cowboys lose on Sunday what are their odds of going to NO riding a 2 game losing streak and beating the Saints there? It's probably going to take at least 10 wins to make the playoffs which means the Cowboys would have to win their final 2 games to qualify IF they drop their next 2 games. My point is if they don't win Sunday this team is going to be in serious trouble and any fan who would deny that has about as much sense as the uninspiring dope who's coaching this team.
I would appreciate you pointing out the posters (e.g. names) here on this site who do not understand the ramifications of winning or losing the final four games of the season.

1. That will be a very short finite list.

2. You are not enlightening the masses since "they" understand everything about the team's current situation as well as you do.
 
Charged Up;3134103 said:
And that is what concerns me when I look at the Cowboys...because if they can't win when Romo has a career day, what's going to happen when he has even an average day or a trademark 3 INT day?

I didn't have a problem with you until you made this stupid statement. For the record, as a starter Romo has had 4 games where he threw 3 INTs out of 51 starts.

What is more of a "trademark" with him is games where he has thrown 3 TDs or more which he has done 17 times.

You have officially become a troll.
 
Chocolate Lab;3133825 said:
Wow. Now that's a refreshing post.

I feel the same way... Only you might be more positive than I am. :)

But I do think if we fall short, it will be because we simply weren't good enough. At least we rid the locker room of the losers and tried to do it the right way this time.

I'm with you. This team has played hard and they're not a bunch of jerks. They're a good group to root for - even if they frustrate the hell out of us at times. How can Cowboys fans not be pulling for Ware, Witten, Romo, Ratliff, Brooking, Choice, Jenkins etc. These guys play with heart and I've enjoyed watching them win 8 of 12 games thus far.

They bounced back from a 2-2 start and are in a good position entering these final 4 games. If they split, they almost definitely make the playoffs. If they win 3 of 4 they probably win the division. All 4 losses have been tight games. Overall, they've been good at home. They have a good chance Sunday and if they win that one I think they win 2 of the final 3.

We all fear another dissapointing December, but this team has seemed different ever since spring practices. We've seen them go into Philly and close out a game. We've seen improvement in Romo and his ability to protect the ball. We've seen a togetherness we hadn't seen before. I know we've seen some of the old warts resurface as well, but these guys are going to battle 'til the end.

I can't wait 'til Sunday. This week has been WAY too long.
 
THUMPER;3134100 said:
I for one am NOT a "realist", I am a fan who always hopes, and is always optimistic about every game. I go into every season expecting to make the playoffs and win it all! It's been that way for me since 1963.

So no, I don't consider myself a "realist", just a Cowboys fanatic! :starspin

If that makes me a "homer" then bring me a donut. :D

I'm think most on here are fanatics about the Cowboys. But, does that mean when asked for a prediction you only have to predict pie-in-the-sky rosey scenarios?

And being a "realist" doesn't mean always being negative. In the 90's I expected a Super Bowl every year. Why? Because that was a legitimate prospect then.

2000-2002, predicting 10+ wins or a playoff experience wasn't rational, although many still did predict those rosey scenarios.

Now, having had 11 losing final-5-game-stretches in the last 13 years. It is definitely a real trend. If you ask me what I hope, I hope we go 4-1 or 5-0 to finish the year. But if asked what I expect, then I'd say I'm leaning towards 2-3. Although once the game begins I'm hoping every step of the way we win each one.

Some fans can logically post about the team and it's expectations while apparently others think in order to be a fan they have to paint a rosy picture no matter the actual circumstances. But when it gets down to it, both are just as much fans and want the team to win.
 
el_chevo;3134141 said:
Hos, WHERE IS MY AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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zrinkill;3134093 said:
Hmmmm

That looks awful familiar to the thought process (or lack of) of the guy who is defending him.

All you none realists do is read nonsense into every negative comment made by Cowboys fans. A Cowboy fan speaks the truth and gives an honest unbiased opinion and you read that into meaning they're not a fan. :laugh2: There's some Cowboys fans who are getting frustrated with this team and if you can't see the trend they've been following the past few years you might try taking off those rose colored glasses and see what you've been missing if you dare to. :eek:
 
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