Doug Free - LT

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CATCH17;3310700 said:
But if Dallas had faith in Free to man down the LT spot then they would tell Flo goodbye in this uncapped year. After all if Free is the eventual guy than Flo is nothing but a progress stopper at age 35 right?

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Why cut Flo now if you don't have to with the draft still weeks away?

Are people really trying to make the argument that the Cowboys not cutting Adams means that we don't like Free? Really?
 

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If Free is ready, then let him start over Adams like Spencer did over Ellis last year. If Jerry, Wade and Houck are confident about Free at LT, then Adams should be released in June IMO.

We'll see...
 

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Silverstar;3313513 said:
If Free is ready, then let him start over Adams like Spencer did over Ellis last year. If Jerry, Wade and Houck are confident about Free at LT, then Adams should be released in June.

We'll see...

Why not just keep him? Ellis whines publicly and asked for his release for years. I see no reason to just hand the LT job to anyone. Adams has been one of the best LT over the past decade.

Only way I even think about releasing him is if he asks to be released. There is absolutely no need otherwise.
 

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I believe Adams is schedued to make about 7 million this year.

If Jerry think that's fair market value for Adams at this stage in his career...ok then. However, Adams has been on the decline the last 2 years as well.
 

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Silverstar;3313522 said:
I believe Adams is schedued to make about 7 million this year.

If Jerry think that's fair market value for Adams at this stage in his career...ok then. However, Adams has been on the decline the last 2 years as well.

Whats the cap this year?
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;3313516 said:
Why not just keep him? Ellis whines publicly and asked for his release for years. I see no reason to just hand the LT job to anyone. Adams has been one of the best LT over the past decade.

Only way I even think about releasing him is if he asks to be released. There is absolutely no need otherwise.

I agree. I like Free but if he is going to take over LT then he should have to battle it out with Flo. Making a move like this and just hoping in my view is too much of a risk. I would think in an uncapped year like this it is worth it.
 

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Doomsday101;3313532 said:
I agree. I like Free but if he is going to take over LT then he should have to battle it out with Flo. Making a move like this and just hoping in my view is too much of a risk. I would think in an uncapped year like this it is worth it.

Risk...but I thought Free was DA MAN!

He only had 1 sack last year dude!!!


/sarcasm off/
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;3313499 said:
Why cut Flo now if you don't have to with the draft still weeks away?

Are people really trying to make the argument that the Cowboys not cutting Adams means that we don't like Free? Really?

I don't understand the want to cut Flo. Just have Free beat him out. You're protected either way.
 

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Silverstar;3313535 said:
Ok, just pay the man Jerry!

What difference does it make? If it makes you feel bad that a billionaire is willing to pay the man then get over it.
 

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Silverstar;3313553 said:
Risk...but I thought Free was DA MAN!

He only had 1 sack last year dude!!!


/sarcasm off/

He is DA MAN but DA MAN need to win the battle at LT in my opinion. It is not as if we are stacked depth wise at OT
 

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Bob Sacamano;3313555 said:
I don't understand the want to cut Flo. Just have Free beat him out. You're protected either way.

Correct. Cutting Flo would be dumb. Competition brings out the best in any player. Free is the shiz tho. ;)
 

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theogt;3311210 said:
Strong enough for the right side, but not for the left?

That's odd.


Most of your premier pass rushers come off that side, odd you don't know this...
 

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CowboyFan74;3313881 said:
Most of your premier pass rushers come off that side, odd you don't know this...

Premier pass rushers usually equates to speed off the edge. More running towards the strong side usually equates to RTs being stronger than LTs. Crazy that you don't know this.


And for people who want to cut Flo, what's the difference in the cap hit this year if Free starts/ Flo sits versus Flo starts/ Free sits. And you get the insurance. We'll be crazy to cut Flo now, without a replacement, even though I believe Free will be starting.

Free starts and gets injured, then Flo starts (we're good). Flo starts and gets injured, Free starts (we're good). Free starts and Columbo gets injured, Free moves to RT and Flo starts (we're good). We cut Flo, Free starts and gets injured....................
 

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newnationcb;3313888 said:
Free starts and gets injured, then Flo starts (we're good). Flo starts and gets injured, Free starts (we're good). Free starts and Columbo gets injured, Free moves to RT and Flo starts (we're good). We cut Flo, Free starts and gets injured....................

This.
 

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newnationcb;3313888 said:
Premier pass rushers usually equates to speed off the edge. More running towards the strong side usually equates to RTs being stronger than LTs. Crazy that you don't know this.


And for people who want to cut Flo, what's the difference in the cap hit this year if Free starts/ Flo sits versus Flo starts/ Free sits. And you get the insurance. We'll be crazy to cut Flo now, without a replacement, even though I believe Free will be starting.

Free starts and gets injured, then Flo starts (we're good). Flo starts and gets injured, Free starts (we're good). Free starts and Columbo gets injured, Free moves to RT and Flo starts (we're good). We cut Flo, Free starts and gets injured....................


Meh... Your best of the best play LT and they are typically stronger...
 

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CowboyFan74;3313892 said:
Meh... Your best of the best play LT and they are typically stronger...

uh no. as was said the better faster speed rushers come off the left edge. they are also smaller. A 240 lbs edge rusher is by no means uncommon coming off the weakside.

Its quickness that is more important than size/strength.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;3313924 said:
uh no. as was said the better faster speed rushers come off the left edge. they are also smaller. A 240 lbs edge rusher is by no means uncommon coming off the weakside.

Its quickness that is more important than size/strength.

LT>RT
far more important
better talent
typically stronger
makes more $$$
franchise type player
typically drafted very early in 1st round
this argument is getting...boring.......
 
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